PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY DOG

chrishea

Member
Hi,
I am looking for advice from anyone who can help our family with our 1yr old shepard/beagle mix. We rescued him 3 months ago and it
has been causing turmoil in the family ever since. I swore by
the Dog Whisperer and have walked the dog just about everyday for
45 minutes 2x a day and his behavior is just getting worse. We can't leave him for any amount of time and he will destroy anything. This morning he chewed a sock, he has chewed my coffee table, his own
dog blanket in his crate, my clothes I have put in there to comfort
him while he is crated when we leave the house and of course the kids
toys. We have bought him toys, but apparently our stuff looks better.
He can't be left alone outside. This morning he dumped over a potted
plant and destroyed it. One time he found me in the basement and preceded to pee right in front of me after he had to be crated. I am losing my patience. I can't remain calm and have a hard time rewarding him with any type of good behavior (which I rarely see. He nips at the kids, jumps on everyone, jumps on the counters, steals food from the kids and eliminates in the house on occasion. I keep reading books on dog psychology and behavior and I feel I am not getting anywhere. The kids can't walk him because for
only 32 lbs it is like getting dragged by a truck. He is so strong, I don't enjoy it at times. I have such a death grip on the leash because any slack he takes off. I can get him to sit, lay down and stay. He doesn't stay long though. I knew getting a dog would have its ups and downs, but it's mostly downs. Any thoughts, advice, and
suggestions would be appreciated. I have to end because he is chewing on my husband's brand new running shoes.

Christine
 
Oh Christine, I don't mean to laugh but I'm going through many similar issues w/my puggle! There is just something about beagles........she just turned a year but the puppy is a hellion. So far I've had to replace:

--my sofa
--my king sized quilt
--my bed pillows
--my sofa pillows
--$500 repairing my oriental rug
--etc. etc.

So here's my advice. First of all, you're having dominance issues. Your puppy doesn't know who's boss. The nipping, the dragging, the peeing in front of you are all part of a struggle to be the alpha & mark his territory. Your dog needs some serious obedience training so he learns you're the boss & so you can establish his boundaries. I used Barkbusters--while my girl is still a bit of a lunatic she is very submissive, completely housebroken & she knows the difference between right & wrong. She just doesn't pay attention to it when she's not in my line of vision. }( Obedience training takes time & money, but probably in the long run you'll end up SAVING time & money if you follow their guidelines.

Second, your dog CAN NEVER EVER BE LET OUT OF YOUR SIGHT! I learned this the hard way. When I started dozing on the couch she knew & would head straight upstairs for my pillows. When I was down in the basement exercising she'd go to work on my couch. I now have a gate across the stairs so she can't go up when I'm falling asleep. I physically bring her in the basement w/me so she can't get to stuff when I'm in the middle of a workout (I tried crating her but this is like 6 am & she howled so loudly I was afraid the neighbors would call the police!). When you're not home he must be crated, NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!!

You also have to change your own behavior. Nothing bite sized should be left where he can reach it. Shoes, socks, etc. should be put in closets & drawers that aren't accessible. And get him lots & lots of chew toys--not the plush kind of toys that he can tear to shreds in minutes, but kongs, nylabones, & pup treads. Penny loves them & they keep her busy when I have her restricted somewhere.

Hang in there w/the pup. Penny is a maniac but she's also overflowing w/love, not to mention she's very intelligent. I think someday she'll be the best dog I ever had, if she ever stops destroying everything in her path. :p
 
Hmmm... I'm not really an expert, but I have 2 rescue dogs (I got them at the same time, when they were puppies) and I've had similar experiences. I discovered that I had several problems:

1) I wasn't being consistent. Like you, I took the "exercise" part of dog care seriously. But I wasn't consistent in my responses to their behavior. I had to learn that EVERY interaction with a dog is a training experience. I let both dogs drag me around, because training them to heel just seemed like such a hassle! But the dogs thought that if I let them be in front, they were in charge...and this gave them license to make their own rules everywhere. Train the dog to walk to heel, for everyone in your family.

2) Nobody else in my household was being consistent. I had to sit everyone down and we had to hash things out. As it turned out, everyone was using different commands for similar actions, i.e., I would say "sit", my roommate would say "down", and my brother was using hand signals. Sometimes people discouraged their barking, other times they let it go. It confused them, they didn't know who was supposed to be in charge, and their behavior reflected that.

3) It took me several weeks of "set-ups", where I would give them a chance to misbehave, "catch" them, discipline them, and show them the correct behavior. Which, believe me, is not easy with two mischievous terriers, but it has totally paid off.

