Four year old boy w/anorexia?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Laura, I agree. And we should be able to "discuss" without judgment, but sometimes when one is close to an issue, their strong opposing opinion may come out much "stronger" than intended.

I believe there are eating disorders, AND I believe there are people who choose to starve themselves for appearance sake.

Hey everyone, play nicely or you go to your rooms.:) Darn, there's that ole mother in me coming out.
 
I find it interesting that you post such inflammatory material and yet are blown away that people get offended and possibly say some unkind things to you. I do think you are a very thought provoking person, however, I tend to think your recent posts of late speak to an offensive and demeaning nature. I find it somewhat appalling that you have no problem posting some of the things that you do regarding weight, EDs, etc, yet you want it to remain civil. Perhaps you are right this is not the forum to be discussing some of these things. I think you do need to be somewhat sensitive to the crowd you are posting towards. If you choose to see it as name calling and people being mean to you, then so be it...but it is a two way street.


"you miss 100% of the shots you never take"


Debbie
 
>First of all I have serious doubts about the accuracy of this
>story. I never saw anything about it. I tried to google it and
>came up empty. And were they saying the boy was anorexic or
>that he had anorexia nervosa? There is a BIG difference
>between anorexia and ANOREXIA NERVOSA.
>
>Anorexia simply means a loss of appetite for a prolonged
>period of time. It is not neccessarily indicative of a deeper
>psychological problem. It just means that for whatever reason,
>a person isn't hungry. It may be related to some other
>physical condition such as a digestive problem, or it could be
>a side effect of medication, or some other disease process
>like cancer, etc. In children, failure to thrive is a
>possibility as well. Abuse and neglect are often related to
>anorexia in kids.
>
>Anorexia Nervosa is characterized by a pathological fear of
>weight gain. It most commonly (but not exclusively) affects
>young women in their teens and early 20's.
>


I'm glad someone finally chimed in & brought this up. Yes. These are two different diagnoses that exist whether someone feels like they should or not.

Marla
 
>Michele, I'm deeply sorry to hear about your SIL. That is so
>very sad.


Thank you, Dani. I'll never forget that day as long as I live. My poor brother came home from work on his lunch break and found his wife dead on the floor, my little nephew sitting there beside her body. It was devastating for him. My nephew is 28 years old now and has no recollection of his mom.

Michele
 
First I would like to know why we think that anyone who is skinny is automatically anorexic? Some people are naturally thin. Am I one of them? No. But I think it is unfair to assume that anyone who is really thin automatically has an eating disorder.

As for the idea that it is not a real disorder I must disagree. In MANY cases the anorexia is just a symptom of soemthing else.

So the 14 year old girl has tons of money (or at least her parents do), she lives in a great house and has all the clothes she ever wanted.

Does she feel loved by her parents? Do they pay any attention to her or are they off making their millions and then shoving it in her face as a means to buy her love?

Is she abused by those wonderful parents either emotionally, sexually or physically? Please explain to me how money accounts for that.

Many girls (and more women)see the food they put in their bodies as something they can control regardless of what is going on around them. When you live in a world that is chaotic it feels good to have somethig that grounds you.

As for the 4yo, if this is true then I BET his parents are to blame for this one.

As for how you feel about this forum. I think that the reason your emails re other people are remembered more than your helpful ones are because of late you have insulted pretty much anyone who is not you.

Many of us who post here do so for inspiration and may not yet have the body we want. I am still 35 pounds overweight and therefore I am fat. Do we need to wait until we ae at goal or below it before we can post here?
 
Michelle,

I too am very sorry to hear of your SIL. That would have been about the time frame, where the disease was finally getting recognized (at least in North CA where I grew up) and yet there wasn't enough information out to reach everyone. I had a friend who had multiple battles with it around that time frame and it was very sad to see how people reacted to it. Comments, like she is so thin, why doesn't she just eat? She became very isolated. People just didn't understand it. Luckily there is alot more information available today, so hopefully less people will have to experience the loss of someone as you and your family did.

Jean
 
(if this is a duplicate, I apoligize, my post button is giving me problems)

Wow. I guess I really needed a break from work, because I stopped and read through all of these.

