The vegan appreciation thread!

Ahhh I love my fellow veggies. Well, I love everyone here lol! I've been nearly vegan for quite some time now. I occasionally eat cheese or a baked good made with eggs. Lately, I have found that my stomach bugs me after I have any dairy. It could be coincidental, but I suspect a connection. I think I am finally ready to plunge into full veganism.

Oh- and I haven't been sick once in over three years since going veg. Now that's an added bonus, right lol?
 
This made me laugh - we have a neighbor who refers to herself
>as a vegetarian. However, she regularly eats fish, turkey,
>chicken and pork. What is up with that?!? Basically, she
>avoids red meat - that's it. But, she's "a vegetarian."
>
>Yeah. Right. If you say so! :)
>
>m.

Yeah, whoever invented the terms "pollo-vegetarian" and "pesco-vegetarian" should be whipped with wet soba noodles (I remember seeing those terms used to refer to "basically vegetarian, but WITH THE ADDITION OF chicken or fish" back in the early 80's. Then they slowly were coopted into a 'type of vegetarianism."

Makes as much sense as being a "bovi-vegetarian" or "porci-vegetarian"(or your neighbor who would be a "pollo-pesco-porci vegetarian." And watch out if an "anthropo-vegetarian" invites you over "for dinner.";-)
 
I'm pollopescoboviporcianthropo confused in this thread, but entertained :D and actually learning some things, I think?.
 
Oh.........how I wish I could be vegan. I'm THIS close to vegetarian but can't seem to make even that final commitment. I love reading this thread!x( x(
 
Neat thread.

I went vegan about 5-6 months ago after doing quite a bit of reading (wonderful recommendations from Carole and Kathryn..I still can never thank you two enough :) ). I must admit I have to work to keep weight on, but I feel wonderful and I know in some small way I am doing some good.

Being Vegan isn't easy for me only because my DH is still totally against it. ("It is the only thing he doesn't like about our marriage.") He still says there wasn't anything wrong with my diet before, yet he absolutely refuses to read or watch anything to the contrary. We've always eaten different meals at mealtime....even when I wasn't Vegan... so that hasn't changed, but I would be less than honest if I didn't say I wasn't saddened that it really "bothers" him. Don't worry, I won't be changing my diet simply because it doesn't please him (I am my own person ...and I like being able to pass the cows in the pasture and smile at them on a daily basis)....but I do fully understand those who cannot make the change due to family pressures. I figure, eventually my DH will adjust because I'm not going to change ....and to some, it may seem silly, but I really do need to be able to wink at the cows every day with a clear conscience. ;-)

Robin
 
I just finished reading "The Food Revolution" and, although I originally leaned towards a vegetarian diet for health reasons, the ethical reasons are astronomical and just might be more important. I can smile at cows with a clear conscience but I still can't look a chicken directly in the eye. Oh....maybe someday.x(
 
Nancy...The Food Revolution was the 2nd book I read and it did help me with the ethical reasons. A quote from another book was "If slaughterhouses had glass walls we would all be vegetarians". Two other books I loved came from this site http://www.madcowboy.com/ Howard is like a 3rd generation cattle rancher gone Vegan. Very good site if veganism interests you...:)

Robin...I am glad I could help with you going Vegan. I am sorry about your DH and maybe in time..:)...My DH is very easy going about food. He is more vegetarian eating some dairy. Like I said in your other thread I do get some family pressures. It has been 2 years now, and you think they'd somehow get the clue. I don't preach unless provoked...:)
 
> I like being
>able to pass the cows in the pasture and smile at them on a
>daily basis)....but I do fully understand those who cannot
>make the change due to family pressures. ..to
>some, it may seem silly, but I really do need to be able to
>wink at the cows every day with a clear conscience. ;-)


I know what you mean, Robin. I think being vegan allows you to have a relationship with animals that isn't tainted by the "at any moment, you amy become my meal" dynamic that always implies a certain distance.
 
