LMR Elevated 2

[disey]

I have a question or am confused
I am 69 years old and have worked out my entire life and still do on a daily basis. I was so excited when I heard of the new series Lift Move Restore etc and Elevated as I "thought" or rather assumed that this was Functional Training for the Actively Aging Lifestyle.
However, I have tried all the 3 that have posted on demand and Cathe uses heavier weights than I ever used in all my younger years. A chest fly using 30-35 lbs in each hand--pullovers using 25 lbs in each hand--Somehow that doesn't seem realistic for aging woman or rather what I would expect for late 60-70 years of age lifting that kind of weight.....I thought the series would address elderly women who want to remain active a feasible alternative but I feel totally intimidated when you say if 30-35 lbs in each hand feels light go get heavier weights---I feel I am a total failure and have not gotten strong enough to be able to achieve any of this.
Please explain where I am misinterpreting this series and how I can reassure myself that I am strong and I can do this...I literally work out every day with strict scheduling of weightlifting, cardio , meditation, mobility and for my age I am told by many that i look great and am very defined. However, this is not the picture I see of myself when I shake my head at the "suggested" weight selections in an AGING LIFESTYLE????
I also do a variety of different platforms and instructors from Peloton.... Cycle, full body, upper body, hiit cardio, Shaun T Dig Deeper series and of course CATHE LIVE AND ON DEMAND.
And believe me--the series are great but I am trying to understand where I am going wrong with the misinterpretation of all this----I want to continue to be able to be active and mobile but not to have to do a pullover using 50 lb dumbbells...I am just about 5 feet tall and weight like 105 and struggle with horrific back pain--those weights are just not "my friends" although I try my best to lift heavier than I ever did before
Please forgive this long winded message--I just wanted to ask a simple question but I am so passionate with my fitness I get frustrated.
Any advice or suggestion or rather CLARIFICATION as to where I am going wrong would be helpful. And just to say lift what you can--that doesn't work because when I am seeing everyone able to use those weights--especially since I am a strong person, it just frustrates me.

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[vivbc]

The main series will use more moderate weights. The bonus strength workouts that have been released are aimed at those who asked for heavy weights when Cathe asked what "we" wanted last winter. Regardless of what she is lifting, you should lift what is right for you. So again, the bonus strength workouts are not specifically aimed at the aging lifestyle series. That part of the release is still to come. It will use heavier weights than the original LMR series, but even then, you don't have to lift what Cathe is lifting. So if you want more of LRM, it is yet to be released. You can use the bonus strength workouts using weights you find appropriate, or don't use them. They are not functional training. They are traditional strength training, and it sounds like that isn't what you want.

Any advice or suggestion or rather CLARIFICATION as to where I am going wrong would be helpful.

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[FitSaxe]

Regardless of what she is lifting, you should lift what is right for you. So again, the bonus strength workouts are not specifically aimed at the aging lifestyle series.

Cathe has quoted on the description of her upcoming release that the series is for anyone.

Regardless of the age, we all have different nutritional and physiological needs, motivations, conditions, medical predispositions, abilities etc...... Thus quote highlighted above.

 

[Braille]