I agree to a certain point that some people may bring it on themselves, ie trying to be too thin, fit in etc. But I have also heard that the disease is more a manifestation of an under lying control issue. Patients with the disease feel like everything in their life is out of control and food is the one thing that they can control. You don't intentionally/knowingly starve yourself, although that is what it appears to outsiders. You see yourself differently than others see you. And it usually requires intervention to get through it. It would be great if we could just tell someone, you have so much going on, why are you doing this to yourself?, but it's not that easy. As with alcoholism, it usually takes counseling and medical intervention to find the road to recovery.


On a lighter note, I hope that we all can continue to post our opinions here. Some times we are just having one of those days where we need to get something off our chest and don't mean to offend people when we do it. And in all fairness, LauraMax did state it was in her opinion and that she was not trying to offend. Each of us has a right to respond, but just because you don't agree with someone, does not mean you should attack them. Simply state your own opinion or your additional information (like several of you did) so we can all be receptive to both sides and draw our own conclusions. Now on the days where we feel the need to offend, maybe we can label the Lead in to the thread "Warning I'm P O'd at something"LOL
Jean
 
>"and you would be the same one who dissed being fat? and now
>is upset that we blame society? Ummmm.
>
>
>
>"you miss 100% of the shots you never take"
>
>
>Debbie"
>
>"Frankly, I find the original post incredibly obnoxious. Laura
>aren't you the one who is disgusted by fat people as well? And
>the idiot women at your gym? And the smelly men who have the
>nerve to sweat while working out? What is with these posts
>that denigrate others?
>
>And, BTW, you're incorrect about eating disorders existing
>only in the last few decades. Instances of eating disorders
>have been recorded for centuries, particularly amongst
>religious women and girls. There are several well-regarded
>books on the topic. I suggest "Fasting Girls: a History of
>Anorexia Nervosa" and "Holy Anorexia."
>
>Annoyed,
>
>Sparrow"
>
>Well, isn't it interesting that people like you focus only on
>what you view as negative things I've posted, & completely
>ignore the voluminous amount of positive & encouraging
>information I've written on here. That says a great deal
>about your personalities. And you have the audacity to call
>me obnoxious & judgmental? Better look in your own backyard
>before you start name calling.........And Sparrow, religious
>fasting is hardly the same as starving yourself to be thin.
>What an utterly ridiculous comparison.
>
>This forum used to be a really friendly place where people
>could post their opinions about health & fitness without being
>called names, ridiculed and judged. My how things have
>changed. I'm saddened by the outright anger & hostility that
>is clearly emanating from the majority of members who now post
>here. You'd think exercise would alleviate some of that, but
>maybe you're not real exercisers--you're the typical quick
>fixers looking for the easy way out.
>
>I suppose I'd be better off finding another place to discuss
>health & fitness. This forum has become nothing but a bunch
>of self centered, egotistical know it alls who can't stand the
>thought of anyone else thinking differently than they do.
>
>Adios former amigas!
>

Laura, I was not speaking of religious fasting. Fasting as Muslims do during Ramadan is religious fasting. The topics of these books are women and girls who starved themselves, many to death, and a good many of them happened to be religious, though not even close to all of them. My original point stands, that anorexia was known of, if not called that, centuries ago.

Regarding being offended by the responses to your post, well, you have no leg to stand on. A good many of your posts are a tribute to your arrogance and ignorance. The fact that you routinely start posts that belittle people and then get in a snit when others respond strongly speaks to your level of (im) maturity. Please do respond with more snarky, adolescent remarks and confirm my opinion of you.

Sparrow

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ‘Wow - what a ride!’ — Peter Sage
 
I don't have a problem with anyone stating their opinion. It's the manner in which they do it that gets my attention. You can either raise issues in a manner that encourages friendly debate, or you can throw out disparaging remarks that serve only to belittle people. The latter is what we have here today. The initial post did nothing to provoke a thoughtful discourse, it merely inflammed people by it's utter insensitivity.

Michele
 
Kristen, I hang out with a girl(actually run with her) and I really do not think she knows what people say about her.She is 5'6" and 108.That may not seem to bad b/c she isn't aneroxic but b/c she is so thin, people assume she as an eating disorder.I find myself picking up for her quit often and when i tell people she eats alot,they look at me like I have 10 heads and there is no way they beleive me.Its not until you spend time with her and are around her that you realize that she is naturally thin.Its funny how people think that isn't it? Just b/c your thin you have some sort of disorder.And I guess the fact that she runs also make people think she as some issues.I think the people around here only think you workout if you are trying to lose weight.
Lori:)
 
Thank you to the poster who brought it to our attention that Anorexia is different than Anorexia Nervosa.

