Has anyone used Rogaine or Nioxin for thinning hair?

BAM

Cathlete
My hair has been thinning for many years and I've been to dr.'s, had everything tested, etc. Nothing is working for me and I want to hold on to whatever I have which becomes less and less each week. I was wondering if any of the women here have used either Rogaine or Nioxin with success. I'm not interested in the shampoo, conditioning type system, just the serum. I know Rogaine is most popular for the serum but thought that Nioxin had one as well but I'm not sure. I only want to use something to rub on my scalp. If anyone has had success with these or any other hair loss treatments, would you please share your experiences? I don't want to part (yep, there's a pun in that :D) with anymore hair.

Thank you!

Bam
 
I used the men's Rogaine for two years. It did nothing to halt the shedding. Nothing at all. I know this is not what you want to hear. I also used the Nioxin products for about 4 years. I spent a lot of money on these products and got nothing for it.

I have had to accept that this is genetic and there is nothing I can do about it. It still makes me depressed every time I wash my hair, but I cannot base my whole life around it. When it gets too bad with too much scalp showing, I will start wearing wigs and that is the end of it.

It is one of the worst things that can happen to a woman I think, but we still have to remember that who we are has nothing to do with hair follicles.

Clare
 
I, too, have tried Rogaine - women's formula - with no benefit. My dermatologist decided I had some sort of something going on and prescribed a steroidal topical stuff I put on 2x a day. That seems to have halted the hair loss, but I'm not seeing and recovery of hair growth.

I never tried the Nioxin.
I couldn't get any of my doctors to do any testing or biopsy or anything at all to diagnose the problem.
 
I'm a hair stylist and have many clients with thinning hair. I personally don't have this problem so I can't make a comment on any experiences of my own, but can tell you what clients have tried. Nioxin is a three part system(shampoo, cond and scalp therapy) all 3 have to be used or it will not work. Have had a client or two have success with rogaine, but as soon as you stop using it, hair loss resumes. Have you gone to a dermotologist? Have a male client who is experiencing alapecia aerota ( balding patches) and he is getting injections, but this does not working for regular thinning and balding. His dermotologist told him that rogaine and nioxin don't work and to use head and shoulders, which just blows my mind. He said when you get in the shower, wash hair and let it sit on head while you finsh the rest of your showering then rinse before you get out. This is info I just got from him a couple weeks ago, so can't tell you of any success he's had with it yet. You've said you had a bunch of testing done so I'm assuming they checked your thyroid, cause that's a major contributer to thinning hair. If you haven't seen a dermatologist, I would recommend that. Good luck
 
Horsetail seems to help my hair grow but its not any thicker than it was, I didn't grow any new hairs. I expect at some point to invest in either wigs or scarves. I do have an endocrine disorder called PcOS and thinning hair is one of the symptoms. Its easy to be tested for it, FSH (follicle stimulating hormone.) and glucose (looking for insulin resistance) and also testosterone level (too high can cause problems.) People with that disorder also have hirsuitism and unexplained weight gain (not all.) You could also have a vitamin deficiency which causes that.
 
Thanks everyone for your responses. It's hard when you've been working at halting it for such a long time and it just keeps getting worse. If anyone finds anything that helps in the future, please, please, please post your discovery.

Christine, can you please let us know if your client has any luck with the Head and Shoulders? You never know what can work.

Thanks again!

Bam
 
Hi Bam,

My doctor said that rogaine is definitely hit or miss and very inconsistent. I was told to take GNC hair, skin, and nails supplements, nordic naturals fish oil, and a high quality multi-vitamin. This definitely stopped the loss of hair for me and the brittleness of my hair went away. My loss stemmed from stress, weight loss and surgery. I'm not totally convinced that it will grow back to it's former volume because my mom also had thinning hair. If you haven't taken these supplements, you may want to give it a try. It takes about a month or so to see the changes.
 
Thanks, lkl. I have taken supplements for many years but I'm still in the same boat. It's quite hard when I've been addressing it for so long and can't do a gosh darn thing about it. My hair has receded and just plain thinned so much and even more so in the past few months. I'm looking into an integration hair piece where you can pull your own hair through large openings to blend with the hair on the hair piece. I hope I can find the right one that works for me. It won't solve my problem but at least I can feel better (hopefully) when I go out. I just have to deal with when I look in the mirror and see the truth. Yes, I know there's more to me than my hair but when you add this on top of a lot of other things going on in my life, it's a bit harder to deal with.

Thanks again!

Bam
 
I have used the product but frankly speaking this procut is not useful as it is found to cause hair loss in the long run. I suggest if you are facing a problem of hairloss then you should visit a good hair specialist as that may help you to keep your hair long and strong. Maintaining a good hair care regimen may also help you to prevent hair loss.
 
Are you on any prescription meds that may be contributing to this? Hair loss seems to pop up on the "side effects" for a lot of medications that you'd think would have nothing to do with hair, like some BP meds. Often there's an alternative medication that could be tried to see if it is less troublesome. I would take the time to look up each medication and read the fine print.
 