When we think of "functional", we should be thinking of those skills/abilities that tend to decrease with age (balance, mobility/range of motion, flexibility, coordination, etc.) as well as HOW we use our bodies in daily life. LMR and LMR 2 both focus on those aspects of "functional". In your life... do you need to lift heavy? If not... there is not a need for you to lift heavy in your workouts. Progressive overload is what studies show helps with bone density, and that can be achieved with several methods. There are others that can explain this better than I, but basically... your workout is YOURS, and you need to do what your body tells you it needs. I, too, am small (with a tiny frame). What someone else can lift can kill my back or really mess up my carpe tunel wrists. I enjoy heavy lifting, because it is satisfying to me and generally takes less time than lighter weights/high reps, but MY "heavy" isn't usually what Cathe, her crew, or a lot of others on the forum lift. There is NO shame in that. The way I make sure I'm pushing myself (without overdoing it) is by asking myself... did I meet my goals, did I try my best, and do I feel stronger than I did a month ago (overall) or a week ago (in specific areas). That strength can be endurance (ex. I don't have to set my end of a couch down 4 times when someone is helping me carry it out to the curb) or actual weight (ex. getting my disabled adult son, who has not gained/lost weight into the tub is now less challenging) or even kind of what I think of as "power" (can lift something I've lifted before, but I lift it quicker and easier, without a "test" lift first, because I know I have it in me). The poundage of your weight is NOT a measure of your success. I think where you're going wrong is kind of what I was doing at the beginning of this year. I had to start over on my fitness journey after a 2 year lapse. I was comparing myself to where I "used to be"... you're comparing yourself with others - different mistake... but same result... frustrated and that can lead to lack of motivation. So... the cure is to ask yourself WHY you work out and if YOU are accomplishing YOUR goals. Those lift heavy... that's IS one of their goals. Those that are just starting to workout... their goal is likely to just start somewhere and establish a routine that makes exercise a regular part of their lives. Mine... my goal is bone density and the ability to care for my son and myself for as long as possible safely. I want to feel comfortable and healthy in my own body. My goals have changed a lot over the decades. So, evaluate your goals and lift the way and how much you need to accomplish your goals. If you ever find your arms shaking, or find yourself lifting a lb heavier than the week before... you're likely doing it right. I'd also like to second what vivbc mentioned... I believe the bonuses were to give everybody choices... While there are some functional movements... I don't believe the bonuses were intended as part of LMR2.

 

[FitSaxe]

When we think of "functional", we should be thinking of those skills/abilities that tend to decrease with age (balance, mobility/range of motion, flexibility, coordination, etc.) as well as HOW we use our bodies in daily life. LMR and LMR 2 both focus on those aspects of "functional". In your life... do you need to lift heavy? If not... there is not a need for you to lift heavy in your workouts. Progressive overload is what studies show helps with bone density, and that can be achieved with several methods. There are others that can explain this better than I, but basically... your workout is YOURS, and you need to do what your body tells you it needs. I, too, am small (with a tiny frame). What someone else can lift can kill my back or really mess up my carpe tunel wrists. I enjoy heavy lifting, because it is satisfying to me and generally takes less time than lighter weights/high reps, but MY "heavy" isn't usually what Cathe, her crew, or a lot of others on the forum lift. There is NO shame in that. The way I make sure I'm pushing myself (without overdoing it) is by asking myself... did I meet my goals, did I try my best, and do I feel stronger than I did a month ago (overall) or a week ago (in specific areas). That strength can be endurance (ex. I don't have to set my end of a couch down 4 times when someone is helping me carry it out to the curb) or actual weight (ex. getting my disabled adult son, who has not gained/lost weight into the tub is now less challenging) or even kind of what I think of as "power" (can lift something I've lifted before, but I lift it quicker and easier, without a "test" lift first, because I know I have it in me). The poundage of your weight is NOT a measure of your success. I think where you're going wrong is kind of what I was doing at the beginning of this year. I had to start over on my fitness journey after a 2 year lapse. I was comparing myself to where I "used to be"... you're comparing yourself with others - different mistake... but same result... frustrated and that can lead to lack of motivation. So... the cure is to ask yourself WHY you work out and if YOU are accomplishing YOUR goals. Those lift heavy... that's IS one of their goals. Those that are just starting to workout... their goal is likely to just start somewhere and establish a routine that makes exercise a regular part of their lives. Mine... my goal is bone density and the ability to care for my son and myself for as long as possible safely. I want to feel comfortable and healthy in my own body. My goals have changed a lot over the decades. So, evaluate your goals and lift the way and how much you need to accomplish your goals. If you ever find your arms shaking, or find yourself lifting a lb heavier than the week before... you're likely doing it right. I'd also like to second what vivbc mentioned... I believe the bonuses were to give everybody choices... While there are some functional movements... I don't believe the bonuses were intended as part of LMR2.

There no doubt, studies prove we can all, regardless of the age, benefit from lifting HEAVY. Benefits are numerous: increasing, keeping bone density, collagen production
Cathe will eventually reply to this "thread" question numerously asked in my opinion.

In the referred free bonuses, yes one of the 4 free downloads we have recently received for purchasing LMR2, She has reminded us all again, regardless of the age, the importance of lifting HEAVY to preserve, keeping muscle mass and to increase bone density. It's all said during the introduction in one of the upper body free bonus. So the free bonus is RELEVANT to everyone. The advice is relevant. It's there to be taken or left!

