What is Meant By "It Didn't Used to Be This Way..."
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nancy324
Cathlete
If someone needs to ask Cathe questions about her personal life (its hard for me to imagine why), at the very least do it on the Ask Cathe boards so she can address them. I think it is completely inappropriate and unacceptable to discuss such topics in the Open Discussion forum, where Cathe can't address them. If you ever see anything like that here, just don't respond to it at all. People will get the message that such topics are unwelcome here if no one responds. If you respond, even to tell the person that such posts are inappropriate, you just bring attention to it and some people are encouraged by that. I've been here a long time, and I've seen that the cold shoulder works best.
Other than that, I love a good debate, or hearing different opinions, even on "touchy" subjects, as long as everyone is respectful.
I agree about missing the old smilies!
LauraMax
Cathlete
I second all of that. I especially miss the clown face.
I think this forum has changed quite a bit. Personally I think it started happening when STS was first announced & Cathe's appeal & audience broadened exponentially. It used to be a really cozy little forum w/a limited number of members & it really felt like a little extended family. Now it seems similar to VF (from what I've heard anyway, I think I've been on VF maybe 10 times my entire life).
In any case, I do appreciate some of the newer members & what they contribute, a lively debate can be fun when it doesn't get nasty, & you'll have to drag me kicking & screaming away from this website.
Tamrahan
Cathlete
It used to be fun to come here. I've made some lifetime friends on this forum. I keep in touch with them elsewhere, but I miss the ease of checking in with them on and off all day here. I'm not sure when it stopped being so much fun. Maybe when folks started asking all kinds of personal medical questions? This is a fitness forum, not WebMD. Maybe when folks started thinking their opinions were the only ones that mattered? There are alot of threads that are nothing but opinion. No one seems to get to "know" anyone anymore. There's been a whole lot take and not much give. I think it all started when the old smilies were lost.
And does anyone use the preview button? If you reread your post and it sounds mean, offensive, or downright stupid, DON"T POST IT!!!
This is the open discussion of a fitness forum. Wouldn't medical issues tie in with fitness? How do the threads starting out with a
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Wouldn't getting to 'know' someone involve talking about many topics including fitness and beyond such as medical, religion, politics, hobbies (other than fitness), dogs, children, music, movies etc?
a few thoughts:
Admittedly I don't know alot about politics, religion (even my own), and medical
so those actually are the topics I find very interesting even though I contribute very little, if at all, I still like to read and maybe I'll learn something.
There are some forums that don't allow any of the above including topics as well as talk of nutrition/supplements are not allowed either and well those forums are little boring IMHO and since they don't have a lot of members I guess many others would agree.
The topics that don't interest me I don't go in to. Simple as that.
And lastly, hopefully my "tone" of these thoughts are NOT coming across as inflammatory because that is Not my intent.
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Miss Lee
Cathlete
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! hands down, this is my FAVORITE comment in this entire thread!! Good one, Tami!!!
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I think all the new smilies should be replaced by dancing banana guys.
Tamrahan
Cathlete
It used to be fun to come here. I've made some lifetime friends on this forum. I keep in touch with them elsewhere, but I miss the ease of checking in with them on and off all day here. I'm not sure when it stopped being so much fun. Maybe when folks started asking all kinds of personal medical questions? This is a fitness forum, not WebMD. Maybe when folks started thinking their opinions were the only ones that mattered? There are alot of threads that are nothing but opinion. No one seems to get to "know" anyone anymore. There's been a whole lot take and not much give. I think it all started when the old smilies were lost.
And does anyone use the preview button? If you reread your post and it sounds mean, offensive, or downright stupid, DON"T POST IT!!!
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! hands down, this is my FAVORITE comment in this entire thread!! Good one, Tami!!!
Miss Lee, you made MY day. Thank you. It feels good to have a pat on the back, I needed that today.
BTW I 'ran' this morning day 2 of week 1 of c25k. How's your running going?
Miss Lee
Cathlete
Oh, you're quite welcome! Your comment really made me laugh -- I just loved it!
I completed my first week of the C25K Saturday morning! I can't believe it!! I've never run before! My legs always feel terrible right after a run -- so much so that I always think I have shin splints -- but then I wake up the next morning, and luckily, the pain is gone! I now have to decide if I want to stick with the coached group runs, or if I just want to train on my own. I prefer the Cool Runnings plan to the one our group is using, which entails more walking.