It sounds like your dog has a dominance problem, so you and your family will have to develop a plan to be the dog's boss and STAY his boss. You might need to hire a trainer for a few sessions, which is usually totally worth it.

It sounds like there's a lot going on with this dog, and I'm sure lots of folks here will have good suggestions, so I'll just leave it here and say, be consistent, hang in there, and don't give up! It will keep being frustrating, he may improve and then seem to be backsliding, but if you stick with it you can train him. My dogs peed everywhere, chewed everything, were nightmares to take for walks, barked constantly if I left the house, nipped people's hands, the whole gamut of bad canine behavior. Now I don't know what I'd do without them! They'll be nine years old this summer. It wasn't easy (AT ALL) but I know you can do it.

Dee
 
Well, first off obidence training helped me a lot. That is when I came to a realization I have an protective/aggressive dog that will bite someone if I am not a responsible dog owner. I learned which sitiuations are good and what to avoid.

The halti is the best invention ever made for woman and children trying to handle large wild dogs. Our dog is around 110 lbs and is very protective of us and walking him can be challenging but with the halti I am confident becuase I can control him with his head rather then the neck. We have tried every collar known to man, also with the halti it brings his temperment down a peg or two.

I have also heard that if you lay on top of them to show who is the "alpha dog" may help. You really have to show them who is boss. You definatley need some professional help. The trainers at those classes have seen every type of dog behavior and helped many others just like you. One mistake I made was taking Max without my husband, I am the only one who can control him in public without going completely crazy.

I have no experience with the chewing part but the trainers will have some suggestions.

Good Luck and don't give up. You will feel like you are spending every waking moment training him but it will be worth it in the end.
 
I don't know what I would do. I usually have small dogs.

I'm glad you are giving this guy a chance though. That is so kind of you. Obedience training does come to mind. It will be great, you'll see.

Janie

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First thing I would recommend is a visit with a good trainer - not a PetsMart or Petco - but look online, ask around at places like Pet Food Express (if you have one in your area), or call the local AKC and ask them. A good trainer will help train you in how to react to your dog. Chewing is to be expected with a young dog. They usually stop around 2 or 3. I know that does not help you. Until you can get a good trainer, I would recommend tethering the dog to you while he is loose in the house. That way he does not have the opportunity to do anything without you right there. If you cannot be in the room, crate him. In his crate, only put bones and chew toys - no blanket. Make sure he has water available. And try not to leave him crated for more than 4 hours at a stretch.

Nipping - that has to be corrected each and every time it happens. Give him a firm "NO!" and turn away from him (making sure he can't get into anything of course). Dogs do not like to be excluded from the pack.

If he is dog friendly, I would strongly recommend taking him to doggie day care a couple of times a week. Beagles can go all day - they've been bred to chase foxes for hours. If he will wrestle and tumble with other dogs, that can really wear him out. I have an Australian Shepherd, another high energy breed, and this works wonders for him.

Beagles are tough dogs to train - they are stubborn and once they get the scent of something it's next to impossible to get them off of it. That's why so many beagles and puggles are in the pound. But they are trainable and with patience and perserverance you will have a good little dog on your hands. I agree that consistancy is the key!

Good luck! I'm sure Carola will have better advice for you!
 
You indicate that this is a rescue dog. Do you know what happened during the first year of his life? Remember, not only do you have to train him, but you have to undo whatever was done his first year. He may have been left alone a lot and neglected (sounds like it), so a lot of this is fear-based behavior. As others have said, you have to be super-consistent, patience is going to be required. I would definitely recommend some obedience training. Most dogs that freak out when left alone do so because they're afraid - it's anxiety-based. Think of him as an abused child (that's what he is) and treat him as such. Good luck!!
 
I agree with pretty much everything has been said so far. You have been given great advice!!! Just a couple of things that I wanted to add that have worked for me and some of the people whose dogs I have trained:

Exercise is GREAT!!! It drains energy BUT your dog dragging you all over the place defies the purpose of the exercise. Having the "death grip" on your leash and dragging your heels in the dust in an attempt to hold your dog back is counterproductive. All it does is the dog pulling more forward. Aside, as you said, it is not a lot of fun, it will tire you more out than your dog.