Just wanted to thank everyone on this thread for the helpful tips and tricks. I am on the way to vegan eating and have already experienced one of the benefits of this eating plan by having a lowered cholestrol within 2 weeks of modifying (I have been on it as much as possible for about a month and a half but went on a business conference and had a bit of problem with the meals they provided).

I still eat the fish and eggs (want to get my HDL up higher and eggs do that well) but that may change once I get used to adding some beans and learning how to cook so I really needed some of the ideas presented here!

Sheilarae
 
i am not vegan or vegetarian, although i do think i could be vegetarian if i put more effort into it. i get overwhelmed at the thought of being vegan, though. would any of you mind posting a typical day's menu? including snacks? i don't think i'm educated on the subject enough, so i've always been part of the "too little to eat" camp when i think vegan. i'd love to learn more about it :)
 
> i get overwhelmed at
>the thought of being vegan, though. would any of you mind
>posting a typical day's menu? including snacks? i don't
>think i'm educated on the subject enough, so i've always been
>part of the "too little to eat" camp when i think vegan. i'd
>love to learn more about it :)

There is SO much to eat when you're vegan if you look at it from the perspective of how many edible plants there are on Earth. (Looking at a restaurant menu, though, will often give you a 'there's nothing to eat" feeling!). Think outside the box, and look towards other cultures. Chinese stir-fries, mid-Eastern falafel and tabouleh, italian pastas and sauces, etc.

Also think of your favorite non-vegan foods and how you can veganize them.

Some typical food choices that I make(not all on the same day!). There are many types of vegans, so what appeals to one person might not appeal to another. Some rely heavily on meat analogs, like veggie "ham" and "chicken" slices, or veggie "burgers" and "hot dogs." Others tend more towards raw foods with an emphasis on greens and fruits. Others like a mix of international foods. Others are vegan junk fooders (probably one of the worst diets you can have!):

Breakfast:
Morning smoothie with either Vega meal replacement or my own mix of hemp protein powder, greens supplement, maca powder, blue-green algae and mangosteen (antiinflammatory), ground flax and frozen strawberries.

Steel cut oats with soy or rice milk, a touch of real maple syrup, ground flax, and maybe some chopped nuts and dried fruit or fresh blueberries. (Steel cut oats take longer to cook, but by making a large batch, you can save some for the next 2-3 days, chop it up, add non-dairy milk of your choice and microwave it to get a yummy, tasty cereal).

Ready-to-eat cereal with soy or rice milk.

More "traditional American" option: soy breakfast sausages with scrambled tofu and toasted sprouted grain bread.


Lunch/Dinner:
Mixed salad (no iceberg lettuce, but lots of dark lettuces, red pepper, avocado, sunflower seeds, cucumbers, other colored veggies) and an optional splash of vinegrette. OR bean salad with a variety of rinsed canned organic beans (garbanzos, black soy, kidney, green), pimentos, artichoke hearts, sliced black olives, anda splash of italian dressing, served on a bed of lettuce.

Tempeh mock 'chicken-or-the-egg' salad or as a sandwich filling.

Microwaved yam and/or lentil soup and/or sandwich made from 1/2 avocado mashed in between two slices of hemp and sprouted grain bread.

Stir-fried (in either cooking sherry or mirin---Japanese cooking sherry---and a splash of olive oil) veggies like zucchni, red pepper, onions, mushrooms, with either tofu or tempeh or seitan (or a combo) added.

A cooked grain like quinoa (good protein) or millet with veggies (to make a pilaf).

Snacks:
P.B or other nut butter spread on sprouted grain buns.

Raw nuts (soaked overnight to activate their enzymes, then dried before eating. Almonds soaked in this way taste a bit like cocoanut).

Fruits like apples and pears (low glycemic).

A green drink (green foods powder mixed with lemon juice and a sweetener, usually stevia...I've evolved to enjoy this type of thing, but would not have years ago).

1/2 avocado.

Hummus with raw veggies.

Larabars (raw vegan food bars with a maximum of 5 ingredients--most have 2-3---including dried fruits and nuts).