After my dad died of esophogial cancer (which affected his ability to swallow, so he was hooked up to intravenous feeding), I read on one of his medical charts "anorexia". I could never understand, until now, why on earth that was written, since I knew he was unable to continue eating for a physical reason, rather than a psycological one. I am so grateful for this piece of information. Thank you!

Wendy
 
I wonder why I'm not offended by reading other's opinions when they differ from mine? And, yes, there have been some that have hit pretty close to home!!

LauraMax, Please don't go! I, for one, enjoy reading your posts. I get a chuckle from them more often than not!!
 
I hate to be blunt with you, but I am apalled by your statements. I believe you have the right to express your opinions, but I do not believe that you have the right to make inaccurate and unfair judgments. 2 years ago, I was hooked up to a heart monitor and IV in a hospital room for 3 months due to anorexia. This place specialized in eating disorders and stayed up on the research. Scientists have actually found a gene, or genetic vulnerability, to eating disorder behavior (and levels of serotonin). So that isn't becoming of you to say that middle class girls like me who have, or have had, an eating disorder are just looking for sympathy. Also, the medical community did not just decide to diagnose eating disorders for their own good. Hmmm, I wonder why anorexia is the most deadly mental illness. Last time I checked, doctors were not superhuman and could not just make people struggle and die for monetary gains. You can't place blame on any one (or several) person because no parent, child, or doctor would ever ask to go through hell and essentially commit suicide.
Maria Katherine

Don't take life too seriously, let go of your inhibitions and trust your intuition!
 
I was surprised to see these statements from you, Laura, since I have developed the impression a closet anorexic. In the past you have talked about how you regularly purge your intestinal tract which is a common practice among anorexics. Also, you have had the tendency on this forum to continually make extremely inflammatory statements about overweight people. In addition, you have made comments that if you were over a certain weight, you looked AWFUL. This is where I got the impression that you may unknowingly suffer from an eating disorder. Psychologically, we sometimes abhor things in other people that we subconsciously dislike seeing in ourselves.

I'm not trying to offend you here or saying you are anorexic, I'm just making an observation. I'm probably totally off base but like I said, I was surprised to see your comments.
 
Well, I'll chime in here as yet another who has suffered eating disorders. I had a very troubled adolesence. In fact, I was recently interviewed for an article about my experiences with anorexia nervosa. The writer interviewed me because when I had the disease, it didn't have a name yet, and no one had ever heard of it and I didn't have any way of knowing what was happening to me. I imagine it was similar for you, Honeybunch.

When I get a copy of the article, maybe I'll post it. The writer did extensive research on the topic, and it is very complicated. There are a variety of emotional and physical factors involved. Eating disorders are a very serious and potentially deadly business.

I'm so glad there is a name for the disease now and that the medical community is becoming more adept at dealing with it. It is a relief for me to know that few will ever have to suffer the total isolation and alienation I experienced when I was young. The suffering for both the afflicted and the family of the afflicted is profound and immeasurable.

For all who are suffering now, we in Catheland are here to support you, so please don't be afraid to talk about what you are going through. Support is essential, and there are many here who can relate to what you are going through.

-Nancy
 
I originally didn't post this thread because I didn't think I should lend this thread any shred of credibility. The pure ignorance of a deadly disease that afflicts so many men and women, frankly, appalled me. If the original poster knew anything about the etiology of anorexia nervosa she would know that the lack of eating was only a "symptom" of the disorder and "not the disorder." The self-professed pseudo-historian is also incorrect in other areas. It is certainly not a new disease. There were cases dating as far back as 1689 as described by Richard Morton in "A Nervous Consumption" and in 1873 by Sir William Gill and Charles Laségue.

It is wonderful that there is slightly better treatment and much more recognition of this (obviously) very misunderstood disorder. Unfortunately, there are still people who believe that it is all about food. I only have two words for you..."Get educated" for your sake and others. Your lack of knowledge is a danger to those afflicted.

Now, back to my original purpose of this post... Maria Katherine, Shelley, LeslieMarie, Sparrow, Honeybunch, Nancy... and anyone who has ever suffered from any eating disorder (including anorexia nervosa, bulimia, binge eating, overeating and compulsive eating)......my hopes and prayers for a continued, ongoing and safe recovery.

Cyberhugs,
Robin
 
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