Lift, Move & Restore Update…10/28/24

[Debinmi]

The Cathe collection offers numerous workouts.
Enough alternatives to outweigh the inconvenience caused by the "delay" #IMHO

Thanks for clarifying. AND for owning it as your opinion, instead of trying, as others have, to chastise Cathletes for expressing their own opinions and disappointment.

Appreciate it!

 

[marret]

Unpopular opinion, fully prepared to be lambasted, but let the chips fall:

Y’all need to chill out.

Pre-payment for a DVD series is a capital investment so that the series can actually get made. Exercise videos are not a huge moneymaker and neither is owning and operating a gym — especially in this day and age when loads of “influencer” content is free on YouTube (Caroline Girven, for example). We pre-pay so Cathe Inc has the money to give us the quality product we have come to expect over years of trust and consistent product excellence. Once the series is in your hands you will likely forget that you had to wait so long for it; you will love it, you will use it all the time and you will be grateful someone put so much effort into making a series like no other on the market.

As for “excuses”:
I have been a Cathe customer for over 20 years and I’ve never known Cathe to lie, make false promises or not deliver on something she said she was going to do. Her reputation, business, staff, and future ventures are on the line every time she puts out a new series. That doesn’t seem to be something she takes lightly. There are behind the scenes things that happen that are out of her control (logistics, software, staffing issues, capital issues, supply-chain hiccups, health concerns — all kinds of scenarios) that can affect product delivery. A company owner has to be very selective in what they share so that it doesn’t reveal the shortcomings or personal details of others (so that it looks like she’s dragging someone else down) or make too many excuses (because that makes the company look weak, like they can’t deliver a product). One also has to make sure they aren’t pushing a product too quickly, taking shortcuts and delivering something that skips, isn’t chaptered, doesn’t jive with the Workout Blender, has terrible music, or has odd voice levels, bad lighting, etc.). As an aside, I remember well the very minor issues STS 2.0 had with one (or two?) discs that Cathe promptly replaced, free of charge.

All that to say:
Yes, the series was promised for “Summer 2024” and yes, it is now early November. But to insinuate that someone we have all come to trust and admire is lying to you when you have to wait a little while for what we know is going to be an excellent product is just rude and hurtful. Y’all can do better.

I am excited to get the new series. I look forward to using it. I am sorry and a little disappointed that it’s taking longer than expected, but I refuse to attack someone I know is working their butt off every day for me. Knock it off and show some love and understanding.

WOW! I didn't see any rudeness before this post. Your own post here is a bit offensive. We don't need to be talked to like we're children.

 

[Debinmi]

WOW! I didn't see any rudeness before this post. Your own post here is a bit offensive. We don't need to be talked to like we're children.

Actually I hope & pray she doesn't rant to anyone like this, let alone her children or husband!

 

[Debinmi]

From what I understand, the downloads of the workouts don't include the wonderful options of having premixes that DVDs offer?

That's my understanding - but the current dvd downloads do have chapter points, so you can skip forward or back easily (LIVES don't have chapters). No premixes though.

If I'm wrong, please correct.

 

[aqua girl]

it’s been years since I got dvd downloads, but back then, they did have chapter points
that showed up in my iPod touch. I assume the downloads now, still do. I don’t think
downloads have premixes, but maybe if there is “bonus” material with a particular
workout, you might get those with a download, I am not sure…maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!

 

[Debinmi]

maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!

Hopefully someone "in the know" will be brave enough to inform us. I've wondered about the bonus material too. [Really, there's only been one tirade (so far) & hopefully no more]

 

[KarininPA]

I very much appreciate that you can still purchase DVDs. The trend of companies not offering anything unless you sign up for a subscription has become more and more frustrating in recent years. I have exercise equipment and DVDs I have been using for more than 20 years. A one-time purchase is so much cheaper than 20 years of monthly fees, and I am glad that even though Cathe offers subscriptions, I can purchase even the Live workouts and use them without paying for a subscription (at least until I can no longer buy or service a device that plays them).

 

[KarininPA]

it’s been years since I got dvd downloads, but back then, they did have chapter points
that showed up in my iPod touch. I assume the downloads now, still do. I don’t think
downloads have premixes, but maybe if there is “bonus” material with a particular
workout, you might get those with a download, I am not sure…maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!

I often get downloads and DVDs, but have not figured out how to forward to a certain point on a download. The bonuses have come as a separate small download included with the purchase of the workout; you have to click on that one to download it in addition. I have not been able to play them as part of the workout; I would pause the main program, open the bonus and play it, then go back to the main program for remainder.

 

[Debinmi]

I often get downloads and DVDs, but have not figured out how to forward to a certain point on a download. The bonuses have come as a separate small download included with the purchase of the workout; you have to click on that one to download it in addition. I have not been able to play them as part of the workout; I would pause the main program, open the bonus and play it, then go back to the main program for remainder.

