What happened to Snidey Spidey?
- Thread starter fit_fairy
- Start date
SnideySpidey
Active Member
I guess I should be thankful for the ladies fighting over me...ha ha! I wonder if Jerry has that issue. 
idream
Cathlete
Good on Tamrahan for sticking to her guns!
As someone who watches posts on this board for entertainment this thread hasn't disappointed, (save for all that garbage about wine and pizza).
Snidey I wonder why these ladies would want to fight over you?
It seems totally ridiculous to me. I think YOU are quite capable of defending yourself - are you not, Snidey?
As someone who watches posts on this board for entertainment this thread hasn't disappointed, (save for all that garbage about wine and pizza).
Snidey I wonder why these ladies would want to fight over you?
It seems totally ridiculous to me. I think YOU are quite capable of defending yourself - are you not, Snidey?
Last edited:
SnideySpidey
Active Member
Yes, I am but I really don't feel the need to defend myself. I just wanted to post and join in the discussion here and there but there are some pretty rotten people on these boards and clearly it was mistake for ever trying to get in the mix.
hiitdogs
Cathlete
No one is fighting over him. I just find it curious that some people are so concerned about newbies not feeling welcome or might be afraid to post and then turn around to dump on another member for reasons unknown to me. I would have said the same thing if another new member had been called a troll without any reason.
I find YOUR comments ridiculous, Andrea! What are you trying to say???
Just ignore it Snidey, it has nothing to do with you. Some people always try to stir the pot and feel the need to dump their negativity on other people to distract from their own misery.
I find YOUR comments ridiculous, Andrea! What are you trying to say???
Just ignore it Snidey, it has nothing to do with you. Some people always try to stir the pot and feel the need to dump their negativity on other people to distract from their own misery.
idream
Cathlete
Carola, I am not trying to say anything, other than this is all a bit ridiculous. This whole, to troll or not to troll, split personality, post a lot, doesn't post alot and so it goes on and on. Ridiculous! Its been taken waaay to far (and unnecessarily so).
Snidey himself thought you guys were fighting over him, I agreed with him. (You disagree.)
Further, I am not miserable, quite happy. I don't have any negativity to share.
Snidey himself thought you guys were fighting over him, I agreed with him. (You disagree.)
Further, I am not miserable, quite happy.
I don't have any negativity to share.
hiitdogs
Cathlete
Carola, I am not trying to say anything, other than this is all a bit ridiculous. This whole, to troll or not to troll, split personality, post a lot, doesn't post alot and so it goes on and on. Ridiculous! Its been taken waaay to far (and unnecessarily so).
Snidey himself thought you guys were fighting over him, I agreed with him. (You disagree.)
Further, I am not miserable, quite happy.
And you jumped right in the middle of it to drag it on, Andrea.
Yes, I disagree with Snidey that we are fighting over him. I am just annoyed by the hypocrisy on this board and I really wonder why Snidey was the target of some mean spirited comments. I guess I have my own gutt feeling about that.
I don't know, Andrea, I wasn't talking about your negativity, but hey, if YOU think the shoe fits .....
idream
Cathlete
BUT Carola - YOU ASKED ME WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY!
I answered you.
Yeah, I jumped in, to say, this thread was entertaining.
To say publicly, good on Tami for sticking to her guns.
And to question why the ladies were fighting over Snidey.
And Carola, negative shoes don't fit me and please refrain from turning this into a personal attack towards me, thats not necessary.
I answered you.
Yeah, I jumped in, to say, this thread was entertaining.
To say publicly, good on Tami for sticking to her guns.
And to question why the ladies were fighting over Snidey.
And Carola, negative shoes don't fit me and please refrain from turning this into a personal attack towards me, thats not necessary.
hiitdogs
Cathlete
I am not personally attacking you, just as you don't need to attack Spidey and other forum members you seem to have a personal vendetta against. Good for you that you are supporting Tami's rudeness.
I already answered you that I am not fighting over Spidey, I am annoyed by the hypocrisy of some people on this board. And I wonder what their reasons are to treat some people more equal than others. I don't get it!