I would recommend that you get either a "Gentle Leader" http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produ...ubref=AA&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=001311900300P or what is technically a show collar http://www.ryanspet.com/ryanspet/productList.asp?categoryCode=283&startItemCnt=1

With both of them the collar stays right behind the dog's ears which is a pressure point and gives you more control without going into a pulling match which you - as you probably know - will inevitably lose. Moreover, the way most conventional collars sit on the neck it may hurt your dog's trachea.

Be prepared, when you put the gentle leader on your dog probably will start protesting and possibly start bucking like a horse. Ignore it, give a quick pull on the leash - don't jank, say ahah or no and keep walking. He will eventually submit.

If you walk have the dog walk on your left side (if you are right-handed), take the leash in your right hand, put the loop of the leash on your thumb and fold up the leash and hold it in your right hand. The reasons being, for one you hold it in your stronger arm, second, it is across, so when your dog takes off your arm doesn't get janked straight out of the socket and third, you still have the other arm/hand to be able to grab onto the leash.

Now, if you start walking, have your dog stand or sit next to you, tap your left hand on your left thigh, step out with your left foot and say "<<your dog's name>>, heel". If at any time he takes off, give a little pull on the leash (pull him towards you) and say ahah, no, hey or whatever word you chose. If you have done that a few times and he still keeps pulling, stop, turn around and go in the other direction, away from where he wants to pull you. Going in a different direction or walking in a circle usually helps because they have redirect their attention to you and it takes them away from wherever THEY want to go, that way he learns that YOU are in control!

As to the sit, stay, down commands, that is a longer process, you will have to train with him EVERY day, preferrably 10 to 15 minutes twice a day. Two of my 5 dogs are 11-months old puppies, I started training with them very early on and it still is a working progress.

Now, there are two schools of thought, I have worked with both of them successfully.

One is positive reinforcement / treats / clicker training. I think it works very well on sit and even more effectively on down. It does NOT work well with the stay command. The clicker is used to mark a desired behavior, like sit or down where you use the treat to "trick" them into the desired movement - i.e for sit, you give the command, hold the treat above their nose until their bottom moves to the ground, you click and then treat. With down, you have them in a sit position, hold the treat right underneath their nose and then start moving the treat forward, click when they reach the desired position and give them the treat. "Stay" is a little different because you don't reward the action immediately because it is a length of stay and it is hard to treat them, in fact, I think in that case, the treat and clicker is counter productive.

One of my dogs, Pepper, I had tried and tried with treats and clicker to get her to sit, to no avail. As submissive and easy to train as she is otherwise, she would NOT sit, so I changed it, put her on a leash, said SIT, she would just look at me, I would keep the leash tight in my hand and move towards her until she sat and sometimes even push her behind down. It took over a year, 9 months of clicker training without results, then I changed it and now she sits without fail every time. Which just proves, every dog is different.

There really is no right or wrong, you just work with whatever you are more comfortable with, if it doesn't work change to the other method. I am VERY reluctant to give a treat every time they do something right, I use treats VERY sparingly. So I don't do much clicker training anymore BUT they do get lots of praise everytime they do what I ask them to do.

Whatever method you chose for your dog, NEVER EVER repeat a command. Say SIT once, he doesn't sit, depending on the method you chose, either push his behind down or keep the treat in front of his nose until he sits. Many dog owners will repeat and repeat, what the dog will learn, she says sit 5 or 6 times, I will wait until she has said sit for 5 times or I sit whenever I want to, this will send the wrong message. Your goal is to have their little bottoms hit the ground the very first time you give the command.

On the stay, it is a VERY hard command for dogs. You have to start very slow but consistently, work on it every day. Give the sit or down command, then say, STAY, at the same time put your hand up in front of them, basically giving a STOP signal, keep the leash in your hand and step back one step, at first count to 3 and then give the release command (either okay, release, free, whatever you chose), then give a treat or just praise. Increase the time you ask your dog to sit/stay by one second every couple of days. After a week, take two steps back, keep increasing the distance over weeks. If your dog breaks the stay without you giving the release command, give a correction, no, ahah, hey, pstst ...... start it over again. It's a lot of work, it won't happen overnight!

The down/stay is more difficult, it is a submissive position for a dog and they will want to escape. If you have gotten him in the down position, step on the leash right in front of him, so he cannot move, THEN step back, one step at a time, increase the distance over time BUT don't expect too much right away.

Another thing that you may want to do, is have your dog "track" you. The way you do it, go in your driveway, backyard, around your neighborhood ...... keep your dog on a leash in front of you, you step backwards, have your dog follow you, he doesn't follow, pull the leash towards you, you stop, he stops. You are teaching him to pay attention to you and not any other distractions.

