Is ICE for advanced exercisers as well?

Sherri C.

Cathlete
I own most of your video's, so I guess I would consider myself an advanced exerciser. I'm not clear if the new videos will be beneficial for advanced exercisers, and then there will be a modifier that will be show what to do to make the moves intermediate (which is what I am hoping), or if you really only recommend the videos only for intermediate exercisers.
 
Cathe Friedrich It's strictly for the intermediate audience & the modifier will show exercises throughout the workouts for anything that seems like it requires an option to provide a more comfortable way to do an exercise

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There is more on the facebook saying that the Blizzard Blast can be added to the the series 40 min workouts to make them more advance. Please read her facebook for more information on the series. You do not need a facebook account the page is open to all. Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks Cafelattee! I just read through a bunch of the "flash" Q & A Cathe had recently. It reinforces why I love her so much. I've gotten responses to e-mail before (from other instructors) but never an instant response. I really appreciate how available Cathe is considering how busy she is! I also appreciate how she pays attention to what we like and don't like, what we wish for etc in a wkout. She really DOES listen. She's the Queen!
 
Thanks for asking this question Sherri as I was also unclear but didn't want to ask LOL! I think I'll maybe choose a couple weight lifting DVD's from the set in this case but it looks like alot of fans have been waiting for an intermediate set so I'm happy for them!
 
This is my hesitation too, plus the addition of a modifier. I know that's a sticky issue with lots of people, and its probably indicative that it will be an intermediate set of workouts. (And this is my opinion only)...but I'm not a fan of modifiers because I get distracted easily and I'm thinking that person is going to have to be upfront and in view all the time. I'd like to know more about how the modifier is going to be applied. For example, will the modifier tweak the exercise in a similar *intermediate* manner or will it be regulated to a beginner move?

I like the idea of an intermediate set, but not with a modifier so I think I'm going to wait on this.
 
I have to say I found a modifier in Susan Chung's Rapid Fire workouts helpful. I consider my self advanced but I do like to see alternative ways of doing certain moves. The "modifier" in her videos was not distracting at all. There are a few moves of Cathe's that I modify on my own but would like to see how others would modify. I think this is a great advantage to the new series. I also like the fact that just because it's for intermediate, you can still do it if you are advanced. It would be like taking a lighter workout day or week, esp if you are getting over an injury or illness. I'm not preordering only because I have On-Demand and no longer need the dvds, but I'm still very excited about this series.
 
I have to say I found a modifier in Susan Chung's Rapid Fire workouts helpful. I consider my self advanced but I do like to see alternative ways of doing certain moves. The "modifier" in her videos was not distracting at all. There are a few moves of Cathe's that I modify on my own but would like to see how others would modify. I think this is a great advantage to the new series. I also like the fact that just because it's for intermediate, you can still do it if you are advanced. It would be like taking a lighter workout day or week, esp if you are getting over an injury or illness. I'm not preordering only because I have On-Demand and no longer need the dvds, but I'm still very excited about this series.

I am personally working so hard when I exercise that I'm barely even looking at the instructor, unless it's a brand-new workout, let alone any of the background exercisers. (I understand we each have things that can detract from our workout enjoyment, though. For me, it's bad music, poor picture quality, or a lack of camaraderie in background exercisers. Okay, I'm a bit picky!) So a modifier wouldn't usually bother me, unless they're doing something bad like using truly dangerous form...which I can't see happening in a Cathe-led workout! I view modifiers as a positive thing, and not only for the more beginner or intermediate among us. (Which I personally can often revert to, depending upon the day- or on the move being done!) I remember years ago I was reading Stop the Insanity by Susan Powter, and she taught me something very powerful. That every day, for the rest of my exercising life, I will likely have to modify my workout here or there for any number of reasons. A baby keeping one awake all night, work stressing them out, an illness they're might be recovering from, a nagging injury from high school sports acting up...modify for it. It's okay. Because we can modify, we never have to be afraid as exercisers to try new stuff.