But, hey I am glad this thread was entertaining to you. No reason to complain then, eh?
I already answered you that I am not fighting over Spidey, I am annoyed by the hypocrisy of some people on this board. And I wonder what their reasons are to treat some people more equal than others. I don't get it!
But, hey I am glad this thread was entertaining to you. No reason to complain then, eh?
Last edited:
Elle_p
Cathlete
SnideySpidey,
I just wanted to say that you have handled this whole thing with a lot of class. I think it was really nice that Catherine started this thread to give you a shout out. Who would have guessed it would turn out like this????
This thread turned out to be more interesting then whatever Willis was talkin' about. I hope you stick around.
Elle
idream
Cathlete
Carola - "Supporting Tamis rudeness?" Tami was rude? I am muttering and shaking my head. Carola, re read (really read) the posts and then get back to me about who was rude. And perhaps what might be wiser is if we (you and I) don't discuss who was rude - theres no further need.
The posts speak for themselves.
Further to that, and just let me clarify, clearly clarify, I said, "Good on Tamrahan for sticking to her guns" Read the sentence, don't add your judgements, don't interpret that to mean anything else BUT She is sticking to her guns -thats it. I've made no comment on where I stand re Tamrahans opinions.
Why did I feel the need to do that? Because Carola, this thread had turned into (what has become typical) on these boards lately.
I'm sorry but I've missed the part where I have a personal vendetta against anyone. You might need to be more specific on that.
The posts speak for themselves.
Further to that, and just let me clarify, clearly clarify, I said, "Good on Tamrahan for sticking to her guns" Read the sentence, don't add your judgements, don't interpret that to mean anything else BUT She is sticking to her guns -thats it. I've made no comment on where I stand re Tamrahans opinions.
Why did I feel the need to do that? Because Carola, this thread had turned into (what has become typical) on these boards lately.
I'm sorry but I've missed the part where I have a personal vendetta against anyone. You might need to be more specific on that.
hiitdogs
Cathlete
Hmmmm, maybe YOU need to re read the posts. Tami kept insisting that Spidey is not a sincere poster or a troll, and when Liann said, "I thought he was actually pretty funny. I doubt he will post again though after some of the above comments", Tami's response was "Good because I'm going to trust my first instincts and they say troll and not a legit poster".
It's "good" that he doesn't come back? It's good that he reads the mean things that were said about him? I went back and checked all of his posts, he has done NOTHING mean or controversial and Tami talks badly about him without having any specifics, other than her "gutt feeling" that he is a troll and says he is not welcome on this board. Who gives Tami the right to make those kinds of decisions??? I am sorry, but if that is not rude I don't know what is.
Did she get some rude comments in return? She sure did! As per your instructions I did re read the posts, maybe you should do the same.
What is typical on these boards lately is the hypocrisy and holier than thou attitude of some people on this board and some people seem to be hell bent to dump on specific people no matter what they say.
Well if I misread the "Good on Tamrahan for sticking to her guns" comment, maybe you can explain it to me English-as-a-second-language speaker what you mean by sticking to her guns.
I guess these are the "usual suspects" that you have issues with. Let's not go into naming names, okay!?
It's "good" that he doesn't come back? It's good that he reads the mean things that were said about him? I went back and checked all of his posts, he has done NOTHING mean or controversial and Tami talks badly about him without having any specifics, other than her "gutt feeling" that he is a troll and says he is not welcome on this board. Who gives Tami the right to make those kinds of decisions??? I am sorry, but if that is not rude I don't know what is.
Did she get some rude comments in return? She sure did! As per your instructions I did re read the posts, maybe you should do the same.
What is typical on these boards lately is the hypocrisy and holier than thou attitude of some people on this board and some people seem to be hell bent to dump on specific people no matter what they say.
Well if I misread the "Good on Tamrahan for sticking to her guns" comment, maybe you can explain it to me English-as-a-second-language speaker what you mean by sticking to her guns.
I guess these are the "usual suspects" that you have issues with. Let's not go into naming names, okay!?