Vega bars (raw food, hemp-based bars).

Vegan Food bars (another raw food vegan bar).
 
Thanks, Carole, for the website recommendation! What were the two books you were referring to? I can't seem to read enough on this topic lately! Maybe the more I read, the easier it will become. Thanks!! Nancy
 
> i get overwhelmed at
>the thought of being vegan, though. would any of you mind
>posting a typical day's menu? including snacks? i don't
>think i'm educated on the subject enough, so i've always been
>part of the "too little to eat" camp when i think vegan. i'd
>love to learn more about it

I wanted to add to what Kathryn said. I'm not vegetarian, but I do try to eat much less meat (no more than 2-3 times a week total). I gave up meat for Lent, so this is relatively new to me. When I gave up meat, I, too, was concerned about what I could make - especially what I could make that my kids would eat! To my surprise, it was actually easy. Now I like to cook. And cooking vegetarian, for the most part, is faster. And if you don't mind using your imagination, you can get really creative. For example, every Friday I have a "Clean out the Fridge Pasta". I use whole wheat pasta, and then go into the veggie drawer of my fridge and dig out the veggies I haven't used. Chop them up with onion and garlic, and saute in some oil. Add tomatoes, tomato paste, a touch of wine for flavoring, and some basil. When it's done, I add some red pepper for a touch of spice, and serve it. I sometimes add cannelini beans, or chick peas. It's fabulous. Or I make veggie wraps - brown rice, mushrooms, red pepper, kidney beans, corn, green onion, and garlic. Serve in tortillas of your choice, and a little salsa on the side (non vegan - a touch of cheese and sour cream). The kids LOVE both of these - better than their meat varieties. The Internet is an amazing resource for recipes and ideas. And so many recipes are adaptable.
 
Christine, you have made my stomach growl!!!

I, too, found the switch amazingly easy. The hardest part has been going out to eat with DH. I generally have ended up ordering fish and even that tastes strange after a few weeks of no meat.

I have felt more alert, my body is somehow happier, and I have no guilt over what I have just eaten!!! That alone is worth it for me.
 
Okay-Here's my story.
I became vegetarian around 16 or 17. Pregnant at 21, I was sick with a kidney infection 7 months pregnant, visiting my mother. She was out for the day. I was really hungry and the only thing to eat in her house was 1/2 a turkey sandwich. I ate it and I loved it. I continued eating chicken and turkey for another 4 years, also adding in some fish. Then I read Marilu Henner's Total Health Makeover and dropped the meat,fish and dairy immediately. A few months later, tried raw foods for about 2 months, I loved it. I live in nyc and was evacuated from my home on Sept 11,2001. I lived 2 blocks from the WTC. I lived with friends and then in a hotel and then in a temporary apartment. It was very hard for me to continue with my raw foods diet and I went back to veganism. I also went to cooking school,( vegetarian oriented). Anyways, over the past few years, dairy has come back into my life. I love it, but I hate it. I know it's why I've gained back weight and also why it's hard for me to lose it. I eat chocolate chip cookies from the bakery at WHole Foods, pizza, ice cream and cheddar cheese slices. I know this stuff is CRAP! It's just 4 things, but the hardest for me to eliminate from my diet, especially because hubby is always buying it, and he and the kids eat it. After reading this thread, I really want to go back to my old vegan ways, it's hard, but I will take it one day at a time.
 
One day at a time is all you can do and not worry too much.
Just do the best you can and have no guilt.

I am enjoying mostly vegan diet choices. My only non-vegan choices are occasional seafood. Therefore I don't call myself a true vegan or vegetarian. It is not important to me to fit into any particular food category, but I prefer to make good healthy choices. My choices are pretty much clean and simply prepared.

This way of eating has helped me uncover muscle that has been hiding behind fat for ever. In fact, DH has said just this morning that he has never seen seen my body so cut. I have been enjoying this way of eatind since late Februrary.

Judy "Likes2bfit"


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