Wow! I almost missed this thread even though I'm the one that started it awhile back. Thanks for your input, Jacob and Traildoggie. I am not taking any medications nor have I in the past. I've seen quite a few practitioners who have helped me work on my overall health but nothing has been helping. My hair, since I first wrote this post, has gotten even worse. I'm planning on going to a wig shop to find a pull through wig but I just haven't pushed myself to go which I know I need to. It's too frustrating trying to make my hair "work" everyday.

Someone had recommended Palmer's Hair Food. She said that she got a bald patch after giving birth to her child and this product helped the hair grow back. I know that some women experience hair growth while others experience hair loss during pregnancy but it usually grows back so I'm not sure it was the product that actually helped her or her hormones just getting back in balance after her baby was born.

I'm sure that whoever discovers something that really helps people with hair loss will be revered. I hope the solution comes soon for everyone experiencing this. It can really play with your emotions.

Thanks for your responses!

Bam
 
Have a male client who is experiencing alapecia aerota ( balding patches) and he is getting injections, but this does not working for regular thinning and balding. His dermotologist told him that rogaine and nioxin don't work and to use head and shoulders, which just blows my mind. He said when you get in the shower, wash hair and let it sit on head while you finsh the rest of your showering then rinse before you get out.


Most likely because Head & Shoulder's *magic* ingredient is zinc which supposedly lowers DHT levels (which is an androgen). This is one of the major causes of hair loss in men. Taking too much zinc (orally) will raise testosterone and can also lead to hair shedding. The reason behind shampooing is DHT is produced in several areas of the body, including hair follicles and zinc supposedly combats DHT (a theory). The other reasoning behind using anti-dandruff type shampoos, is when your scalp is inflamed or irritated by dandruff or seborrhea this can further shedding. The shampoo that came out a few years back (Nizoral) has ketoconazole, which is an antifungal that supposedly kills the critter that causes fungus. If your head itches badly when you sweat, you probably have some sort of irritation going on. I'm talking about bad itching and stinging where you feel you have to scratch, and that can lead to hair shedding. Sometimes I've got sweat going on for hours while participating in 24 hour races, my helmet can get really oppressive and I found that pure tea tree oil (about 4 drops) in my palm with my shampoo makes everything right. Its along the same lines as sweaty feet in tight shoes, you can develop a fungus.

This is so frustrating :( . Some of the areas that I ran into trying to solve my anemia, was low ferritin levels can cause hair shedding and very little hair re-growth. Low iron can also cause brittle hair, same if you are low on minerals, and not just magnesium, but the whole spectrum. Soy blocks absorption of several important minerals, and soy is in EVERYTHING. The only soy I would eat is the fermented type. The other area you may look into is iodine. Soy also blocks iodine. Bread that contains bromide also blocks iodine. I'm certainly not saying this is your issue, but something to think about. Iodine is crucial for proper thyroid health. Another happy accident from participating in cycling is I found out you can't exist on just water when you are *out* there. You have to have other stuff to keep you from bonking and I have tried many supplements in my camelbak to keep me moving. Cramping and bonking comes about also from mineral loss through sweating. Hence, my low iron levels. I started putting liquid minerals in my camelbak which solved that problem, and made my nails stronger and my hair stronger and growing way faster. If you sweat a lot, don't eat enough red meat, and lots of soy, this could be part of the picture of hair loss for you. Another hair killer is excessive levels of vitamin A or extremely low levels of A, and if you are using a retinoid skin product that is adding to it. Low levels of vitamin D, low iron, low protein, low minerals.

Possibly you should have a hormone panel done, showing your testosterone, DHA (not DHT now) progesterone and estrogen levels. If you haven't done your thyroid, I would have a complete thyroid panel done with T3 and T4 levels. Too little testosterone is not good either for hair. One of the more hair-friendly hormones is estriol (not estrogen or estrone, the other 2 estrogens) but estriol which is produced highly when you are pregnant.

Ever look back at women in old pictures and portraits? They have all this hair in braids wound around their head. I look back at my own old family pictures and its the same thing. But now I rarely see women with thick heavy hair, and I have to wonder about our environment and what we are eating and not eating, like is it because of lead or plastics that are leaching chemicals into our food. Much good luck to you, I hope you find some answers.
 
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DirtDiva, thank you for your most in-depth response. It was quite helpful! I have had thorough hormone levels checked many times and I do have some slight imbalances and have tried to get them under control but it has been quite a challenge. There is a hereditary component involved as well but I believe that one can find what that component is and work on correcting it. I've seen this happen in other instances.

You mentioned that you found a liquid mineral supplement. I have tried several but none that have worked for me. Which one did you use? I don't eat soy and generally have a good diet. It's true that there are so many chemicals that we are ingesting knowingly and unknowingly which are adversely affecting all of us. Even when you're eating clean, you're really not as well as breathing the aire we breathe and showering with the water we're provided, etc., but that's for another thread. :)

Thanks again!