Last edited:
idream
Cathlete
Carola it appears that you and I actually agree.
But first let me reply to your justification in the rude replies. Theres an age old saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right." I actually thought that maybe Tami, didn't really believe her words. She wrote them out of anger, frustration, I don't know, but they are the "type" of words I have seen posted around here a bit lately (learned behaviour?) I felt some the replies (written to her)were written with a lot more anger and feeling. (I could be wrong there there)
I agree totally with you ......."hyprocrisy and holier than thou attitude of some people on this board and some people seem hell bent to dump on specific people no matter what they say." 100% Agree. BUT and heres the BUT, that comment goes across the board TO ALL FORUM USERS. To ALL OF US!
From what I've read lately, theres a division amongst "newbies" and "oldies" (no offence to anyone just a term) Can you look at why that is? Because quite frankly, both sides are stuck in gridlock. The newbies feel that they are being bullied (I'd have to agree with some of them there) Then the "oldies" (no offence) all jump in on top of the newbies. I havn't referred to any topic/discussions this is a generalisation. An obserevation to a lot of topics.
Carola, you always appear to be very inteliigent so now, take a step back have a good long long look a whats going on here in these boards. Theres a distinct "us and them." This thread is typical. Someone said something, people either agreed or disagreed and said so, those who agreed left one standing for what they believed (misguided? perhaps, SS does not fit into being a troll) however, now look at where we are. It also seems to me that its unnecessary (I may be wrong with this next comment and I apologise in advance) BUT some, in particular some "oldies" take great delight in jumping in, and squashing a newbies comment. Then more and more oldies jump in too. You'd have to agree with that surely? When there really is no need. Then the thread goes into free fall.
(Hey, where are those who jump into threads yelling die thread die?)
I thought about PM this to you, but I've chosen to bite the bullet and state this publicly once and for all. You won't be hearing, "I'm never coming back here again!" coming from my lips, thats too melodramatic for me. However, I believe, I can see both sides of this, I've been around for a while now, and I can see it happening. It obviously is happening as a lot of us are talking about it, but no-ones actually doing anything to rectify the situation.
Finally, I have always been brave enough to stand up and admit when I am wrong. It wouldn't hurt a few to do the same. Or we can all take the "I'm the king of the world and I am never wrong" attitude and keep going the way we are.
But first let me reply to your justification in the rude replies. Theres an age old saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right." I actually thought that maybe Tami, didn't really believe her words. She wrote them out of anger, frustration, I don't know, but they are the "type" of words I have seen posted around here a bit lately (learned behaviour?) I felt some the replies (written to her)were written with a lot more anger and feeling. (I could be wrong there there)
I agree totally with you ......."hyprocrisy and holier than thou attitude of some people on this board and some people seem hell bent to dump on specific people no matter what they say." 100% Agree. BUT and heres the BUT, that comment goes across the board TO ALL FORUM USERS. To ALL OF US!
From what I've read lately, theres a division amongst "newbies" and "oldies" (no offence to anyone just a term) Can you look at why that is? Because quite frankly, both sides are stuck in gridlock. The newbies feel that they are being bullied (I'd have to agree with some of them there) Then the "oldies" (no offence) all jump in on top of the newbies. I havn't referred to any topic/discussions this is a generalisation. An obserevation to a lot of topics.
Carola, you always appear to be very inteliigent so now, take a step back have a good long long look a whats going on here in these boards. Theres a distinct "us and them." This thread is typical. Someone said something, people either agreed or disagreed and said so, those who agreed left one standing for what they believed (misguided? perhaps, SS does not fit into being a troll) however, now look at where we are. It also seems to me that its unnecessary (I may be wrong with this next comment and I apologise in advance) BUT some, in particular some "oldies" take great delight in jumping in, and squashing a newbies comment. Then more and more oldies jump in too. You'd have to agree with that surely? When there really is no need. Then the thread goes into free fall.
(Hey, where are those who jump into threads yelling die thread die?)
