Stupid deadlifts!

MidgetDogg

Cathlete
I did the first Legs workout of Meso 2 yesterday and really dug it. The one problem I'm having is with the deadlifts. The weight my legs can handle is too much for my forearms. I got through the first set OK, but had to put the barbell down after 7 reps on the 2md & 3rd.

Is it better for me to lower the weight on the barbell to one my little arms can handle, or do as many as I can with the weight that is appropriate for my legs? I certainly don't want that bar slipping out of my hands - I don't know if my homeowner's insurance would cover that!
 
Tough problem to have! Here's some suggestions: Train safely. Maybe try to pre-fatigue your legs so when you lighten up on the weights, you still get a good workout. Finally, strengthen your forearms. Work on the bicep reverse curls (with whatever weight feels good - these are tough even at 10's), also do the wrist curls (wrists hang over your knees when you are sitting down and try 8's, 10's). These are all Cathe exercises so you can look them up.

After doing STS all the way through a few times over the last couple of years, the last time I finished the Meso 3 weights didnt affect my forearms at all and believe me I WAS HAPPY:p

Good luck!
 
Lifting safely - which to me means avoiding damaging the floor as well as the body - really has to come first! You may have to add reps to increase the challenge, or split your set up into multiple sets to rest them, depending on which is most comfortable for the rest of your body ...


Or ... I don't know how you feel about using equipment to help with your forearms, but I've personally found that the VersaGripps are the solution to my strong legs/weaker forewarms problem. For squats, I usually can manage in Mesos 1 and 2 by shifting 40 pounds of the weight to a weighted vest, but that won't work for deadlifts. The VersaGripps enable me to hold at least 50 pounds more than my unaided forearms can manage. I have been using them for about a year now, and love them.

Some people use hooks to accomplish the same thing (special weight lifting hooks), but I really prefer the Gripps. They take awhile to figure out, but I'd never give them up now.

One thing, I only let myself use the Gripps on Mesos 2 and 3 for deadlifts, and only on Meso 3 for squats. That's because I *do* want to increase my forewarm strength! That approach seems to be working.
 
Another suggestion would be to get some Versa Grips just to use for deadlifts until your forearms get stronger. Keep lifting everything else without them and follow the advice as above. You will find that they strengthen and then you shouldn't need the assistance of the Versa Grips - at least not until your weight goes up again!
 
Back & biceps

Funny- Cathe pretty much answered this question in the B&B workout.... Basically, "suck it up and do it, wimp!"
 
Hi Midget -

I kind of doubt Cathe meant it that way, right? :D There is nothing wimpy about having one part of the body significantly stronger than another, and wanting to work both out to full capacity :D So don't feel badly about it. It would be pretty funny if each of us were perfectly symmetric that way, wouldn't it! Some part or other always seems to need to catch up ...

Myself, the VersaGripps make great sense, and I think you'll like them too as long as you don't mind using additional equipment as a support (some people don't like anything like that). Swollen forearms are an especially bad idea for me personally in any case, as my cancer treatments left me at higher risk for lymphedema and pushing forearms too hard could potentially trigger that condition. I choose to use them so that my legs/back can get stronger at their faster pace, and let my forearms get stronger at a slower pace. It lets them rest longer, which over time may actually wind up in faster strength gains and fewer injuries, both of which I like :D I'm now up to able to lift 100 pound bars with no difficulties without the Gripps, even in Meso 1 for many reps, and can lift 150 pounds using the Gripps ... when I started using them it was the 100 pound lift that I couldn't quite manage to hang on to for more than a few reps, so the lift is still helping you improve your forearm strength. At least it was that way for me.

If you pick up the Gripps, one thing I noticed is that several of us took awhile to figure out how to put them on/use them. You'll see what I mean when you get them unless you are one of the lucky ones who find them intuitive. There are postings here somewhere explaining how to 'wrap' the grip around the bar to achieve the result you're looking for. Here's where I got mine: http://www.versagripps.com/ . There are pictures on the site showing how you hold a bar using the grips. It amazes me still how well these work!


Good luck and congrats on having such strong legs!
 
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Thanks, of course I know she didn't mean it the way I posted it. I'm really not sure about getting the grips now that I've seen the price. I don't know how much use I'd get out of them. Single mom with a mortgage and school shopping around the corner.... Sigh.

I don't know if I'd classify my legs as "strong", just stronger than my forearms. Lol
 
Just thought of something - though I don't know if it would help - in some workout or another I remember Cathe augmenting a weight by using a band. Basically, instead of putting extra weight on a bar she used additional tension from a stretchy band to increase the difficulty level. It isn't exactly the same as Meso 3 with precisely predicted weights, and you'd need to think through the safety aspect, but it might be a way to add resistance without wearing out your forearms. For me the problem literally is hanging on to that much weight.

I hear you on the price! It was a big gulp when I bought mine, and two more when they arrived I saw how small they were :) But, they are a piece of fitness equipment that seems to last and really helps me, for whatever that is worth. I'd hoped to find them used or from a generic manufactuer but no such luck.
 
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Along with Versa grips or something similar (like calcium carbonate chalk), you can try using a reverse grip (which is often used when doing full deadlifts, to reduce the chance of the bar slipping). Basically, one hand is supinated (with palm forward) and the other is pronated (palm facing back). Switch the position of the hands for alternating sets.
 
google on lifting straps or weightlifting straps. They are a lot less expensive than versa grips.
 
I have the hooks and they work well for me. I see the straps are well reviewed and are less than $8.00 through Amazon.
 

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