The Bachelor Finale!

He seems like once the newness of the relationship wore off, once it was time to get back to the real world, HE was the 1 who flaked......what was he thinking....did he forget about his little boy? He had better hope it works with Molly since he will really look like a cad if it doesn't! It does make 1 wonder if they weren't involved all along.....poor Melissa! I hope she keeps her chin up....he could have at least broken up with her before the show instead of ON it!!! Do ya think he was too scared to?!
 
O.K. I will probably be in the minority here but let's look at how this entire show works. A person meets 25 individuals in a very CONTROLLED environment. There is no life outside of where they are dictated to be or go. Every activity is planned out. Isn't it much easier to connect with someone (given initial attraction) when you are having fantasy dates in helicopters, or having side by side massages, or boating to who knows where, or staying in a fantasy suite? If any, and I do mean anyone of us were in that same environment, we, and our emotions, would get caught up in it too. You have no idea how life with a person is going to be outside of the fantasy environment and into reality. I'm sure we all could agree that reality and fantasy do not equate! Given that, I do believe Jason was absolutely genuine with his feelings for both ladies. Once out of fantasy land, he realized where his true feelings really lie. I can not condemn a person for what their heart feels. If I thought he was stringing one of them along, then he'd be deemed an *sshole but I truly don't believe he was.

Now, as to why this was done on national television? All I can say is we have no idea what is written in their contracts. I think they have many restrictions and many things they have to do to create good ratings. Remember, it's ALL about the ratings. They may not even be able to talk about the specifics in their contracts. My guess is that money was offered or some other perks that not only would help out Jason, but Melissa as well. Molly was still so in love with him that all she was dreaming about was that he'd come knocking on her door. Well, he did, at the abc studios. She did say that they do have to talk but hey, her fantasy came true so I can understand her initial agreement to try things out.

In real life we probably wouldn't be falling so hard for 2 people at the same time because once we realized how strong our feelings were for one person, we would stop dating others. This show doesn't afford that opportunity. They can't let a person go until the very end. That's why there's a show. It's just too bad that he proposed to Melissa. He should have said I'd like to get to know you better. I'm wondering how the contracts are set up for that as well. I know there's been one or more previous bachelors who didn't propose at the end. Nobody should be proposed to after 6 weeks in that type of setting. I know Melissa will be on the show tomorrow but will Jason return? I hope she does do some soul searching and seeks some counseling. She would always make comments about how she keeps getting dumped so perhaps she can get to the bottom of why she always finds herself in the same circumstance.

I'll certainly be watching tomorrow. Jason is going to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight. I hope he reveals something worthy. :)

Bam
 
Molly was an athlete and her school's field was not too far from my house. I believe she was a McDonald's Scholar Athlete as well. If life with Jason doesn't work, she will find someone new. Jason has very low emotional intelligence and he didn't consider common demoninators or marrying his best friend as well.
 
Jason

Hi,

Boy was I disappointed when Jason ditched Mellissa on national television. The sad look, the half tears, I mean come on. All I can say is what a turn off! He could be so upset and do something so crummy. Well, I made a lot of other comments to DH, but I won't post them here.

Does anyone think there is anyway the entire thing with Melissa was staged and she already knew? It is tv.

Tracy
 
My bubble was totally burst for Jason. He seemed like such a sweet guy, I mean, single father, who adored his child and was looking for the love of his life.

I don't fall for the Fairy Tale Ending of these shows, really. the odds of them staying together are pretty crappy. But what he did to Melissa was pretty freakin low on his part. The entire "It's me, not you". Come ON , he didn't HAVE to do it that way.

I agree too, that Jillian would have been his best pick. I think starting out as best friends is something that's made for a longer relationship.

I didn't see Jimmy Kimmel, did any of you? What happened?
 
Jason told Chris Harrison, the host, that Melissa knew it wasn't going to work out so it certainly wasn't a surprise to her as to what happened. When he was on Jimmy Kimmel, he re-affirmed this. He said that they had many conversations about this on the phone. People, this is t.v.! It's not like Jason said, "Ooh, I want to humiliate someone on national t.v. so ABC you must let me do this! Jimmy asked him why it was done on t.v. and Jason said that he and Melissa basically knew that it was part of the show which is what happens when you sign a contract.

I don't think Jason is a cad. He stated that when he proposed to her, he truly felt she was "the one" but when they got into the real world, the chemistry changed including basic conversations between the two of them. I really don't understand why everyone is beating him up. Like I said in my earlier post, real world and fantasy world ARE NOT THE SAME! It's in the real world where you see if you have enough in common to sustain a relationship. Apparently, they did not, plain and simple.

Now, where can I sign up to be the next Bachelorette? :) :) :)

Bam
 
But I don't think it was "in his contract" to use the whole, "It's me, not you" line.