I thought about PM this to you, but I've chosen to bite the bullet and state this publicly once and for all. You won't be hearing, "I'm never coming back here again!" coming from my lips, thats too melodramatic for me. However, I believe, I can see both sides of this, I've been around for a while now, and I can see it happening. It obviously is happening as a lot of us are talking about it, but no-ones actually doing anything to rectify the situation.
Finally, I have always been brave enough to stand up and admit when I am wrong. It wouldn't hurt a few to do the same. Or we can all take the "I'm the king of the world and I am never wrong" attitude and keep going the way we are.
JennieR
Cathlete
hiitdogs
Cathlete
Andrea, I think we agree on several things but may view it from a different perspective.
I don't have a problem with people having a different opinion but I do expect that they don't just hurl insults at someone without backing it up with facts. I think this thread was just an exchange of opinions until Tami said "Good because I trust my first instincts and say he is a troll ......". I know I was annoyed by her statement. I thought her accusations were baseless, judgemental and uncalled for. Was I tempted to say something rude in response? I sure was! But I decided to stay with the facts. No one went after her until Tami took this whole troll thing to a totally different level.
Do I condone rudeness in response to Tami's rudeness? No I don't!However, I do understand the frustration that triggered some of the not so nice responses to her! I have been around this board for almost 10 years now, I know that the "oldtimers" who responded don't have a mean bone in their body, in fact, they would give you the shirt off their backs.
However, over the past several months many of us oldtimers have been dumped on, been told what we can and can't say, post or discuss, how we should say things and what jokes we can or can't tell. Now some of us oldies have known each other for a long time, some of us have a wicked sense of humor. I realize that a "newbie" does not have that long background with some of us but to come in and expect that we all change our conversations according to THEIR liking is not fair either.
I agree with you that it has become somewhat of a "us against them" situation on both sides and that is very sad. I can't speak for any of the others, I haven't discussed it with them, this is solely my opinion. I do feel that I am not judged as a human or a fellow Catheite anymore but based on my political, religious or social views, anything I say is viewed through that lense and people who don't disavow my views, like Spidey, are targeted.
I have received a bunch of PMs over the past several weeks of people who say that they are afraid to post anything supportive of me because fear of repercussions if they posted in public. How freakin' sad is THAT!!!
You may think that some "newbies" are being bullied but in all reality a lot of us "oldies" are being bullied as well, a lot of regular posters have left the board and those of us who are still here, have started to push back, maybe sometimes going a little overboard.
Just look at Shelley's post (I hope she won't be mad at me for using her as an example) about the kettlebells. Shelley has a wicked sense of humor, she meant no harm AT ALL, she stated unequivocal that she wasn't mad, she was just joking, she enjoys the kettlebell posts and loved what one of the newbie posters had shared about her results. Despite of that people went on and on and on and read something sinister into Shelley's post...... WTF!!!?????
I remember that in the beginning when I started posting, I was scared of Shelley (sorry, Shellers, I was) but I just watched her and within a few weeks I found her to be an exceptional human being and she just cracked me up. But I didn't join this board expecting that everything revolves around me and people need to change the way they talk, joke, think or act according to my liking.
I don't think anyone expects the newbies to bend over backwards to accomodate the oldies. However, I totally disagree with your notion that some oldies take a great delight in jumping in and squashing a newbie, Andrea. I think almost everyone welcomes the new ideas and a fresh outlook that "newbies" bring in but I felt that Tami was like a pitbull in her baseless attack towards Spidey, showing a lot of intolerance. I do have an issue with that and it doesn't matter if it is a newbie or an oldie.
That being said, I wish we could find a way to get out of this "gridlock" between oldies and newbies. But I am too tired to come up with any glorious ideas, it is 1:30 am and I NEED to get some sleep.
I don't have a problem with people having a different opinion but I do expect that they don't just hurl insults at someone without backing it up with facts. I think this thread was just an exchange of opinions until Tami said "Good because I trust my first instincts and say he is a troll ......". I know I was annoyed by her statement. I thought her accusations were baseless, judgemental and uncalled for. Was I tempted to say something rude in response? I sure was! But I decided to stay with the facts. No one went after her until Tami took this whole troll thing to a totally different level.