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[Debinmi]

I'd also like to second what vivbc mentioned... I believe the bonuses were to give everybody choices... While there are some functional movements... I don't believe the bonuses were intended as part of LMR2.

I agree. The bonus downloads were included as an incentive to purchase LMRE during the presale, not as part of the functional training in LMRE. They won't be available to people who purchase the series after the presale (unless you're using On-Demand). And Cathe reminds us all the time to use the weights appropriate for our strength. She's a fitness professional, it's therefore expected she can lift heavier than most of us when doing heavy weight workouts, especially now since she has been training for well over 40 years. She always tells us to use her weight choices as a guide, not an absolute. But she also reminds us to gradually increase our weight choices to get stronger (progressive overload). Depending on the specific workout and the specific exercise, I sometimes lift heavier than Cathe, sometimes the same, sometimes less. Strength, and the specific dumbell choices for "heavy, moderate or light weights" is relative to you.

 

[Nabbe47]

I'd also like to second what vivbc mentioned... I believe the bonuses were to give everybody choices... While there are some functional movements... I don't believe the bonuses were intended as part of LMR2.

What is interesting is that, although the bonuses were not intended as part of the elevated series, they will be included in one of the rotations listed in the coming guide. This means they are a valid and useful option for those who want the functionality with keeping up the strength. You can not, however, lift more than your body manages to do in a safe way! Thanks Cathe!

 

[Debinmi]

What is interesting is that, although the bonuses were not intended as part of the elevated series, they will be included in one of the rotations listed in the coming guide. This means they are a valid and useful option for those who want the functionality with keeping up the strength. You can not, however, lift more than your body manages to do in a safe way! Thanks Cathe!

Absolutely. Functional weight training and heavy weight training are not mutually exclusive. Many trainers combine the two. Like you, I'm looking forward to seeing how Cathe combines these with her other series and offerings.

 

[FitSaxe]

What i understand about functionality is keeping the strength for as long as possible to be able to be independant. Recently I visited my mother who live abroad and I was sad to witness she could not stand off the couch without some form of assistance. She is young 75 years old This made me think!

Now Squat is literally the move of standing and seating ====> Functionality.

Those free bonuses included to say thank you for waiting have in my opinion boosted the sales (incentive). So those free bonuses are not just incentives, they are relevant to the purpose behind LMR2 conception. In my understanding of functionality those bonuses are part of functionality. Increasing the weight is up to each individual depending to one own ability. In my opinion progressive load is the way to go to gain strength regardless of age.

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[Hazlady]

A chest fly using 30-35 lbs in each hand--pullovers using 25 lbs in each hand

I can't use weights this heavy for these exercises, but after doing STS 1.0 I know how heavy I can go based on the exercise, number of reps, pace, and rest time. That is a great series to work out what you can lift as you work through the different levels from lighter weights, higher reps and short rests, to really heavy weights, fewer reps and longer rests.

Recently I visited my mother who live abroad and I was sad to witness she could not stand off the couch without some form of assistance.

Losing mobility as you get older is scary. There is a lady in my Pilates class who is in her 70s and has mobility issues due to surgery on her back. She was worried that if she fell and her husband was out, she wouldn't be able to get back up again. Our instructor has been training her how to get herself off the floor unassisted using a chair up against a wall. It's been interesting to watch as I didn't know there was a technique for this. At first, she struggled but after a few weeks she has mastered the technique.

 

[Debinmi]

...I can't use weights this heavy for these exercises, but after doing STS 1.0 I know how heavy I can go based on the exercise, number of reps, pace, and rest time. That is a great series to work out what you can lift as you work through the different levels from lighter weights, higher reps and short rests, to really heavy weights, fewer reps and longer rests.

I was thinking about this earlier too. The original STS (1.0) and for me, Xtrain, really helped me to understand the weights I needed for the # of reps and pacing for various types of lifting. I'm always checking my weight log sheets for the number of reps and my past weight used to line up my weights for a workout. I can feel lost without those notes.

 

[FitSaxe]

@Hazlady
Thank you. I will think and see if my mother can have some training.

. That is a great series to work out what you can lift as you work through the different levels from lighter weights, higher reps and short rests, to really heavy weights, fewer reps and longer rests.

STS 1.0 is great. It made me realise how far my body is able to safely lift.
I could not agree more with what you have quoted about it.