Bam
 
Try taking viviscal. It really seems to be working for me.

Garance, thanks for that recommendation. I'm so glad it's working for you!!! Can you tell me a bit more about your experience with it such as how long you've been using it, how long until you noticed a difference and specfically what the changes were? Also, are you using any of their scalp products?

Thank you!

Bam
 
DirtDiva, thank you for your most in-depth response. It was quite helpful! I have had thorough hormone levels checked many times and I do have some slight imbalances and have tried to get them under control but it has been quite a challenge. There is a hereditary component involved as well but I believe that one can find what that component is and work on correcting it. I've seen this happen in other instances.

You mentioned that you found a liquid mineral supplement. I have tried several but none that have worked for me. Which one did you use? I don't eat soy and generally have a good diet. It's true that there are so many chemicals that we are ingesting knowingly and unknowingly which are adversely affecting all of us. Even when you're eating clean, you're really not as well as breathing the aire we breathe and showering with the water we're provided, etc., but that's for another thread. :)

Thanks again!

Bam

Lately I am using ConcernTrace liquid minerals, but beware, they taste like @ss if you put too much in your hydration pack. Funny though, the right amount makes water taste really good. Now when I put it in my protein mix, I'll mask it with a tablespoon of melted coconut oil, then add a scoop of protein, then a half teaspoon of the liquid minerals. Just :confused: watch it though on how much! You can read about it here:
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/liquid-tablet-minerals/concentrace-ionic-minerals

Amazon has some reviews on it too.

There were some good articles on the link below about iodine too.

http://www.earthclinic.com/

I think hair issues can be a result of several things going on in one's life. Good luck on all of this.
 
Lately I am using ConcernTrace liquid minerals, but beware, they taste like @ss if you put too much in your hydration pack. Funny though, the right amount makes water taste really good. Now when I put it in my protein mix, I'll mask it with a tablespoon of melted coconut oil, then add a scoop of protein, then a half teaspoon of the liquid minerals. Just :confused: watch it though on how much! You can read about it here:
http://www.traceminerals.com/products/liquid-tablet-minerals/concentrace-ionic-minerals

Amazon has some reviews on it too.

There were some good articles on the link below about iodine too.

http://www.earthclinic.com/

I think hair issues can be a result of several things going on in one's life. Good luck on all of this.

I've used ConcenTrace and had to stop because even the tiniest amount was upsetting my digestive system. I tried just doing one drop and can't remember what happened. Maybe I'll go back to trying the one drop again. It is a great product. I just wish my body would know that too! :D

Thanks for the links and for all the information you gave me. It is all helpful.

Bam
 
Hi again--

Two months ago I was reading an article on hair in Vogue magazine, and the writer mentioned that several models who had overprocessed and lost a lot of hair revived their locks by taking viviscal. So, I thought what the heck, I'll try it for a month, and really felt like it started working right away. I am into my second month, and my hair is definitely thicker and has more body. I have always had very fine and thin hair, but it seemed even more lifeless after menopause. It's much improved. You should read the reviews at drugstore.com or Amazon.com. I take the pills--two per day. Nothing else. Some of the other recommendations for hair in the Vogue mag were Keratin treatments and Living Proof shampoo for serious frizzies. I like my Kerastase shampoo and conditioner for volume, so I have not tried these items.
 
Horsetail worked pretty well for me. Its an herb that you can buy otc, most drugstores and health food stores carry it. You just take it 3x/day with water. It doesn't seem to have any unwanted side effects other than your eyelashes will grow too.
 
For the past several years - everytime I did a cycle, I've been noticing that my hair was thinning; I used to have really thick hair. I didn't think much of it until about a year ago when I started to get really self conscious about it and every year I could see more and more of my scalp. It wasn't to the point of being bald and having to use Rogaine but something needed to be done.

I found Shielo's Volume Shampoo & Conditioner and although it seemed expensive, and for women, I decided to try it out based on the positive reviews. I'm very glad that I did. I've been using it for 4 months now and I can definitely feel a difference and my girlfriend has commented that she can see and feel the difference too.

I use it everyday and you don't need to use much for a guy with short hair. As soon as I used it, my hair felt a little different than my standard shampoo and I'd have to say that it took about a couple of months to start to feel and see a significant improvement.

This shampoo should be used at least 5 times a week and smells great, it's like an apple smell; I don't experience any stinging. My hair seems to also grow faster so I need more frequent hair cuts but that's not something I'm complaining about; it's definitely hair growth stimulating. This is not for someone who is already bald and wants to grow back hair on a bald spot. This is more for someone who has started to see and feel their hair thinning and wants to stop it from getting worse and get some thickness back in their hair. My hair is not what it was 10 years ago but it looks and feels a lot better now and it combs better too. Highly recommended; it's worth the price for me.
 

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