Keep his attention on you, say <<your dog's name>> look at me, snap your finger, say pst, whatever, if he looks at you give a treat (at least for the first few weeks). Don't give any sit/stay/down command without your dog's attention on you, you'll fight a losing battle.


If your dog jumps on everyone, I agree with Christine, turn around, don't pay any attention to him, like yelling at him will have him think, oh, cool, I get a response, even if it is negative, it IS attention. You will need to work on that. Have your kids, or DH, ring the door bell, put your dog on a leash, have them come in, he jumps, correct it/pull him back/move towards him and force him to retreat or sit, say ahah, no ...., have them go out again, repeat it. When you know, you will have visitors, same thing, tell them not to pet him or pay any attention to him until he behaves/submits, as Cesar says "No touch, no talk, no eye contact", keep correcting him, keep exposing him to those situations.

The chewing is a whole different situation. First off, ALL puppies chew, just like toddlers put everything in their mouth, puppies will chew everything they can find. Dogs that are not balanced through exercise, discipline, affection WILL chew, no matter what age. A couple of months ago I was out sick for a week, and their exercise and discipline lacked, well, they chewed up my shoes, socks, sweatpants, dug craters in the backyard, destroyed my herbs ....... I agree with Laura's suggestion of giving your dog their own "stuff", Kongs stuffed with treats, peanut butter, cheese ... are good, NO greenies though!!! I give my dogs raw beef marrow bones but I understand that some people are hesitant to do that.

You will need to claim your own stuff, put it in front of him, correct him and move towards him when he tries to take it, take it away BUT, it is difficult, one of my 11-months old puppies gets stressed out when I leave, he will chew up the crouch of my sweatpants, my shoes, underwear...... Usually I put the puppies in a crate but if I know I am gone for more than 4 hours, I won't crate them but I try to get everything out of their reach, however, I am not perfect and he never seizes to amaze me what else he can find that I never thought of.


It is a similar situation with kids though, we teach our kids not to do certain things, we will keep them away from cleaning stuff, medications, etc, but with toddlers, you will have to lock it up, we'll try to shelter them until they understand, same thing with puppies. Between 8 and 20 months in a dog's life is the absolutely worst!!!! Compare it to 8 years + and then puberty in kids. It is not easy and a puppy or adolescent dog is difficult to say the least, this is the reason why there ARE so many dogs in shelters. Unfortunately, they don't come in a perfect package, it is up to us to teach them, train them, keep them from harm. It is a HUGE commitment that many people don't realize when they get dogs or puppies and puppies are as cute as it gets AND that's for a reason :).

Having read through your post, I think one of the challenges is that you have not taken the leader role, I hope this is not offending to you, I have been in the same boat, I have had many of the same issues that you have. What I have learned is that most dogs are not leaders but they will take over if they are not put in their place (which does NOT imply that you have to be "mean", you just have to take control - after all, who is putting the food in their food bowl :) ), they don't like it and they keep sending mixed messages. Once you take control, your dog will be a much happier dog and you will be a much happier owner.

The additional advise that I can give you, when you feed your dog, have him sit and wait until YOU give him the command to eat, if you go out the door, he cannot move until you are out the door and have given him the command that he can move.

I totally agree with Christine (andtckrtoo) get a dog trainer but don't go to Petsmart or Petco, research the credentials, there is a lot of so-called dog trainers out there, there are no regulations on dog trainers. If you don't have the money or cannot find anyone reputable, a book that I can recommend is http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~47827.aspx

Eileen has been my dogs' agility trainer for a while and I also hired her as a dog behaviorist when I was at my wits end with one of my puppies. She is very much based on Cesar Millan's teachings BUT she also goes into more detail about training. Her book has a 5 or 6 week day-by-day training schedule.

Beagles are hard to train, they are kind of stubborn, but it is soooo worth it. Good luck to you. Sorry I was so long-winded!!! But I hope it helps, keep us posted on your baby's progress.
 
I have two rescue dogs. We have a very high energy border collie/burnese mountain dog mix. We couldn't give him the exercise he needed to wear him out and we're big on having two dogs (we had to put down two dogs last year due to cancer) so we got a 1 year old black lab female to be his buddy. They are inseparable and run around the yard together all day long. They still run and play inside as well and get put out when they get out of control. They still have some bad puppy habits and dig a little now and then (two diggers! We will never again have a beautiful backyard LOL) but their energy is now directed at each other. I have no doubt that they are far less destructive as a pair than they would be individually.

