weight training and fat loss in 40s

novscout

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Hello.

Question about increasing my muscle mass after age 43. I have been fit and engaged in aerobics, weight training and dressage riding for 20 yrs. But now finding it tough to loose these 20 pounds that have come from no where. I am thinking I need to increase my free weights to more than 12 pound dumbbells. I notice Cathe uses much heavier weights.

I am looking for guidance as to how to shake up the routine and get off these FAT pounds! Low glycemic not working. Another program that has worked for others did not for me or my friend age 38. (dont want to say which online system cause I do believe it is GREAT but not working for me)

I think i have become metabolically resistant, plus hypothyroid is a factor.

Thanks for any advice!

Kathy
 
I hear ya about the pounds from nowhere! For some wonderfully hormonal/metabolic reason, I turned 34 and gained 10 pounds like that *snap!*. I was a dedicated FIRM user and remember thinking, "What the heck is this?!"

1. I would up the weights. I started with pretty light weights because I had been away from strength training for a while, but after 8 weeks, I'm bumping up the poundage.

2. Experiment to find what your daily caloric intake should be. This is a little frustrating because I think it's not only different for each person, it's different seasonally and changes as you age. Grrr. I'm currently playing with a range of 1400 - 1600 calories a day, spread out over 5-6 meals. I've lost 6 pounds and some inches, but I'm far from having my body figured out. I have a feeling I'll be tweaking things for at least a year.

3. Once you settle on a number, experiment with eating 3 meals vs. 5-6 meals a day. See if that makes any difference.

One of the veteran forum members made the comment that she's a Work in Progress, and I think that defines us all perfectly. :)
 
Hi Kathy:

At some point in our forties, I think we all reach this point. The moment when we finally have to acknowledge that what we used to do no longer has the same result. It just isn't enough any longer and we are forced to accept that we need to change our approach and activities.

See if you can grab hold of the new issue of Oxygen mag. It just hit the newsstands. I just read Robert Kennedy's post and normally, I avoid the man like the plague. I loathe him. But what he wrote today just made sense to me and was stated in his usual no-nonsense style.

Cardio gets your system in good working order. Weights shape and reshape your body. Nutrition and diet are the only thing that change your weight/help with fat loss.

I do not agree with this 100%, but about 70%. Still, I think once you hit your forties, it is truer than ever.

Estrogen levels are falling, our metabolism is slowing and the body wants to store fat. Fact is that as we age we do not need the same amount of calories as we used to, and our bodies are less forgiving than ever before of the alcohol we drink and the crappy food we might indulge in.

So we need to do several things. Really cut down on the crap and make sure that every meal is densely nutritious. Create a calorie deficit to lose pounds. Which means, since cutting calories slows the metabolism, creating more of a demand for energy by the body. Regular cardio sessions, and building muscle, since both of these activities will require calories, after the exercise, to repair the body and heavy weight training burns more calories after the training session than any other form of exercise.

Don't be afraid of heavier weights. They can't bite you! They can help reveal your curves and keep that waist fat tyre at bay! As the previous poster said, you just start tomorrow and keep at it, guided by the principle of progressive overload. You won't be using 20 pounds for bicep curls by next week, but in a few months you can be! I have been stronger this year than I was the previous 2 years, so age need not be a factor. What makes this work is progressive overload, slowly increasing the weights and consistency in your workouts. Write your workouts into your calendar every week so you are not tempted to miss them.

Start with total body workouts 2 or 3 times per week. After 2 months, say, change it up to 2 day splits, perhaps using Cathe's Pyramid workouts. Then, a few months later, change to 3 day splits, using Pure Strength and Gym Styles.

I have found that the best series to build real strength and lean muscle mass is the Slow & Heavy series. I can't rave about it enough. it also serves as a refresher course in good weight lifting form.

Don't forget also to change the type of cardio exercise that you do. If you don't kickbox, do this once per week. Do step another day. Bike or swim another day, etc. Also, change up the intensity of your cardio workouts. If you are casually watching TV while using a cardio machine, or reading the newspaper, chances are you are not working hard enough. Do one workout that is a steady state 45 min thing, but do interval training twice per week. Take yourself up to your anaerobic threshold, push yourself to see what you can really do. Train like this for a while and you will surprise yourself with how strong you can really be.

I never focus on weight. I don't own scales. What I do focus on is maintaining a high degree of fitness. My goal is constantly to increase my strength and lift heavy, more than before, and become a runner, a better runner. If you set yourself this kind of fitness challenge, it is more positive than simply demanding of yourself that you lose a certain amount of weight. Then, as you are busy achieving your goal, you will suddenly look down one day and realize you look different. Your body is leaner and tighter and while you have focused on fitness, the body has taken care of itself.

Good luck with your lifting,

Clare
 
Hello Clare,

thank you for the information. I agree with all you are saying. I started doing intervals about 5 weeks ago. And changing what type of routine with the weights. I have been relying on the numbers on my scale as my measure of progress; which includes water %, fat mass, and solid mass. THose percentages are not changing either. Ahhh well....