Sometimes a modifier can simply be showing a form that's better for their particular body type and/or joint structure. In other words, different body types may be able to do moves in different ways. "Proper' form for each person can really vary based on joint mobility, level of muscle warmth, past experience with an exercise, natural ability with a move, injury history, and so on. As a tall exerciser with wide hips and big feet, I love seeing someone demonstrate a move in a manner that's more in line with how my body approaches it, for example. Tall women may have a different stance or form than a short person. Wide hips can vary what is being done compared to someone with narrow hips. Each person needs to slightly modify hip, knee, and foot position for their own body. Modifying may just mean "different", not necessarily "easier".

Please don't flame me, anyone, because I say the following with the kindest of intentions possible. :) Shouldn't exercise classes and DVDs try on purpose (at least occasionally) to be all-inclusive? To me it seems that is what Cathe is evolving into doing more and more, and I adore that. Her live classes are demonstrative to me of the energy possible when a group of fitness-loving individuals all come together and enjoy a workout, without fear of judgment over their body type or athletic ability. I love seeing the wide range of people there, women of all shapes and sizes and ages. What an awesome improvement over the vibe in so many 1980's gyms: "You'd better already be fit, very skinny, and look good in tight workout gear, or don't bother showing up here at all!" Ick...
 
I have to say I found a modifier in Susan Chung's Rapid Fire workouts helpful. I consider my self advanced but I do like to see alternative ways of doing certain moves. The "modifier" in her videos was not distracting at all. There are a few moves of Cathe's that I modify on my own but would like to see how others would modify. I think this is a great advantage to the new series. I also like the fact that just because it's for intermediate, you can still do it if you are advanced. It would be like taking a lighter workout day or week, esp if you are getting over an injury or illness. I'm not preordering only because I have On-Demand and no longer need the dvds, but I'm still very excited about this series.

This is just what I was thinking too. Sometimes I want a much lighter workout, or a lighter one to add on the end of a harder one, and I have a tough time finding one that is just what I feel I need. I was thinking these would be a great supplemental WO (like to add on to another one), or good for a doubles day when I might want something a little less intense after a long day. At first I was thinking I was a little disappointed that the new videos would be intermediate, but the more I've thought about it, the more I can see how I could use them.
 
I love the fact we are getting intermediate videos! I am just now have gotten to where I can actually do the advanced DVDs and it isn't killing me! Yea me! With that being said I do not enjoy advanced all out every single day. I love verity and to me that is what mixing it up is about. I do heavy weights. One day a hoot the next and lower body and plyo the next then a long steady moderate intensity the next then a metabolic the next the a circuit then a another HIIT the next and I am still trying to get ever muscle group tempo times a week well if every cardio is advanced and it is now I get warm out and have to take more then one day off and I hate that. If I. Have these DVDs to add to my HIIT and heavy lifting I would look forward to my harder workouts! Any way from my understanding the blast makes it go up to advanced level.


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A lot of instructors even Beachbody have a modifier in their workouts :) Just because you modify doesn't mean you don't get a good workout in. I started Cathe's XTrain series in Nov. 2014, finished it in Jan 2015. My husband had a hip replacement , we had to modify a lot of Cathe's high impact moves (we workout together), sometimes the entire workout. I also have a lot of problems with my back and PF/heal spur. I have to modified almost all cardio workouts. I can't and won't do mountain climbers or anything I have to throw myself on the floor and jump up again. Those moves will throw my back out:( I had a few slipped disc in my back, which will not allow me to do those exercises. I had way to many health issues the last few years, more than I can count on. In Nov 2014 I started the 3 month XTrain rotation. In Jan 2015 I started 21 Day Fix from Beachbody :) I did 3 rounds of the original 21 Day Fix. I am in my 3rd week of 21 Day Extreme. Which I absolutely love 21 DF, BTW! And yes, they show a modifier. Believe me, just because there is a modifier doesn't mean you are not working hard enough, wrong! This morning I did 21 Day Fix Ext. Cardio, I followed the modifier for the most part of the workout. I was a sweaty mess:D I burned over 400 cal in 30 min. Not bad, hah? You get out what you put in a workout. The best part of all of this , I am down 25 pounds since Nov 2014:D I have 2 more pounds to go and I reached my goal weight :) The last 4 years, I had a really hard time losing weight, it just wouldn't come off:( Of course, I cleaned up my diet :D And yes, I throw in a Cathe cardio workout here and there, but like I said it's no fun to come up with your own modi
faction. I am so trilled that Cathe is finally showing a modifier :D
 
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