I agree that you should look into some obedience training and I think the doggie daycare idea is fantastic. If you find your dog's behavior tends to be better in the evenings after spending a day at doggie daycare, you'll know that getting another dog as company will be worth looking into.

P.S.-the first dog we ever got, over 12 years ago (she died 2 years ago) was really destructive and ate all my shoes and whatnot until we got her a companion (who died last year). As soon as she had a companion, her chewing on things that were not hers stopped.
 
I give my dogs raw beef marrow bones but I
>understand that some people are hesitant to do that.
>

Oh man, this works like a charm for Penny. Give her the old soup bone, nothing else exists in the world. It keeps her busy for HOURS. Until she loses it. I love the days when my cleaning service comes b/c they always find them for us.

It is not easy and a puppy or adolescent
>dog is difficult to say the least, this is the reason why
>there ARE so many dogs in shelters. Unfortunately, they don't
>come in a perfect package, it is up to us to teach them, train
>them, keep them from harm. It is a HUGE commitment that many
>people don't realize when they get dogs or puppies and puppies
>are as cute as it gets AND that's for a reason :).
>

That's the truth. I can't tell you how many times I was ready to take Penny to the shelter (especially after I found my sofa in pieces on my LR floor). But I made the commitment, I took on the responsibility, & it wouldn't be fair to her.

>
>The additional advise that I can give you, when you feed your
>dog, have him sit and wait until YOU give him the command to
>eat, if you go out the door, he cannot move until you are out
>the door and have given him the command that he can move.
>
>

I've done this w/Penny & it's been miraculous, and it is proof that beagles are very trainable. We're now at the point where she sits & waits patiently when she gets fed. Also when I'm getting ready to leave she knows & goes right into her crate. She just turned a year old in April & she's really becoming a very good dog since I've put the time & patience she needs into training her.

>Beagles are hard to train, they are kind of stubborn, but it
>is soooo worth it.

Totally worth it. Penny used to think her name was JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!! :+ :7 }( She's finally learning she's not the second coming, just a sweet, submissive, loving little dog named Penny. :)

Good luck!
 
It looks like you're getting lot of excellent advice.

We had a LOT of problems with our second dog, who was 4 months old when we got her. Chewing and accidents were her main issues. Patience, discipline, and routine took care of the "accidents". The only way we could take care of the chewing was by locking both the dogs up whenever we're gone. We made the laundry room into a "safe room". The only thing she can chew is her own toys, and her bed. The funny thing is, she hasen't even tried to wreck anything since we started doing this!

For the first 4 months I would have paid someone to take her. Many a night she had me in tears. It seemed absolutely hopeless. Now, she is just a darling. I wouldn't get rid of her for anything. I hope you can hang in there.

Annie
 
Holy cow! I thought my cats were a pain. Well, actually, just the one. My boy, Tangerine, will look right at me, squat, and pee on the carpet. How far he gets depends on how fast I can spring off the sofa. He KNOWS he can outrun me so he doesn't budge until I'm 12" from him. I love animals but they're like ADD kids. I'm always running around with a roll of paper towels and a spray bottle of Nature's Miracle. I got him when he was so little I had to feed him with a dropper so I tell everyone to get full-grown animals because you know what you're getting. I never dreamed that little orange ball of puff-and-purr would grow up to be Satan On Four Legs!

I agree with the other poster who commended you for giving him a chance. Tangee has truly disturbed my household but, had I taken him to the Humane Society, he most surely would have been returned because of "behavioral issues," then euthanized. I may want to strangle him sometimes but I'd miss those cute little grunts and beeps he emits when he sleeps next to me and the way he follows me around. Still, I wish he could speak so he could tell me just what the H*ll his problem is!
 
I just wanted to thank all of you who have given me some suggestions. I had to chuckle when I read some of the posts (Penny's nickname for example). I am relieved to know others go thru some of this stuff too. I will definitely read the book, try the suggestions and keep at it. I can't give up on this dog; it's not fair to him especially since I don't know anything about his past. I will keep you posted and again I can't thank you all enough for taking the time to write.

