Raw Food Diet

baylian

Cathlete
Anyone ever try it or know of someone who tried it?

It interests me - from many standpoints - weight loss, well being and cancer.

IMHO - many of the cancers today are caused by the over processing and preservatives of and in our food.

Please don't flame - just looking for thoughts.
 
Funny you should mention this diet/way of life. I'm actually reading Ani's Raw Food Kitchen right now and hoping to convert to raw for the many reasons. Cancer being the main one. Cancer runs in my family and if I can do anything from having it happen to me then I better get on the ball. I'm 36 and from what I read I can make all new cells in 7 years. Hopefully ones that are strong enough to fight my genetic markers. All the points for eating raw are very valid IMO. It does look like it will take some work to get use to the process of dehydrating and making eveything daily as oppose to opening up a box or cracking an egg. I may go 1/2 raw at first and hope to convet to all Raw. Carol ALT also has a Raw food book out that I have on reserve at the library.
 
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I have experimented with raw off and on for several years. I find that 1/2 raw is a good place to settle at for me.

100% raw can be challenging. I think physically I wasn't absorbing all the nutrients I needed and was turned off by a lot of recommendations to add supplements to your diet. In practical terms - it can be time consuming to dehydrate, juice, sprout, etc.

I LOVE to eat raw food though! I have Ani's book and both of Carol Alt's as well as a collection of others. I also go to a raw food restaurant regularly and love their food.

Some raw foodists eat animal products in their raw state (Carol Alt eats sushi, raw beef, unpastuerized milk, raw milk cheeses). I found a source for raw milk/cream/butter, etc. near here (it's a complicated process in Illinois because it is technically illegal to sell raw milk) but it was very expensive. They also sold chicken ceviche (raw chicken salad) which I was not interested in!

I think a more moderate approach to start with might be a vegan or vegetarian diet with 50% raw and see how you feel after a few months.
 
There is also a book called Raw Food Detox that is interesting. It allows you to go to Raw in increments if you choose, or just to implement parts of it into your life, either permanently or for a short amount of time. Talks also about mixing foods - some do not mix well in your stomach, according to the author, and this inhibits digestion and causes problems.
 
Thanks for the response! I have Ani's book also - along with Rawvolution by Matt Amsden, Raw Food Detox Diet by Natalia Rose, Raw Food/Real World by Matthew Kenny and Sarma Melngailia and Living on Live Food by Alissa Cohen. Alissa has a great website with a a forum that I go to quite a bit - www.alissacohen.com and www.rawfoodtalk.com. She also does a 30 day raw food challenge at the beginning of every month. I would love to do it but am going on vacation in the islands and will need food and beer and Bushwackers. tehehe.

I ordered a dehydrator two days ago from www.rawfoodlife.com. I am itching for a vitamix blender but will wait. I have a juicer also that I love - so does my son. He will go through a bag of oranges in a heartbeat.

I took have cancer history - mother/breast cancer (d. 1992), father - squamous cell carcinoma (d. Jan 17, 09) and my grandmother who died of cervical cancer. I have had the hysterectomy (fibroid tumors) 5 years ago and everything is out including ovaries.

This whole subject has intrigued me.
 
I changed my diet to about 70 -80 % raw after I was diagnosed with cancer. I decided to forgo conventional treatments and my doctor is a Naturopathic Oncologist, so treatment is heavily based on nutrition and I now eat mostly plant based and raw food, a variety of fruit or veggie or fresh juice from vegetables or fruit. I have not cut out dairy totally but it is limited to 1 serving per day, my proteins are limited to organic lean chicken and fish, grains and legumes or protein powder (the only brand that is approved by my doctor).

It has made a huge difference in my energy level and I do think it helped me recover as fast as I did from surgery.

I noticed this past week my eating deviated a from what I have been eating over the past couple of months. We have family in town and ate out at restaurants a lot more, not that I ate junk food, just a lot less raw food, didn't drink my veggie juice and sure enough I had headaches for several days and just didn't feel right.

An interesting book to read would be The China Study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell and Eat to Live by Joel Fuhrman.

Unfortunately, disease prevention or even treatment through nutrition has not made it's way into the mainstream yet. My conventional surgeon thinks I am complete nutcase with my "obsession" about nutrition and most conventional doctors don't know much about nutrition and in fact state that nutrition has nothing to do with cancer.

By the way, if you are concerned about cancer running in your family you may want to ask your doctor to get your vitamin D levels tested. Vitamin D deficiency or insufficiency has been linked to a variety of cancers including breast cancer.
 