Do I condone rudeness in response to Tami's rudeness? No I don't!However, I do understand the frustration that triggered some of the not so nice responses to her! I have been around this board for almost 10 years now, I know that the "oldtimers" who responded don't have a mean bone in their body, in fact, they would give you the shirt off their backs.
However, over the past several months many of us oldtimers have been dumped on, been told what we can and can't say, post or discuss, how we should say things and what jokes we can or can't tell. Now some of us oldies have known each other for a long time, some of us have a wicked sense of humor. I realize that a "newbie" does not have that long background with some of us but to come in and expect that we all change our conversations according to THEIR liking is not fair either.
I agree with you that it has become somewhat of a "us against them" situation on both sides and that is very sad. I can't speak for any of the others, I haven't discussed it with them, this is solely my opinion. I do feel that I am not judged as a human or a fellow Catheite anymore but based on my political, religious or social views, anything I say is viewed through that lense and people who don't disavow my views, like Spidey, are targeted.
I have received a bunch of PMs over the past several weeks of people who say that they are afraid to post anything supportive of me because fear of repercussions if they posted in public. How freakin' sad is THAT!!!
You may think that some "newbies" are being bullied but in all reality a lot of us "oldies" are being bullied as well, a lot of regular posters have left the board and those of us who are still here, have started to push back, maybe sometimes going a little overboard.
Just look at Shelley's post (I hope she won't be mad at me for using her as an example) about the kettlebells. Shelley has a wicked sense of humor, she meant no harm AT ALL, she stated unequivocal that she wasn't mad, she was just joking, she enjoys the kettlebell posts and loved what one of the newbie posters had shared about her results. Despite of that people went on and on and on and read something sinister into Shelley's post...... WTF!!!?????
I remember that in the beginning when I started posting, I was scared of Shelley (sorry, Shellers, I was
) but I just watched her and within a few weeks I found her to be an exceptional human being and she just cracked me up. But I didn't join this board expecting that everything revolves around me and people need to change the way they talk, joke, think or act according to my liking. I don't think anyone expects the newbies to bend over backwards to accomodate the oldies. However, I totally disagree with your notion that some oldies take a great delight in jumping in and squashing a newbie, Andrea. I think almost everyone welcomes the new ideas and a fresh outlook that "newbies" bring in but I felt that Tami was like a pitbull in her baseless attack towards Spidey, showing a lot of intolerance. I do have an issue with that and it doesn't matter if it is a newbie or an oldie.
That being said, I wish we could find a way to get out of this "gridlock" between oldies and newbies. But I am too tired to come up with any glorious ideas, it is 1:30 am and I NEED to get some sleep.
Last edited:
idream
Cathlete
Carola, I know people are scared to post on threads, a lot have been for some time. I think thats sad too. It makes me mad that there are people who intimidate others like that.
I know Shelly can be scary. So can some others. But I think that there is a very very strong bond between a lot of forum members. Those members hardly ever disagree with each other, but they "appear" unitedly to (is there such a word as unitedly?) disagree and take offence to posts as a group.
What is also sad is that the newbies don't just "happen to come into a forum and start up trouble" They learn it. They watch, see how others behave and mimic the behaviour of others. (I know, I've done it myself and retreated very quickly and regretted it! But I was copying others)
See, it appears that no matter what anyone else has to say, if a member from the older group, take offence, and says so, then, theres usually three or four closley following in behind, as back up. Perhaps not intentional, but thats the way it works. So, the circle starts again.
I didn't read Tamis comments as offensive, I don't think it was her intention to offend, perhaps thoughtless? Why wasn't that just ignored? Why was a response needed? Do you see what I am trying to get at? Theres a stalemate here. No-one is ever going to agree, but to entice arguments isn't going to solve the problems. Why does the group, need to back each other up? Why do certain persons, keep coming in stirring?Why can't they have their say and leave it? If SS felt the need, he could've told Tami to pull her head in.
We need to work together as a group to stamp out the bitchy behaviour. Disagree by all means but don't get personal, and theres no need for the "one in all in" approach, because everyone here knows who is in alliance with who. I know, Carola, what to expect today.