Thanks for sharing. Years ago, for the Shock Cardio series (2009 maybe), Cathe/SNM gifted us the downloads when we purchased the pre-sale on the dvds so we could try them out. I downloaded them, but never really used them except to preview the workouts because I prefer the dvds. I'm going to look them up this week and try them out for the chaptering - I don't think there was any bonus content tho.

 

[nckfitheart2009]

I have been ordering dvds and downloads for years. Downloads do not contain premixes. Premixes are customized workout, made by selecting various chapters/segments.

Bonuses are separated from workout. They are offered as segment, as workouts. They are literally chapters.

Tecs savvy make premixes by either subscribing to cathe on demand or by using external softwares. Another way of having premixes is simply purchase dvds as they contain premixes. With dvds, premixes are already made, ready to be played. Blending/customizing workouts requires time and skills.

Hope anyone wondering what a dvd has to offer get the answer to the question.

 

[aqua girl]

I thought the question was about downloads……

 

[aqua girl]

Years ago, for the Shock Cardio series (2009 maybe), Cathe/SNM gifted us the downloads when we purchased the pre-sale on the dvds so we could try them out.

Aahh, I had forgotten about that! I can't remember if I took advantage of that or not......
and that computer is long gone..........I don't think I did.............

 

[Debinmi]

I thought the question was about downloads……

That's correct - I think everyone has experience with dvds and those us who prefer dvds may have concerns about Cathe /SNM not producing them in the future. Hence the questions about downloads for those of us who don't want or cannot stream On-Demand.

Two Cathletes have confirmed you get the bonuses in a separate download chapter without having to pay extra for them. And NO premixes with downloads. Mixed responses on whether the chapters are easy to navigate - may be an equipment issue - not sure as I recall others saying they use software like Handbrake to create their own premixes. I'll need to investigate more as I use the Premixes a lot. Right now, I prefer DVDs. If they will no longer be produced, I'd probably do downloads & I need to know how simple it will be to skip back & forth through the chapters, or create my own premixes. I'm not interested in On-Demand at this time.

 

[aqua girl]

I would probably just continue to use OnDemand….for as long as I can…

 

[Debinmi]

I would probably just continue to use OnDemand….for as long as I can…

I think On-Demand with the blender is the bomb! But I have almost every dvd Cathe has produced, so for me it would be redundant. But I think anyone starting off, or who lives outside the USA, or doesn't have such a large collection would absolutely love On-Demand. I also think I'd become a bit obsessed with blending - I guess there's worse obsessions tho ... hee hee

 

[aqua girl]

Yep, you know I am a blender addict…. I recently deleted over 700 from my blender
library, but have added probably 20 or more since…... I deleted a lot of step only
workouts, as I don’t do step as often as I used to, and a lot of my older ones…. I keep
it only because of the blender, cause like you said, I have all of Cathe’s dvds, except
Terminator. I still have alot of the original VHS tapes too, some older ones were never
put on dvd…can’t part with them…..

 

[Debinmi]

. I still have alot of the original VHS tapes too, some older ones were never
put on dvd…can’t part with them…..

Chuckling .... I still have my old VHS workouts too. There're on a side-bookcase, but I can't make myself throw them out - too much sentimental value. They are all replaced with the updated dvd now. Most are step videos - I was late to Cathe's step workouts, maybe around year 2000 but when I discovered how fun her step was compared to others, I went back and got pretty much all that were available. I started buying her strength videos in the 1990's tho - she was one of the first who was serious about strength training.

 

[Lady Vol Fan]

Yes, I asked, (I'm not sure if anyone asked anything else up thread) and received the answer to my question regarding whether downloads of Cathe's releases included the premixes. I use premixes on her DVDs many times more than the actual workouts.

I was asking because of my concern whether she would continue to produce DVD content.

The price of the downloads isn't really all that different from the DVDs and, for me, doesn't include the value of the premixes. I'm not tech savvy enough to create my own premixes from the downloads.

The blender option with ondemand does sound like a great functionality but unfortunately somewhat useless for someone with crappy internet.

So will ride, or die, with my DVDs

 

[aqua girl]

If I never buy another dvd, I have more than enough to keep me satisfied . I didn’t even
mention all the Live downloads that I have purchased even tho’ I have Live w/OnDemand, probably 25-30, maybe more during the past few years…and with all the
new content that will be in LM&R, I think I am good to go!

 

[Debinmi]

So will ride, or die, with my DVDs

Cathe's DVDs are/were the best in the business. KCM came close when she used Greg or Cathe's studio to film & Greg started adding premixes to the dvds for her. Most of Greg's CIA workouts I have are on VHS, so I don't know if he had premixes on the later dvds. He still is, or was, involved in Cathe's productions. I hope Cathe/SNM continues to offer DVDs too.