I'm another one that ordered the day the presale started. September 16, 2005. It's been a long wait, but I have no doubt worth every minute. This was my first presale since I wasn't on the boards when the Hardcores were presaled and like a dummy, I didn't get the LIS/TBS DVDs when they were offered for $29.99. I ended up getting those later as well as everything else of Cathe's (just ordered CTX Xpress this week) except for S&H which will be ordered on my next preorder! I don't have BS/BF or High Step Circuit but don't feel the need to have those. LIS, with the premixes, is another story.