The difference between men and women

Jasmin416

Cathlete
Does your SO know how to calm you when you are upset? Do they know the right things to say or how to handle you?

I think the guy I'm with is great in a lot of ways but when I'm really overwhelmed and in tears over something he just kind of looks like a deer caught in the headlights as to how to handle the situation. Its frustrating to me because I evaluate everything heavily because I want to know if I'm with the right person for marriage in the future. Is this a guy thing or are some guys just better than others in this area? Is it unreasonable for me to want to be with a man who knows just how to comfort me?
 
I was married to an amazing man, and we are still friends. (No longer married though). When I was down, or sad, or mad at the world, whatever, he was there for me. He would hold me, try to make me laugh, inspire me, just listen, whatever. One day, he made poster things out of that connected dot matrix paper -so they were really long - and hung then all over, floor to ceiling, b/c he knew I had had a really bad day at work. Unfortunately, there were other problems we had and we didn't stay together but to this day, when I need somebody, I go to him if I can. I am remarried and he basically sucks when it comes to comforting me. He just won't do it - it scares him or something. Says he doesn't know what to do. I basically get ignored. If it is something particularly bad that goes on for a few days (like when my dear cat passed away), he will finally say something like "Look, I just don't know what to do." Telling him, though, does no good. You would think just holding me when I am in bed, crying, would be obvious, but it isn't. He faces the other way, per usual, and goes to sleep. I guess the only consolation I have is that I know he loves me and is just so uncomfortable that he doesn't know what to do. My dad wasn't the best at showing emotion, but my word, he is a sap compared to my husband now.

I say all of this to say...even though my first husband was amazing at this part of our lives, we didn't work out for other reasons. DH now blows at any sort of emotional anything (I hope that your SO is able to provide you at least some emotional support and physical closeness) but we are good together in other ways. I miss the affection and sharing of emotions, but like I said, it works in other ways. Just weigh what is most important to you. My life now is very comfortable - we do good for ourselves, we are both very independent, he travels during the week and on weekends, he does his own thing. It gets lonely, but I'm not going anywhere b/c it is still good and we are very strong in some parts of our lives together. You just don't want to look back and miss having somebody support you emotionally. Have you talked to him about it, and told him what you need? Would he consider counseling? I wish you the best. Just talk to him and make yourself vulnerable, tell him exactly step by step what you need. If he just can't do it, then you will know that and weigh your options. The ironic thing is that I sucked at it with my first husband. He was the one missing out. I told him that I wanted to learn and he taught me what he needed and really helped me open up with myself, and also to be there for him.
 
Is it unreasonable for me to want to be with a man who knows just how to comfort me?

IMO, yes, it is unreasonable to assume he will "just know" how to comfort you. No one, man or woman, is a mind reader and assuming that they'll always know the perfect thing to say/do just when you need it isn't realistic.

Being able to to tell someone what you need is part of the MUTUAL communication process. My guess is that the "deer in the headlights" reaction is a fear of doing the wrong thing and making it worse. Tell him what you want/need, and if he sincerely tries to do that, then you have winner.
 
I'm right there with you on this one. My SO is also fabulous in so many ways, and while he claims to be an expressive, emotional person - he's not. It hurts, actually, that he can see that I am so unhappy/depressed/sad/frustrated/etc and not feel inclined to even acknowledge it. If I'm not in a good place, he simply ignores me and won't deal with anything I'm going through.

My dad is exactly the same way, though, and my mom has been dealing with that for years. And it's not that they don't love us, and as a matter of fact do so much, but those little things really do mean a lot sometimes. Knowing that you are emotionally supported is such a comforting feeling in life, and I don't have that right now.

I grapple with the same feelings about whether or not this is such a vital thing. As of yet, I'm not sure. I think that's why good friends are so important, and I don't have that support either. Ahh... life :)

Sara
 
I think a LOT of men are like this. Not that there aren't those who are wonderful at handling women's emotions, but I've never personally met one. ;) My DH has the "deer in the headlight" look perfected. He had no idea what to say and no manner of coaching has helped improve this over the years. He just doesn't deal well with me being upset. So I basically deal with stuff on my own. My mom overreacts to EVERYTHING, so she is no help either. I wish DH would be a little more "comforting", but he has a lot of other good qualities that make up for it. :) It's not a "breaking point" issue for me.
 
My dh is mr tuff guy and I wonder if he has any emotions at times. He acts like crying or showing too much emotion is a sign of weakness. Hes also army so thats part of it I think. I've tried to beat that out of his head. He tends to make things worse when I'm upset by ridiculing me that I'm crying. like "oh now your going to cry?" yep. my dh is great in alotta ways but this is one thing I deal with too. I've become tuff as nails I guess because of it but I don't think thats a good thing for our relationship. I've only seen him cry once and that was because his good buddy died in his arms in afghanistan.
well anyway. I think I'd rather him just not know what to do to comfort me than to not really even want to. maybe your SO will come around. I'm still waiting for mine to.
 
Jasmin - After reading your post about your boyfriend smacking your kitten, my advice is to just cut him loose and move on.
 
I think there is a difference between a man who wants to be comforting but maybe doesn't know what to say or do, and a man who couldn't care less and walks out coldly or makes fun of you for being emotional. DH has no sisters, and came from a loving but unexpressive family, so when he met me, with my crying at the drop of a hat, he was stunned, to say the least. As Gayle says, once I told him what I needed in those moments, he was able to be there in a more productive way. :) And, he's been able to express more of his emotions as well.

Sparrow
 
This type of question always makes me look back at the things pointed out in Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.

I think a good deal of men are not intuitive when it comes to women's emotions and what they need. Some of us just want comfort and nothing else, or someone to listen. Most men are different.

My DH is not always the most adept at knowing my mind, but he knows the signs when something isn't setting well with me. He knows when not to push me, when to let it drop, or if I seem depressed or aloof, he will ask if there is anything wrong. Now if I really want a hug or some other comfort - I know I need to go "get it". He will just leave me be if I say there isn't anything wrong.

I have realized many men need to be told exactly what to do - and we need to ask if it is what we want. I don't think either gender should need to be a mind reader - we should communicate as partners.

Just my .02 (or .05 if you add in inflation !) :eek:
 

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