Okay, you may now return to your regularly scheduled thread topic. What was it again?
buffettgirl
Cathlete
lahotstuff
New Member
Just an opinion to offer, but it seems to me that some of the members here are extremely stuck in the way things "used to be" or the way that "things always were". Like life, things change. People change, growth occurs. With more forum readers/members and posters, more opinions are thrown out and sometimes the pot may be stirred more than they "used to be".
As someone who has been a reader on these forums for years, it always interests me when the more "seasoned" forum members take it upon themselves to snuff out anything that they do not DEEM worthy or interesting or relevant.
It reminds me of high school all over again. You have your "cool" crowd and everyone is trying to fit in with them. This cool crowd can sometimes make the rest of the bunch feel inferior or irrelevant. That is what I seem to see lately.
Also, we are all adults here. Who is one to tell another to make sure you edit your posts? Or, make sure you use the most proper grammer and punctuation? Are those that may not have excelled in English class that much more inferior? I just think that sometimes the tone in which these posts are written can be extremely...for lack of a better term...condescending.
Cathe is an amazing instructor, has produced an equally amazing product and yes...by offering a forum where anyone can post it will likely turn into a debate at times. But that doesn't mean that we cannot have healthy debates without the seasoned crowd constantly throwing it up in the "newer" members faces how great it used to be. If you ask me or many others here, that may be precisely why newbies are afraid to even post in the first place.
Hence the "lurkers" thread just recently. As someone new to the forum, you are excited and want to contribute. But when you are always being bombarded with blasts from the past and how it used to be...maybe people feel that they may not live up to the popular click in high school. I just wish that some of the members (people over 10K posts perhaps?) would be a litte more lenient or accepting of the newer wave of forum members.
Times...they are-a-changin'...
As someone who has been a reader on these forums for years, it always interests me when the more "seasoned" forum members take it upon themselves to snuff out anything that they do not DEEM worthy or interesting or relevant.
It reminds me of high school all over again. You have your "cool" crowd and everyone is trying to fit in with them. This cool crowd can sometimes make the rest of the bunch feel inferior or irrelevant. That is what I seem to see lately.
Also, we are all adults here. Who is one to tell another to make sure you edit your posts? Or, make sure you use the most proper grammer and punctuation? Are those that may not have excelled in English class that much more inferior? I just think that sometimes the tone in which these posts are written can be extremely...for lack of a better term...condescending.
Cathe is an amazing instructor, has produced an equally amazing product and yes...by offering a forum where anyone can post it will likely turn into a debate at times. But that doesn't mean that we cannot have healthy debates without the seasoned crowd constantly throwing it up in the "newer" members faces how great it used to be. If you ask me or many others here, that may be precisely why newbies are afraid to even post in the first place.
Hence the "lurkers" thread just recently. As someone new to the forum, you are excited and want to contribute. But when you are always being bombarded with blasts from the past and how it used to be...maybe people feel that they may not live up to the popular click in high school. I just wish that some of the members (people over 10K posts perhaps?) would be a litte more lenient or accepting of the newer wave of forum members.
Times...they are-a-changin'...
lahotstuff
New Member
"""I think this forum has changed quite a bit. Personally I think it started happening when STS was first announced & Cathe's appeal & audience broadened exponentially. It used to be a really cozy little forum w/a limited number of members & it really felt like a little extended family"""
And by the way...this particular sentence seems to be the most insulting of all of them. To say that it used to be "cozy" with limited members...that is just a little close minded. Forums grow and attract more people...it is the way it is. World Wide Web....it is open to an exponentially large group of people. That is the goal right? Of any business...to grow and reach as many people possible, to sell their product to as many possible? Particularly in these tough times.
I don't know...as a new member (well NOT new...but new to posting)...this is a bit disheartening to read from one of the seasoned posters.
And by the way...this particular sentence seems to be the most insulting of all of them. To say that it used to be "cozy" with limited members...that is just a little close minded. Forums grow and attract more people...it is the way it is. World Wide Web....it is open to an exponentially large group of people. That is the goal right? Of any business...to grow and reach as many people possible, to sell their product to as many possible? Particularly in these tough times.