I have started to come to realization that those numbers may not change and I have to be content to more fit, more muscle, and healthy instead of expecting a weight loss.

The funny thing is I have not weighed this much in YEARS.... but I do not look like I did at that weight back 15 yrs ago. So the body IS different. Better.. more muscle...

It is frustrating though. Will try your thoughts recommendations.
I appreciate your responding!!

Best to you,
Kathy
 
Hello,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my message.
Interesting thing for the past 4 weeks while completing a different fat loss routine, I increased the protein amount daily to 120-140 grams a day. I cannot handle that much! Even with a clean diet.

I do thing we all metabolize differently. I also think the increase in calories was not wise either. Don't know if I have slowed metabolism that much that I need to stay under 1400 a day??

I have decided to eat when hungry, eat clean as possible (always have been pretty good with the NO JUNK)
And listen to what I need. Some days, crave protein. Other days, cannot stomach the thought of chicken.

I have discovered over the years that certain foods will make me gain weight. The same number of calories but with the wrong food for your body will not work! (for example, no wheat for me!!!)

Any thoughts on supplemental glutamine? Or Co Q 10? Was on medication that depletes body of Co Q 10 and I think I read something about this being important for metabolism too.
So i have added both to my diet. If for no other reason then they will contribute to overall health.

Thank you again,
Kathy
 
What an amazingly clear and encouraging post! This type of response is why I am so addicted to reading these forums. Clare, I am printing this out so I can read it a couple more times! Thank you.

Nita
 
OMG! It's not just me! I turned 40 in March & between January & April I gained 15 lbs! 15!!!!!!! In 4 months!!!!!!!! That's with constant dieting & exercising. I do 45-60 minutes of cardio 5-7 days a week, I have a heavy lifting routine 3 days a week (not total body, a 2 bodypart split), and core one day a week.

After 4 months of serious low carb & no results, I switched to low cal/low fat. I lost maybe 4 lbs in 2 weeks & then stopped--I'm convinced it was just water weight. I'm totally stumped! Is it just that my body decided now that I'm 40 I should carry an extra 10 lbs? This is driving me crazy! x(
 
Thanks Clare! I'm 41, having the exact same issues. I eat the "not-so-good" food that I've always eaten and always loved and it comes back two fold! I know more discipline is what I need - I'm doing P90X right now and can see tremendous definition in my arms...abs not so much due to the bad eating from time to time! Here lately it's all the time!

I have a question for you guys! I was doing downward dog and noticed while hanging upside down, the cellulite on top of my quads toward my inner thighs when my muscles were lose....do you guys ever notice that? I kept thinking, I need more water!!!! And I have no clue if that would even help at all!!!!:eek:

I believe we're all in this together!!!!;-)
 
Oh yeah, I get that ~ mystery cellulite that appears in downdog, disappears when I stand up. I don't know if my new exercise goals will take care of that or not, but now I just wear yoga pants instead of shorts. :7

I read in "Outsmarting The Midlife Fat Cell" that we should expect up to 10 lbs of additional weight due to estrogen shifts and our body's response to protect our heart and bones (not to mention skin & hair). Fair enough, but I just don't want to be soft and squishy. Or at least, not too soft and squishy.

The good news: Once menopause finally hits, many women drop that extra weight.

Has anyone experimented with periodizing cardio? I read something about it online ~ start with only 10 minutes of cardio while lifting heavy, then work up to 60 minutes of cardio over a period of time ~ and the fitness expert being interviewed felt this was way more effective than plugging away at 45-60 minutes of cardio constantly over a year. Just like with weight training, switching up the cardio kept the body guessing and responding.

I'm experimenting with it now ~ we'll see.
 
Okay LaughingWater - I'll do what I can, in the meantime....Bring It On Menopause...I'm wait---ing!!!!!:7 :7

I notice that my shorts keep getting longer too!!! It's funny how I find styles now that I "think" look good on me and five years ago you wouldn't catch me in them.:)

I've really enjoyed P90X but I can see the affect of hardly no cardio has had...or at least cardio like I was doing w/Cathe rotations! Let us know how the periodizing cardio goes!!!
 
Hi Ladies,

Kathy G. here. I was the 43 yr old with the weight gain at the top of the page. I am SOOOOOO thrilled to hear it is not just me.

as for the cellulite.. i find if i stop the chocolate... seriously.. my cellulite gets much better. so maybe there is some not so good food you could cut back and it might help

I too have tried the low carb, no carb, to no avail!!

I am BACK on birthcontrol pills. 2nd month into it. dont need them due to hubby if you know what i mean.. but I realized.. the ONLY time in my life not a struggle is when i was pregnant or prior to that when i was on the pill.. I first took the pill at age 37..

so i am trying this again. I know.. the MDs say it causes weight gain but if we are having lower estrogen levels will this help??
anyone else realize this?

P90X.. love it.. as for no cardio. There are fitness people that think we should only do weight training and no cardio.. or little.

Seriously? I think that applies to people who have never touched a weight. I cannot see how if i drop down to a 20 min routine 4 days a week with little or no cardio.. i am going to have to bod of my dreams. sure if you were a couch potato.

