Today I hate that morning jogger

I don't get why people have 1-starred this thread. Isn't that mean-spirited? I don't really agree with the OP either, but I see her point of view and don't think she deserves that--I mean, she got us engaged in a lively discussion.

Like others have said, I guess I really don't like the star rating system.

Amy
 
1 - ALL dogs bite given the right circumstances. Don't be naive.
2 - Does not matter WHERE you were. If the dog has access to public property, and YOU do not have TOTAL recall - the dog needs to be on leash. Period. End of sentence.
3 - It was NOT on private property. You do not own the street. See number 2
4 - Um - you dog is YOUR responsibility - not the joggers - I would not have stopped either. I would have assumed that since you were there, YOU would deal with YOUR dog.
5 - Your attitude is why there are so many bans on dogs in public. Thank you for making the ownership of my well trained, well behaved dog who would never chase a jogger even if he were off leash that much harder.

And if your dog came running right back when you called, why all the fuss to start with? Did you post this just to get people upset? If so, why? There's no need for such things.


I could have written this post! It's hard to believe that anyone could be so self-centered to think that the jogger is somehow wrong.

And, if you were kidding.....that is just plain strange to get people upset. Why stir up trouble the way a troll would??!!:mad:
 
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I have to say, the OP is dead wrong on this one. Cross logic at its best.

It's your responsibility to control your dog. Plain and simple.
 
Question: what does one starring a thread mean, I don't get that.

Secondly, just because you are rural, you should still restrain the dog. I have been chased by dogs on my bike out in the country. I don't stop, I peddle faster. If I were jogging, it depends. If I felt the dog would attack me if I did not stop and face him, then I would stop, but it is up to the owner to stop the dog from running two houses down, not the jogger. I don't blame her for not wanting to stop her exercise. Perhaps she had limited time, and it is YOUR responsibility, not hers.
 
I understand that letting a dog loose in your own yard seems harmless but unexpected things can happen. Having had a dog hit by a car, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Its been several years since my experience and even though mine did not get hit because I had let her out, it made a lasting impression. She got out of an enclosed yard, that we thought was secure. I'm now extremely cautious about letting my current dogs loose just because I don't know what will spook them or tempt them. Even the best trained dog can become distracted or spooked and run after or away from something. If it is distracted or spooked, its not going to care about cars and has the potential for being hit. My current golden spooked one time at a bicyclist and pulled the leash right out of my hand and was so scare should could barely listen to me let alone mind me. So I know things can happen. I don't wish the experience I went through with the one that got hit to happen to anyone else. She survived, but had 3 very expensive surgeries over a six month period and the last one was amputation of her hind leg. So please (all dog owners) be cautious with your pets. You don't let your children run around so they can get close to the street and you shouldn't let your pets either.
 
Sorry Donna but I have to agree with the majority vote here. Cricket may be harmless to you but the jogger is not aware of that fact. I've been intimidated by a few dogs while walking both with my dogs and while alone..it's not a fun experience.

This topic got me thinking about a tragic incident that happened last year in a neighboring town. A woman was out of town and had a teenage neighbor boy dog sitting for her. The dogs ran out and got away from him (they lived in a rural area, country dirt roads). The dogs viciously mawled and killed two people. One woman, a wife and mother, who was jogging down the road and an elderly man in his 80's who was working in his vegetable garden. It was just a horribly sad story. :(

I recall reading part of the dog owners' statement in court and she said that she was sorry and had no idea that her dogs were capable of doing something like that. It just goes to show that dogs can be very unpredictable.

Donna,I'm not implying that Cricket would ever be this vicious. Just wanted to show that crazy, tragic "accidents" happen..you never know.
 
dorothyrd:Question: what does one starring a thread mean, I don't get that.


Because apparently it was a joke i'm guessing to "get you guys going." maybe whoever rated it 1 star felt there is enough strife in the forums.


HA! I knew I'd get you guys going! :)

Cricket didn't chase her, she came back as soon as I called. Her new training is going great and she listens very well now. That said...I'm rural, not in a development, and the house is not close to the road. If it were, I wouldn't let her off leash. And FWIW, I would definitely have stopped if somebody's dog was trying to join the fun.



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1 - ALL dogs bite given the right circumstances. Don't be naive.
2 - Does not matter WHERE you were. If the dog has access to public property, and YOU do not have TOTAL recall - the dog needs to be on leash. Period. End of sentence.
3 - It was NOT on private property. You do not own the street. See number 2
4 - Um - you dog is YOUR responsibility - not the joggers - I would not have stopped either. I would have assumed that since you were there, YOU would deal with YOUR dog.
5 - Your attitude is why there are so many bans on dogs in public. Thank you for making the ownership of my well trained, well behaved dog who would never chase a jogger even if he were off leash that much harder.