I don't buy it.

And I just wanted to puke when he asked Molly to "go out for a coffee or a drink".
 
BAM said:
Jason told Chris Harrison, the host, that Melissa knew it wasn't going to work out so it certainly wasn't a surprise to her as to what happened. When he was on Jimmy Kimmel, he re-affirmed this. He said that they had many conversations about this on the phone. People, this is t.v.! It's not like Jason said, "Ooh, I want to humiliate someone on national t.v. so ABC you must let me do this! Jimmy asked him why it was done on t.v. and Jason said that he and Melissa basically knew that it was part of the show which is what happens when you sign a contract.

I don't think Jason is a cad. He stated that when he proposed to her, he truly felt she was "the one" but when they got into the real world, the chemistry changed including basic conversations between the two of them. I really don't understand why everyone is beating him up. Like I said in my earlier post, real world and fantasy world ARE NOT THE SAME! It's in the real world where you see if you have enough in common to sustain a relationship. Apparently, they did not, plain and simple.

Now, where can I sign up to be the next Bachelorette? :) :) :)

Bam
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I agree with you - wouldnt he have been more of a cad to not admit to his true feelings and kept it up for TV's sake??? He did what he had to do - this is real life people - and when the cameras go away and he cant have the same kind of conversations with someone - what else is he suppose to do???

I was also IN his contract that he had to do it live - he wanted to do it off camera the night before - but THE CONTRACT dictated that he couldnt. The producers are the a$$holes that didnt let him do it off camera.

People make wrong choices when forced to - he was forced to choose between the two - made what he thought was the right decision - then hindsight realized it wasnt the same. Why is he such a cad for being honest??? I dont get beating him up about it....
 
Well, let's talk about the "it's not you, it's me," line. My statements do not apply if someone is truly using or leading another person on. As you are dating and getting to know someone, you don't know exactly where your feelings will end up. As you are in the process, your feelings of meeting this new person could be quite high and the initial stages of getting to know someone who you are initially quite attracted to is very exciting. If, as time goes by, you're "just not that into the person", and they really haven't done or said anything to turn your feelings around, then it truly is a "me and not you" situation. I'm sure many of us have experienced this. I certainly have. I've met some really nice guys but as we dated, I found that it was my feelings that weren't there and it had nothing to do with anything specific about the other person. I may not have actually used that line but I don't think it really is a line. Many times it's just the truth!

Bam
 
aproudfit said:
I agree with you - wouldnt he have been more of a cad to not admit to his true feelings and kept it up for TV's sake??? He did what he had to do - this is real life people - and when the cameras go away and he cant have the same kind of conversations with someone - what else is he suppose to do???

I was also IN his contract that he had to do it live - he wanted to do it off camera the night before - but THE CONTRACT dictated that he couldnt. The producers are the a$$holes that didnt let him do it off camera.

People make wrong choices when forced to - he was forced to choose between the two - made what he thought was the right decision - then hindsight realized it wasnt the same. Why is he such a cad for being honest??? I dont get beating him up about it....
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Anne, and ITA with you. Thanks for seeing it for what it really is! :)

Bam
 
So weird!! If I were Molly I would tell him to go away!! He is goofy. Having said that... I Can't wait to watch tonight.

And, I predict that Melissa is the next Bachelorette.
 
Jason

Hi,

I guess that Jason couldn't have predicted that the show would end up like it did, but I am assuming that when he signed the contract he knew that this would be the scenerio if it didn't work. Having said that, there are all sorts of compromises that many people would not agree to just so that they could be on national television.

I just watch it because it is mindlessly entertaining. I guess I shouldn't think less of Jason because that kind of stuff happens everyday. It's just that the show creates such a fairy tale environment that the ending was unexpected. It still doesn't mean that I have to like it.

Tracy
 
My DH was laughing saying it is all scripted .. not really a reality show ..I dont know .. He said Melissa knew what was up and they had talked about it and I think that is true .. and Molly looked really shocked .. taken a back .. think there must have been LOTS of editing .. b/c she looked at Chris .. then the camera man like .. ARE YOU KIDDING .. is this a joke .. where can I run out ... so I think she was genuine in her reaction .. I personally would have played a bit hard to get and ummmm .. dont touch me right now .. we will talk ...

I had a feeling (at the last rose choosing) when Molly looked at him when he told her it wasnt her .. and she looked him dead stare in the eyes and said "you are making the worst mistake of your life .. you are going to be hurt again" .. he looked like a deer in the headlights .. think that statement probably haunted him.

and Melissa just seemed too immature and when all the fantasy stuff is taken away you are left w/two people ..a normal life .. and a child .. GMAB . . how many people struggle w/everyday issues every day .. you know .. I can see things would change and it is not all butterflies and about you .. it is about reality and they prbly didnt fit in that scenerio ... hard to compare how they act and do in front of cameras at these exotic locals and then at home .. work .. day in and day out life .. 2 totally different extremes!! (Not to mention the enevitable meeting of the parents ... wonder how that went???)