So, Lets call it quits on this topic, but work together at getting EVERYONE to PULL THEIR HEADS IN AND STOP THE BITCHIN!
I know Shelly can be scary. So can some others. But I think that there is a very very strong bond between a lot of forum members. Those members hardly ever disagree with each other, but they "appear" unitedly to (is there such a word as unitedly?) disagree and take offence to posts as a group.
What is also sad is that the newbies don't just "happen to come into a forum and start up trouble" They learn it. They watch, see how others behave and mimic the behaviour of others. (I know, I've done it myself and retreated very quickly and regretted it! But I was copying others)
See, it appears that no matter what anyone else has to say, if a member from the older group, take offence, and says so, then, theres usually three or four closley following in behind, as back up. Perhaps not intentional, but thats the way it works. So, the circle starts again.
I didn't read Tamis comments as offensive, I don't think it was her intention to offend, perhaps thoughtless? Why wasn't that just ignored? Why was a response needed? Do you see what I am trying to get at? Theres a stalemate here. No-one is ever going to agree, but to entice arguments isn't going to solve the problems. Why does the group, need to back each other up? Why do certain persons, keep coming in stirring?Why can't they have their say and leave it? If SS felt the need, he could've told Tami to pull her head in.
We need to work together as a group to stamp out the bitchy behaviour. Disagree by all means but don't get personal, and theres no need for the "one in all in" approach, because everyone here knows who is in alliance with who. I know, Carola, what to expect today.
So, Lets call it quits on this topic, but work together at getting EVERYONE to PULL THEIR HEADS IN AND STOP THE BITCHIN!
Last edited:
Worknprogress
Cathlete
I haven't been on the boards much the last 2 weeks - sick kids, Homecoming, etc. and have just finished reading this entire thread.
Certain things stuck out in my mind:
Andrea - kudos for speaking your thoughts in a calm but direct way. It shows people can discuss a difference in opinions and not get nasty.
Carolla - for the record, I have enjoyed your political posts. I find you to be very knowledgeable and it's a shame if you have been judged on your political views.
Catherine - you post a lot and are always so light-hearted and fun. I think everyone knows that your posts yesterday were out of character for you. It was nice that you apologized but hey, we all get frustrated sometimes!
Also, I agree with the newbie/oldie gridlock when it comes to disagreements. Fortunately for me, I have gotten great responses and support so far on this forum when I have posted.
Certain things stuck out in my mind:
Andrea - kudos for speaking your thoughts in a calm but direct way. It shows people can discuss a difference in opinions and not get nasty.
Carolla - for the record, I have enjoyed your political posts. I find you to be very knowledgeable and it's a shame if you have been judged on your political views.
Catherine - you post a lot and are always so light-hearted and fun. I think everyone knows that your posts yesterday were out of character for you. It was nice that you apologized but hey, we all get frustrated sometimes!
Also, I agree with the newbie/oldie gridlock when it comes to disagreements. Fortunately for me, I have gotten great responses and support so far on this forum when I have posted.
Liann
Cathlete
Andrea - I'm a little lost on your posts. And I'm not attacking here or anything!, just trying to figure out what your saying. From what I'm getting, you congratulated Tami on sticking to her guns but then in your next post complained about the split personality and troll comments that Tami was actually defending - you called them "Ridiculous"? I'm also confused because it was actually a bunch of "old timers" defending a "newbie" so I'm lost on how the argument of how we are so down on newbies is being brought up? Someone help me here, because I'm not understanding any of this. And I don't think I posted anything mean at all. I actually requested we be nice. If I came onto a thread and saw people debating my mental sanity (see the split personality comment) or my legitimacy (see the not a true Cathelete comment), I would probably cry. How can I be the ONLY person who has a problem with that? My first response was very calm and the response I get back is "Good because I'm going to trust my first instincts and they say troll and not a legit poster"??? You think it is good to stick by statements like that? I think it's hateful and I would hope someone would stick up for me or at least point out as I did that those statements could be hurtful.