I flucuate between I am going to increase the weights and see what happens but i also know my peasant Polish decent body will bulk up big time. So then i think.. ok no weights only cardio. (did it for a month and lost 1 pound)

then i think heavy weights but only once a week. Is anyone familiar with female competative body builders. Know Monica Brant? remember when she was bigger? then she did less weights and went to fitness. (was it monica or someone else?) anyway.. there is the question. how much is enough and why is it not speeding up the metabolism and maybe I should just cut back.

thanks for listening.

Kathy G
 
>as for the cellulite.. i find if i stop the chocolate...

Cellulite?

Chocolate?

Cellulite?

Chocolate?

Chocolate.

Chocolate.

Chocolate...

Ladies and Gentleman, we have a winner!
 
I'm 53 and can't quite give up my bite of dark chocolate per day, even if I keep the cellulite!

IndyMom:D
 
Are you taking anything for hypothyroid? Some of the endocrine specialists are even prescribing thyroid when the thyroid level is low normal AND they are symptomatic. If you continue to have symptoms (are you fatigued also), then I would for sure check into it. Having low thyroid really does change your body.

Besides all of the other suggestions are you getting enough protein in your diet? And as you probably already know eating every 3-4 hours is important as well. This along with the weightlifting/cardio suggestions will help increase muscle mass and facilitate weight loss.
 
I'm hypothyroid. My doc doubled my synthroid dose about 5 weeks ago--said my thyroid was out of whack & she was a bit perturbed that I'd gained 8 lbs since my last visit w/her in March--and you know what? I still haven't lost a lb. :(

If it's not the thyroid, & it's not diabetes, & it's not my diet, & it's not that I need to exercise more, what else could it possibly be other than a metabolism change from getting older?
 
You're right LauraMax! If it isn't all that it would have to be the "40 and Over" explanation.

Mine is just plain ole diet (I thinkx(
I do so good through the week (for the most part) and the weekend it's like I have an "I deserve it" fest!!! Or feast!!!!}( Then I think, I deserve what, to eat bad for all the hard work I done.

I truly believe for me, if I'd really buckle down and eat very clean all week, including weekends, I'd see a huge difference. Question to myself is, will I do it? Maybe we need to start a 40 and over in the challenge forum. Would help us to eat better?
 
Hi,

I'm 48, a little older than most of you guys, but 2 summers ago I gained a slight layer of fat, mostly from eating too much chocolate on a vacation to New Zealand and probably it had been creeping up anyways. I did p90X and lost most of the abdominal fat in the 90 days, but I had to work my tail off to get that off (boardering overtraining). Since then, I've lost all of it and then some. It has taken me a lot of hard hard work by upping the ante on the intensity of my workouts and being very strict with my diet. For me it's low fat and almost no pasta, rice, white potatoes and very little bread.

I know it is different for everyone, but I guess my point is, for me, the normal intensity of workouts didn't work anymore. I try to percieve my rotations as maintenance or gains and workout accordingly because I can't maintain that type of intensity all of the time. I did p90x again last winter and dropped a little more. I'm currently doing X+ and I've dropped a little more of the stubborn outer thigh fat. (In between I've been using Cathe's lower body focused rotations, June 07, 4ds) The body weight exercises really seem to shock my system and send me to the next level. I can now do multiple pull ups and chin ups, but in the process I've gained lots of strength and muscle and I guess that is part of the fat loss (I don't own a scale). I've had to work sooo hard, that it is a serious unconscious motivator and I rarely depart from my current eating plan.

Tracy
 
I too, within the past two-three years, have piled on a bit of pudge around the midsection and the hip/buttock area that is quite dreary. For me, I didn't really have to make any substantial changes to my food intake (amount or type); although I am known to indulge in the occasional chocolate or Cheez-It or potato chip, I don't go ape over that kind of food.

What I did change, and this has had a great effect, is the type of cardio formats I do. I did get the sense that I was over-focusing on aqua, and cut that down to one session per week, and making that aqua much more leg intensive by working out more frequently in the extreme shallow end of my pool and going heavier on the jumps.

Also, in my land cardio, I increased the frequency of the weekly sessions, AND have noticed that the formats that produce the most sweat-factor (a good mix of power step with plyo work, step-free plyo work, and a good mix of high-flight high-impact and low-to-the-ground drills like line taps, plie jacks, plyo lunges etc.) also produce the most lean-out effects. I'd wager I've pared off a good inch or two off my trunk, and about the same off the thighs; doesn't totally erage the de trop but I'm getting there. I still very much enjoy interval work, but how the thigh muscles are recruited in each drill and the resultant sweat effect are things I very much pay attention to.

A-JOck
 
"I'm 53 and can't quite give up my bite of dark chocolate per day, even if I keep the cellulite!" ~ IndyMom

After reading a book on Superfoods, I started including one square of good dark chocolate a day in my diet. I had the cellulite long before that, so I'm thinkin' we can continue with our daily doses. :) (What I have stopped doing is baking so many chocolate chip cookies.)
 

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