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warning, this is long...

...it's my day off, and I'm procrastinating before correcting papers and cleaning!

I've toyed with the idea of a raw food diet off and on for years, and read a lot of books on it. It intrigues me, and there are some convincing arguments for eating more raw, but I've never been 100% convinced that 100% raw is doable, healthy or necessary.

I have gone 100% raw for limited time periods (2 weeks in the 70's following a juice fast after getting my wisdom teeth out, when I use the opportunity to experiment with a lot of foods, and decided that if a plant isn't edible raw---like eggplant!--I didn't want to eat it cooked; 2 weeks a couple of summers ago, when I tried out a variety of techniques and recipes. Some good, some not-so-good!).

What I've taken from it is some ideas for foods, recipes and techniques to use to add more variety to my veggies and to eat more raw foods without actually being a 'raw fooder' (ie: soaking raw nuts then draining and either dehydrating or making milk out of them. Almonds--if you can find real raw ones nowdays: for the past year, most almonds labeled "raw" have actually been steamed or, if not organic, treated with a chemical--make a great raw milk. And all nuts are sweeter after soaking.)

My take:
I think it's an excellent idea to incorporate more raw foods in the diet, from 60% to 90% raw, depending on the season and your individual needs (and what foods are available).

I don't think that 100% raw is necessary, or even that good of an idea (unless perhaps you live in a tropical region with access to a variety of foods).

To incorporate more raw foods, make sure to have a large raw salad before each lunch and dinner (starting with raw foods can help provide enzymes), snack on raw foods.

I think it's harder (and less natural) to go raw food in the colder months (ideally, I'd be 60% raw in winter, 80% in summer).

A higher % raw food diet is good for shorter periods, like mid-summer when fresh organic produce is availalble, or for an alternative to fasting.

The problems I see with many raw food diets are:

1) too high fat content (lots of nuts and avocados) supposedly for 'protein,' but these are much better sources of fats than of protein, but also in order to get enough calories.

2) too much emphasis on fruits (there's some dude who claims that an 8o% fruit raw-food diet is ideal. But that would be too high in sugars for most folk, IMO.

3) I'm not sure how many 'rawfooders' are actually 100% raw, or how many call themselves 'raw fooders' and are actually at 80%-90% raw. On www.veganbodybuilding.com there is a raw fooder who claims to eat just oranges on some days and maintains his weight and builds muscle. But he give somewhat elusive answers to some questions, claiming that he personally knows "many" raw fooders who thrive on the diet, but aren't very vocal about it because they are ridiculed by others. It all seemed rather suspect to me.

4) some of the raw food proponents seem like total nut jobs, with no basis in reality or reason (others, though, have a medical or scientific background that they use to promote their ideas on raw foods).

5) some raw food 'gurus' don't look that healthy to me. Alissa Cohen used to look great, but last time I saw her on TV (doing some kind of diet challenge on Tyra?) her face was strangely bloated. And Victoria Boutenko is about 30 pounds overweight and it's NOT muscle.)

I do think a 'high-raw' diet of 80% raw to 20% cooked is doable and can be healthy.

Since spring and summer are coming, you could transition to a high raw diet for summer by starting adding more raw foods to your diet, and at the peak of summer, going all raw for a week. This experiment/journey can help you learn how raw foods fit for you, and introduce you to some new recipes and ways of using raw veggies.

There is quite a range of raw food 'recipe' books availalble.

Some are based on Anne Wigmore's and Victoris Kulvinskus' (sp?!) work on sprouts and fermented raw foods.

Some, like Alissa Cohen, have some elaborate and time consuming recipes that use the dehydrator and Spiralizer (makes cool raw zucchini 'pasta'!) a lot to make foods that ressemble cooked foods.

Others, like the author of my favorite raw-food recipe book (we can't really call them 'cookbooks" can we? LOL!) http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Food-Made...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233851713&sr=1-1 present recipes that are usually easy to make and tasty as well.

Victoria Boutenko and her family have several books out, but she generally comes off to me as someone in the 'kind of a whacko' group who is just making things up. I do, though, really like this book by her: http://www.amazon.com/Green-Life-Vi...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233851991&sr=1-2 that has a lot of interesting ideas for green smoothies, AND actually has some references to scientific studies (like those on nutrient levels found in organic vs. conventionally grown produce) rather than just what seem to be her lala land personal take on things. (It doesn't help my opinion of her that I find her to look unhealthy and about 30 pounds overweight).

HTH!
 