Christine
 
> My boy, Tangerine, will look right at me,
>squat, and pee on the carpet. How far he gets depends on how
>fast I can spring off the sofa. He KNOWS he can outrun me so
>he doesn't budge until I'm 12" from him. I love animals but
>they're like ADD kids. I'm always running around with a roll
>of paper towels and a spray bottle of Nature's Miracle. I got
>him when he was so little I had to feed him with a dropper so
>I tell everyone to get full-grown animals because you know
>what you're getting. I never dreamed that little orange ball
>of puff-and-purr would grow up to be Satan On Four Legs!
>
>I agree with the other poster who commended you for giving him
>a chance. Tangee has truly disturbed my household but, had I
>taken him to the Humane Society, he most surely would have
>been returned because of "behavioral issues," then euthanized.
> I may want to strangle him sometimes but I'd miss those cute
>little grunts and beeps he emits when he sleeps next to me and
>the way he follows me around. Still, I wish he could speak so
>he could tell me just what the H*ll his problem is!


I sympathize with you (and thank you, on Tangerine's behalf) that you didn't take him to the shelter.

I had a cat, Mandy, who used to pee in inappropriate places (usually on a rug---luckily, I don't have carpeting!) or pile of clothes. But, she'd very carefully cover it up (which meant that I'd sometimes pick up a piece of clothing, and suddenly smell aged pee on it!). I tried several methods to solve her problem, starting with putting away my clothes ;) and using special 'cat attract' litter (it seemed to work, but was expensive, and the other cats didn't seem to understand that the pan with it in was 'just for her'. Then I bought one of those automatic cleaning pans (thinking maybe the problem was her wanting an extremely clean place to pee). No one touched it, and I took it back after a week of non-use.

Thinking that maybe litter felt uncomfortable to her when trying to cover (she was declawed---not by me, I would never have that done to a cat, I got her that way), so my solution ended up setting up a separate cat pan for her, in the basement, where the other ones are, in which I placed two, folded-up bath towels (cheap ones from Walmart). It worked like a charm: she'd pee, cover it up, and I'd throw the towels in the washer and set up some fresh ones (she still used the regular pans for #2, and always had). The "pee-pee towel" solution worked for us.

I have a feeling Tangerine is holding a grudge over something, or wants to assert dominance (especially since he stares at you and pees right in front of you). If he were a dog, it would probably be easier to break him of the habit, but cats don't work the same way. Some vets are animal behaviorists (maybe online?). Maybe one could help?
 
I don't have any advice. I feel for you. Dogs are just like kids. Some are just a handful trouble!
My boxer boy(now 7 years old) was a nightmare puppy. I couldn't turn my back on him for a second. He settle down after he turned a one. He's now the joy of my life.

Anyway, I wanted to post this for you.
Hope it puts a smile on your face
:)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqDZVJ6nZjU
 
Hi Cynthia,

Is that your Boston Terrier in the Youtube video? I used to have Bostons, they're great little dogs!
 
No Gayle. I have two boxers. I found that video on www.cuteoverload.com

I just love those adorable faces! How could you say no to that?!
What's funny, well maybe not. Boxers have been known to eat entire couches while left alone}(
Luckily, mine have never eaten a couch. My boy Maximus did eat quite a few new planted shrubs in the backyard. In his early years that is. My girl boxer would snitch on him too!
Those were several trying months. I now look at the surviving shrubs with a smile on my face:)


All the advice given here is ALL good. Puppy classes and obedience school helped me get through the trying times.
 
>What's funny, well maybe not. Boxers have been known to eat
>entire couches while left alone}(

LOL!! I had a Boxer named Gunther (who has since passed away) who was a destructo-puppy. He ate my couch. :)

My Boston Terrier, Chelsea, was pretty destructive when she was young. This was before we got religion on crate training. It was so bad that one time we decided to set up a video camera and leave, so we could see what she did while we were gone. The footage was hysterical!!! I should try to get the tape digitized and post it on Youtube.

I currently have one Boxer named Rascal. He's the guy in my avatar. They're awesome dogs!
 
My boy Maximus did eat
>quite a few new planted shrubs in the backyard.

Hey, my pug is named Maximus! I knew there were a ton of Maxes in the world, but I didn't think there were very many Maximuses. :)
 
Christine, I just wanted to add one thing...I find that the second year mark tends to be the magical number...most of my dogs all had behavior issues that finally settled out around year two. You are right not to give up on your dog. Our lab, Lola, makes me want to pull my hair out at times, but she is just as sweet as she is mischievous. We still have a year to go before she reaches two and I have a feeling it will be a long year. LOL She still jumps on people and sometimes will get excited and nip your fingers while she's jumping. With the two dogs we have (a 2yo and a 1 yo), it's EXACTLY like having a house with two toddlers in it! And no, we didn't take them to obedience school like we should have ;-)
 

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