I wonder what tonight will bring . b/c man he is taking some abuse in the media .. and to me this is the shows fault .. I enjoyed the show . . and last night .. yup sometimes life is not a fairy tale...but it is what you make of it .. and that is up to them to determine that!!:)
 
Don't give him too MUCH credit

I don't buy using the Bachelor's contractual obligations as a scapegoat for Jason being a cad. Simply speaking:

1 - Didn't give it much of a shot with Melissa - what, 6 weeks? Yeah, 6 weeks fair test in the real world. Heck, he wasn't allowed to see her publicly - couldn't have had any real public dates in the real world and probably didn't call or see her everyday. Did he expect there to be helicopters waiting for the 2 of them everywhere they went? He didn't need to try?? Couldn't have sat and had in depth conversations about their compatibility. Melissa didn't look to me as if she was fully aware that everything was just about to end.

2 - Why didn't he just lie? Melissa thought everything was "perfect." Her words - not mine. Why didn't he just walk onto that after final rose show with Melissa and tell the world how much in love he was and blah, blah, blah - and do what every other bachelor has done in its history and quietly end the relationship a short time later. This didn't have to be performed on television. I don't buy that.

3 - Yuk - he should have had some restraint and met Molly off camera to discuss the possibility of getting back with her - maybe a couple weeks later. No one can tell me that man didn't look like the biggest creep asking her out for coffee or a drink just minutes after dumping his finance!!! Does anybody really believe that this relationship has a shot in hell? Hopefully, Molly will come to her senses. No surprise this man is divorced.

He spent the entire season telling all these girls that he's been there - he's been heartbroken - Deanna broke his heart - but this didn't stop him from humiliating another human being on national television. The man had options.
 
One of my friends at work told me she read somewhere online that the whole thing was scripted from the get-go. And both melissa and molly were in on it. Supposedly he knew he wanted molly from the first meeting but the producers made him go though the process. I think it's pretty crappy of Jason to go though with it just for his five minutes of fame (again) esp. with a child involved.
 
I think this was scripted also. Why else would they break up on national television? Ugh! Yet another reason why not to sign up for being on reality TV shows...
 
Shoegal said:
I don't buy using the Bachelor's contractual obligations as a scapegoat for Jason being a cad. Simply speaking:

1 - Didn't give it much of a shot with Melissa - what, 6 weeks? Yeah, 6 weeks fair test in the real world. Heck, he wasn't allowed to see her publicly - couldn't have had any real public dates in the real world and probably didn't call or see her everyday. Did he expect there to be helicopters waiting for the 2 of them everywhere they went? He didn't need to try?? Couldn't have sat and had in depth conversations about their compatibility. Melissa didn't look to me as if she was fully aware that everything was just about to end.

2 - Why didn't he just lie? Melissa thought everything was "perfect." Her words - not mine. Why didn't he just walk onto that after final rose show with Melissa and tell the world how much in love he was and blah, blah, blah - and do what every other bachelor has done in its history and quietly end the relationship a short time later. This didn't have to be performed on television. I don't buy that.

3 - Yuk - he should have had some restraint and met Molly off camera to discuss the possibility of getting back with her - maybe a couple weeks later. No one can tell me that man didn't look like the biggest creep asking her out for coffee or a drink just minutes after dumping his finance!!! Does anybody really believe that this relationship has a shot in hell? Hopefully, Molly will come to her senses. No surprise this man is divorced.

He spent the entire season telling all these girls that he's been there - he's been heartbroken - Deanna broke his heart - but this didn't stop him from humiliating another human being on national television. The man had options.
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VERY VERY good points! Thank you!
 
Glad it's over, although GMA is hitting on the story today. I thought Melissa would be the next Bachelorette but I liked Jillian as well. I am sure the local news here will have Molly's parents on soon or some of her old high school friends might say something.
From all of this and another show, I am thinking I am watching WAY too much TV.
 
SO the big rumor, heard from someone who knows a friiend of a friend (that's where the RUMOR comes from) is that Molly is pregnant.

Now THAT would make much better sense as to why his decision was so rash.
 
Boingo1 said:
SO the big rumor, heard from someone who knows a friiend of a friend (that's where the RUMOR comes from) is that Molly is pregnant.

Now THAT would make much better sense as to why his decision was so rash.
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I don't know which is worse. That the whole thing was staged because he got Molly pregnant and everyone knew before hand that he would be breaking it off with Melissa or that he is a sleeze who broke up with Melissa on national television because he can't make up his mind:rolleyes:.

What is the worstest (let's pretend it's a word) is that I even care!!

Carrie
 
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