Yeah, I already have a high word count here, but, after rereading your original post, and the concerns about cancer, I would recommend checking out "the Rave Diet" ( http://ravediet.com/ ) . They have a book and a DVD (same info, but the DVD goes more into animal compassion reasons for the diet and has testimonials).

RAVE stands for the precepts of the diet (which are expressed in negatives, which I don't really like) ;

NO
Refined Foods
Animal Produces
Vegetable oils
Exceptions

On the DVD, there are several testimonials by people who follow this iet for cancer recovery (including at least 2 MDs, such a Ruth Heidrich, a 25?-year cancer survivor who runs marathons in her 70's).

I see they also have a new "Healing Cancer From the Inside Out" DVD. (ETA: I just watched the preview of this DVD, and it looks really good for those interested in natural approaches to healing cancer. They talk about "the business of cancer" and how money determines in large part how the disease is treated, which is not necessarily the most effective way to treat it.)

Here's part of the blurb on the dietary guidelines :
"Far and away, the most effective cancer reversal diets are 100% plant-based. The Rave Diet is a 100% whole foods, plant-based diet and recommends that at least 50 percent of your food be uncooked. When the book says 'try' to eat as much organic food as you can, translate that to mean all of your food must be organic because organic plant foods have much higher levels of cancer-fighting micro-nutrients than conventionally grown food. There are some 'transitional' foods (e.g., refined plant foods such as various soy or rice-based products, e.g., soy milk) that are recommended for people who may want to slowly transition to the full Rave Diet. When battling cancer, there is no transition so you must eliminate all transition foods and follow the full Rave Diet to the letter. Pay particular attention to the "Essential Tips and Tricks" section of the book, especially the first five."


HTH2!
 
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Hi Baylian,

I have the book "RAW The Uncook Book" by Juliano with Erika Lenkert. Love the recipes in this book. Healthy flavorful and out of this world!:p I also believe eating processed foods are a part of cancer causing illnesses. There are so many chemicals in the processed foods. I can't figure out why they arn't banned from society.

Have a look at his book, it's really great.

Janie
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This thread is great. I have gotton a ton of new books to check out as well as websites. Logicaly I know now is the time for me to go RAW. My family history involves my mom who just passed away of breast cancer in Dec, her sister who has breast cancer and is living strong, and a father who just had open heart surgery last week. It really was one hell of a year but a year that I realized that there was a greater lesson to be learned. Needless to say it has been the journey for me to do all I can to live my best life possible now. Raw food seems like it is the right fit for me at this time in my life. I'm actually going to head out and get me some Raw books now. I can see how nutriton plays the most important roll in your life. Thanks for starting this tread. I love seeing the opinions and options of going raw.

I so want a Vitamix blender but I settled for a dehydrator yesterday. Got to start somewhere.

Forgot to mention. I have the China Study on hold and awaiting it this week. Now I really can't wait to read it.
 
I LOVE my vitamix and my juicer. :)

Kathryn - I took a day long food class with Jenny Cornbleet and it was wonderful. I have the best dolma recipe from her. She shared with us that she occasionally eats fish and is closer to that 60-80% raw range you talk about. In our class - she included maple syrup and chocolate chips in a couple recipes we made.

I think Carol Alt has pretty simple recipes in her books that make it easy to incorporate raw into your diet as well.

Another good book along the lines of the China Study is In Defense of Food.
 
Well, going more unprocessed foods is really the key and the closer to a more vegetarian diet does wonders for your health. I know working in an aging lab sometimes we get upset with people promoting raw diets because they get the science all wrong. I told a friend of mine recently that there's a difference between unprocessed and uncooked. But as we are going through the data collections, its turning out that the phytonutrients (plant based nutrients) are amazing to combating a lot of the damage accumulated as we age. It was our ability to harness fire so we could cook that we could evolve by eating a variety of different food sources. If you want to go completely raw, go for it, but I think you're doing a world of good by moving away from processed foods first and it just must be an easier step to make at first.
 
I told a friend of mine recently that there's a difference between unprocessed and uncooked.
Good point.
There's certainly a difference between a box of Kraft Macaroni and cheese (processed) and a box of whole grain organic quinoa (minimally processed).

Also, some nutrients have been shown to be much better absorbed when cooked, like the lycopene in tomatoes.

A good middle ground here, for example, would be to make zucchini pasta--slicing raw zucchini into 'spaghetti'- or 'lasagna'-style 'noodles' using a Spiralizer or veggie peeler---and top with a cooked tomato sauce.
 

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