 

[Irolnnyl]

I have a question or am confused
I am 69 years old and have worked out my entire life and still do on a daily basis. I was so excited when I heard of the new series Lift Move Restore etc and Elevated as I "thought" or rather assumed that this was Functional Training for the Actively Aging

Lifestyle.
However, I have tried all the 3 that have posted on demand and Cathe uses heavier weights than I ever used in all my younger years. A chest fly using 30-35 lbs in each hand--pullovers using 25 lbs in each hand--Somehow that doesn't seem realistic for aging woman or rather what I would expect for late 60-70 years of age lifting that kind of weight.....I thought the series would address elderly women who want to remain active a feasible alternative but I feel totally intimidated when you say if 30-35 lbs in each hand feels light go get heavier weights---I feel I am a total failure and have not gotten strong enough to be able to achieve any of this.
Please explain where I am misinterpreting this series and how I can reassure myself that I am strong and I can do this...I literally work out every day with strict scheduling of weightlifting, cardio , meditation, mobility and for my age I am told by many that i look great and am very defined. However, this is not the picture I see of myself when I shake my head at the "suggested" weight selections in an AGING LIFESTYLE????
I also do a variety of different platforms and instructors from Peloton.... Cycle, full body, upper body, hiit cardio, Shaun T Dig Deeper series and of course CATHE LIVE AND ON DEMAND.
And believe me--the series are great but I am trying to understand where I am going wrong with the misinterpretation of all this----I want to continue to be able to be active and mobile but not to have to do a pullover using 50 lb dumbbells...I am just about 5 feet tall and weight like 105 and struggle with horrific back pain--those weights are just not "my friends" although I try my best to lift heavier than I ever did before
Please forgive this long winded message--I just wanted to ask a simple question but I am so passionate with my fitness I get frustrated.
Any advice or suggestion or rather CLARIFICATION as to where I am going wrong would be helpful. And just to say lift what you can--that doesn't work because when I am seeing everyone able to use those weights--especially since I am a strong person, it just frustrates me.

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I have a question or am confused
I am 69 years old and have worked out my entire life and still do on a daily basis. I was so excited when I heard of the new series Lift Move Restore etc and Elevated as I "thought" or rather assumed that this was Functional Training for the Actively Aging Lifestyle.
However, I have tried all the 3 that have posted on demand and Cathe uses heavier weights than I ever used in all my younger years. A chest fly using 30-35 lbs in each hand--pullovers using 25 lbs in each hand--Somehow that doesn't seem realistic for aging woman or rather what I would expect for late 60-70 years of age lifting that kind of weight.....I thought the series would address elderly women who want to remain active a feasible alternative but I feel totally intimidated when you say if 30-35 lbs in each hand feels light go get heavier weights---I feel I am a total failure and have not gotten strong enough to be able to achieve any of this.
Please explain where I am misinterpreting this series and how I can reassure myself that I am strong and I can do this...I literally work out every day with strict scheduling of weightlifting, cardio , meditation, mobility and for my age I am told by many that i look great and am very defined. However, this is not the picture I see of myself when I shake my head at the "suggested" weight selections in an AGING LIFESTYLE????
I also do a variety of different platforms and instructors from Peloton.... Cycle, full body, upper body, hiit cardio, Shaun T Dig Deeper series and of course CATHE LIVE AND ON DEMAND.
And believe me--the series are great but I am trying to understand where I am going wrong with the misinterpretation of all this----I want to continue to be able to be active and mobile but not to have to do a pullover using 50 lb dumbbells...I am just about 5 feet tall and weight like 105 and struggle with horrific back pain--those weights are just not "my friends" although I try my best to lift heavier than I ever did before
Please forgive this long winded message--I just wanted to ask a simple question but I am so passionate with my fitness I get frustrated.
Any advice or suggestion or rather CLARIFICATION as to where I am going wrong would be helpful. And just to say lift what you can--that doesn't work because when I am seeing everyone able to use those weights--especially since I am a strong person, it just frustrates me.

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When the original LMR was released, many of us chimed in, stating that we were alternating that series with STS 2.0. Heavy weights and functional training aren’t mutually exclusive, but they’re different and we need both

I love the bonus downloads, because they let me train heavy (for me) without overkill. This coming week, it’s back to LMR and lighter weights

As we get older, we need so many different components to our training that it probably puts Cathe between a rock and a hard place. Do what works for you