And if your dog came running right back when you called, why all the fuss to start with? Did you post this just to get people upset? If so, why? There's no need for such things.

I COMPLETELY agree with Christine.

As one of those joggers you probably HATE....let's see...

1. I have been chased by a small dog that jumped up on my leg as I ran, I did not know until I got home he had bit me. I had to call the owner (Yeah, he was not leashed) to find out if he had his rabies shots. Thank god he did.

2. I was out running one day with my dog for protection, out comes another unleashed dog and BITES my dog. Yeah, he won't bite.

3. I made the mistake of yelling at an owner of a dog once as the dog aggressively chased me. I said "Please keep your dog controlled or the next time I will pepper spray him". The owner got in his truck, tracked me down and threatened me, saying I could not run there, and if I continued to he would "take care of me". Well...it was public property. Sadly I would not run there anymore as he scared me.

So as Christine said if you posted this to upset people...JOB WELL DONE!
 
Good gosh!

Sorry Donna but I have to agree with the majority vote here. Cricket may be harmless to you but the jogger is not aware of that fact. I've been intimidated by a few dogs while walking both with my dogs and while alone..it's not a fun experience.

This topic got me thinking about a tragic incident that happened last year in a neighboring town. A woman was out of town and had a teenage neighbor boy dog sitting for her. The dogs ran out and got away from him (they lived in a rural area, country dirt roads). The dogs viciously mawled and killed two people. One woman, a wife and mother, who was jogging down the road and an elderly man in his 80's who was working in his vegetable garden. It was just a horribly sad story. :(

I recall reading part of the dog owners' statement in court and she said that she was sorry and had no idea that her dogs were capable of doing something like that. It just goes to show that dogs can be very unpredictable.

Donna,I'm not implying that Cricket would ever be this vicious. Just wanted to show that crazy, tragic "accidents" happen..you never know.

That is tragic. That is exactly what I am afraid of too. There are many dogs in my neighborhood and they all seem well behaved, well cared for, and obedient, but you never really know. There are people in our neighborhood who refuse to leash their dogs. My father yells at them. It makes him very nervous and I can't blame him. Not that my father would intentionally hurt an animal, but he does take a big walking stick with him when he does go to parks or out for walks.
 
I am not sure what to make of this post.

I am a runner and there are streets I will no longer run on because there are dogs that have chased me, or nipped and my ankles or are just plain threatening me.

If I run early in the morning, I do a HIIT run because there are so few people out and I feel comfortable doing that kind of workout since it really is a strange workout for other people to watch. So when a dog chases me, even if the owner is in the front yard, I stop and run back to their yard so they can regain control of their dog. Of course, this completely negates the HIIT interval at that moment.

I am running on the streets which is public property and am bothering nobody but I am sorry, when a dog runs off their private property and chases me, THEY are bothering ME>

So I am with the majority here and agreeing with the "keep your dog in your control and do not make the runner responsible for your dog's actions" but then the post came across saying "I knew I would get you going." :confused::confused:

Again, I like others, did not get this "joke"?????......
 
To get us going? Am I missing something?

This is what the OP said after she took some heat

HA! I knew I'd get you guys going! :)

Cricket didn't chase her, she came back as soon as I called. Her new training is going great and she listens very well now. That said...I'm rural, not in a development, and the house is not close to the road. If it were, I wouldn't let her off leash. And FWIW, I would definitely have stopped if somebody's dog was trying to join the fun.
 
I'm sorry, but this is just irresponsible.

I am a HUGE dog lover. My Porter is my baby. And many times, my running parter on a leash.

I am a runner and I have been chased, knocked over and bitten by dogs when running. For over a year, I ran only on the frontage road along the highway, dealing with truckers honking :mad: and missing the beauty of the mountains and trees and flowers... rather than face loose dogs on my runs.

Now I choose to run on frigid days hoping that people won't be out walking their dogs because it's too cold. Or I scan way ahead and change my route if I see someone anywhere with a dog off leash.

The worst was the time I was bit by a lady's schnauzer... luckily it was cold and I was wearing layers and it didn't break the skin. She didn't say a word. Just kept walking. And the time I was knocked down by two 100+ lb. dogs, the owners did not apologize but laughed! :confused: I walked home shaken and covered in slobber.

What do you mean "to get us going"? I'm confused... and a bit riled.

Becky
 
Another runner here who has been chased. Count me among those who do not appreciate irresponsible dog owners. In one incident, I *had* to stop because the Doberman had my hand clamped in its teeth. Talk about terrifying! When I encounter strange, loose dogs—having NO IDEA what they’re going to do—my first priority is my own safety and creating distance between the dog and me. Thanks to the owner, I’m not only inconvenienced, I’m scared as hell! If anything, s/he owes ME an apology, not the expectation that I’m going to escort his dog back to him.
 

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