I don't know...as a new member (well NOT new...but new to posting)...this is a bit disheartening to read from one of the seasoned posters.
Liann
Cathlete
This is just my observation, but a large part of the "lively discussions" as of late have not really been between new posters and old posters. Many of them have been between old (for lack of a better word) posters and a lot of times it's the same people going at it. This isn't a "you" against "us" thing. Just a discussion about whether the tone of the forum has changed. Carrie was just asking a question, not complaining about the forum or new members. I'm sorry if the following posts made it sound that way, but I really don't think that is the current problem.
Please don't read this as harsh, because I really don't mean it that way, but it's probably not the best tactic to come into a forum where people have been members for years and have your first post inform everyone that times are a changing. Makes it sound like you're looking for a fight. Not your intention I'm sure, but it just shows how it's hard to convey your true meaning in the written form sometimes. It's easy when people are already defensive to read more into a post than is intended and you might get a reaction or two to that. I think some of the people who have really gone at it on this forum would actually get along fine in person. The whole communicating over a forum thing leaves a lot to be desired!
Please don't read this as harsh, because I really don't mean it that way, but it's probably not the best tactic to come into a forum where people have been members for years and have your first post inform everyone that times are a changing. Makes it sound like you're looking for a fight. Not your intention I'm sure, but it just shows how it's hard to convey your true meaning in the written form sometimes. It's easy when people are already defensive to read more into a post than is intended and you might get a reaction or two to that. I think some of the people who have really gone at it on this forum would actually get along fine in person. The whole communicating over a forum thing leaves a lot to be desired!
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carres1973
Cathlete
I do remember the lively discussions from this past presidential election. I can't imagine what it was like during and after the 2000 election! I appreciate everyone's honest opinions to my question. How about we all start a Cardio Coach or kettlebell thread just to really stir things up?!
Carrie
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Miss Lee
Cathlete
Yeah!! LMAO!!!!!I do remember the lively discussions from this past presidential election. I can't imagine what it was like during and after the 2000 election! I appreciate everyone's honest opinions to my question. How about we all start a Cardio Coach or kettlebell thread just to really stir things up
Carrie
Vee
Cathlete
Welcome to Cathenation. I look forward to your posts.
I hope this doesnt seem like a scold - I dont intend to scold at all. I dont think any insult was intended. Laura did not say that change was bad - just that she felt nostalgia for the days when this was cozy the way I interpreted it. Just as change is natural, so is a bit of nostaligia. She was responding to the OP who asked the oldies of the forum why they felt it was different earlier. Having "known" Laura on this forum for a considerable time, I know that she meant no attack at the newcomers.
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morningstar
Cathlete
I'm not sure if I would be considered a newbie or not- I have a lot of posts, but I've only been around this year. Obviously, I've never felt that I could not offer an opinion or thought- indeed, quite the opposite. However, I do get the sense, in my egotistical way, that some of this is directed at me- that people feel that I have been too controversial, stirring the pot, etc. I don't really get that. No one is forced to read anything I write. No one is forced to comment on it. If my posts bring up confused, complicated or even negative thoughts within the reader, does that mean that I did something wrong by posting an interesting article or sharing my thoughts on a subject? Most of the time, I post an article and don't offer my opinion right away, because I am truly interested in other people's thoughts on it and don't want to bias or discourage anyone from sharing their thoughts. Often others' opinions on difficult topics help me form my own.
The world is a very complicated, ever changing and often terrible place; discussing issues of concern helps us to understand how we feel about what's going on and gives us the perspective of other people that we may never meet. In my small little world, I don't meet a lot of hardcore conservatives, or strongly religious people, or even people with families. Hearing from people that I wouldn't talk to usually about difficult issues really expands my horizons, even if I don't agree with them.
The world is a very complicated, ever changing and often terrible place; discussing issues of concern helps us to understand how we feel about what's going on and gives us the perspective of other people that we may never meet. In my small little world, I don't meet a lot of hardcore conservatives, or strongly religious people, or even people with families. Hearing from people that I wouldn't talk to usually about difficult issues really expands my horizons, even if I don't agree with them.