ok Part 2: Red Meat in general...?

olexa17

Cathlete
:) Hello everyone again,

I just asked everyone's opinion on salad dressing. My last question then in the similar area would be - when trying to LOSE weight, get lean etc. do you all avoid red meat or just eat limited amounts? I never really avoided it, although I don't eat a lot of it,but if you dine out, is a small Filet Mignon going to ruin results??

(I hope its ok to ask this type of general "diet" question on here!)

Thanks everyone, love your opinions!!

Take care,
Kelly
;-)
 
I don't see why you can't have piece of red meat once in awhile, especailly very lean cuts like Filet Mignon or sirloin. Limit them to special occasions and try to avoid the addition of rich sauces which are often added to Filet Mignon because of it's mild flavor.

Michele
 
I don't avoid red meat either. I really like to vary my protein sources anyway and red meat is an excellent source. I do try to avoid eating red meat at restaurants. If I stick to red meats at home, I can control the amount of fat that's in/on the meat as well as the fat used to cook it.
 
I eat alot of red meat. I love steak, burgers, taco's, chili, etc. I also eat alot of chicken and fish, but I would have to say I eat more red meat though. I buy the leanest kind and I also drain my meat from any grease.

Charlotte~~
 
I usually eat some red meat about once a week, but only from animals that have been given no antibiotics, no hormones, and fed a pure vegetarian diet (no animal by-products in the feed.) It costs more, but I feel I'm getting a better quality meat (and, hopefully, a more "humane" one as well, as humane as you can get for being a meat-eater.)
 
>I usually eat some red meat about once a week, but only from
>animals that have been given no antibiotics, no hormones, and
>fed a pure vegetarian diet (no animal by-products in the
>feed.) It costs more, but I feel I'm getting a better quality
>meat (and, hopefully, a more "humane" one as well, as humane
>as you can get for being a meat-eater.)

I agree with that 100% and that's what we do. The extra expense is worth every cent and we've done our homework. I eat it with a clear conscience.

Michele
 
I hate to admit it but I love red meat and eat it about twice a week! I do try to buy only sirloin and antibiotic free. When I lived in TN they had Laura's Beef which was pricey but good. If you buy the really lean I think (hope) it should be healthier than lets say ground chuck.
Jen
 
Yeah, we are still a meat eating family(except for my daughter), I have tried to convert my son and husband to ground chicken or turkey in a lot of my meals, but there are sometimes they just prefer the beef(like for hamburgers). I try to buy my meats at a local health food store, but I do have to say Laura's beef tastes very good, and although pricier than "regular" beef, it is so worth it! I think if you are going as lean as possible red meat in moderation is okay.

Donna
 
Fattening our steer on good old fashioned farm grass and oats on grandpa's farm. Won't be cheaper, but it will sure be good! Poor cow! Can't go there!
 
A plant-based diet is always the superior choice when it comes to health, the environment, and minimizing the suffering and brutal death that eating animal products causes. I respect that we are free to eat what we want and that eating some meat isn't neccessarily harmful to one's health, but it is harmful to the animals who lived horrible "lives" and suffered brutal deaths. Don't believe what the USDA tells you about "organic" or "humanely" slaughtered meat. They don't really regulate this industry and they aren't concerned with our health and well-being. Even if you really were eating animal products that are free of antibiotics, growth hormones, pesticides, disease, suffering, and god forbid mad cow disease or ecoli bacteria (and most likely the animal products you consume contain a number of these things), you are still eating heart-clogging saturated fat. Not to mention that eating animal products is linked to cancer. Those of us who choose to eat animal products anyway should at least educate themselves on what these poor animals go through so that we can eat their flesh, their milk, and their eggs. Surely if they have to endure it for us, we should at least know exactly what they are enduring. Here is a link for more info: http://peta.com/mc/factsheet_vegetarianism.asp (I don't think there are any disturbing photos here, although the information isn't so appetizing). The only reason for eating meat and other animal products that cannot easily be disputed is that one simply likes how it tastes. Not trying to make anyone angry or start another vegan vs. carnivore war, but it's an honest question and here is my honest answer. Given what I know and how much I and my loved ones have benefitted from being vegan, I feel it is the right thing to do to speak up. I hope that those of you who disagree with veganism will see it that way.
-Amy
 
I truly appreciate and support your decision to live a vegan lifestyle, however, many of us do not feel compelled to follow in your footsteps. Please, most of us with more well rounded dietary habits do not attempt to hijack vegan topics on the boards and convert anyone to our way of thinking/eating. Most of us are fairly well educated and have made informed decisions about how we choose to nourish our bodies. Let's come together and agree to disagree.

Michele:)
 
>Please, most of us with more well rounded
>dietary habits do not attempt to hijack vegan topics on the
>boards and convert anyone to our way of thinking/eating.

Hijack??? Please Michele, this is an answer to a question. Not every pro vegan response is a hijack, just like every pro meat response is not a hijack. Are we not free to discuss our opinions anymore?

Most
>of us are fairly well educated and have made informed
>decisions about how we choose to nourish our bodies.

Remember, this was a question about eating meat. Obviously Amy was answering the original question. As for me, I am indeed hijacking the thread at this point so I'm respectfully leaving:) .

Carolyn:) :) :) :)
 
Hi Michele,

Not to be too contrary, but this isn't a hijack, although I too am sick of the arguing so let it be known that I don't really feel compelled to change people's diets. I just think they should know what they are eating. You are what you eat!
The question was about eating meat, and I gave my answer. Is that not OK? I respectfully disagree about most people being well educated about diet. After all, the info the gov't gives us isn't exactly trustworthy since former execs from the meat, dairy, and egg industries serve on the board of the USDA. What's wrong with sharing information for those who weren't aware? I do so out of care for fellow humans, animals, and our planet. Take care,

-Amy
 
With all due respect, truly, the original poster had a question about the consumption of red meat as it pertains to weight loss, not about moral and ethical issues and how the government is is in the back pocket of the meat and dairy industry.

I don't think there is anything wrong with sharing your information. I would like to suggest that you start a topic about it if you so desire, and let people respond to it in the proper context.

I'm not so blind that I can't see and assess for myself the govt/meat/dairy connection, just as I am fully aware that animal rights groups have agendas of their own. I think we all know what we're eating...or at least most of us do.

I want to reiterate my support for your choices. I have no axe to grind with anyone, but the fact of the matter is, the original post had nothing to do with the veganism or possible governmental deception. She just wanted to know if she would still lose weight if she indulged in an occasional steak.

Michele:)
 
>With all due respect, truly, the original poster had a
>question about the consumption of red meat as it pertains to
>weight loss, not about moral and ethical issues and how the
>government is is in the back pocket of the meat and dairy
>industry.
>
I believe Amy did mention the possible health problems associated with eating meat. Maybe we should have told her that she was not permitted to bring up other issues even though they may be related. I'll do that for you. Amy, no bringing up issues that don't apply to the orginal topic. Oh wait, we do that all the time here...so I guess that's ok afterall.
Oh my, I seem to be hijacking again. I'm off, like a bad case of food poisoning, from eating undercooked meat!


Carolyn;-)
 
>>I'm not so blind that I can't see and assess for myself the
>govt/meat/dairy connection, just as I am fully aware that
>animal rights groups have agendas of their own. I think we all
>know what we're eating...or at least most of us do.

I didn't mean you personally. I think others may be interested.

>I would like to suggest that you start a topic about it if you so >desire, and let people respond to it in the proper context.

Are you serious??? I think we all know what would happen!:p

I'll bow out of this thread now. I think some of you might appreciate that.

-Amy
 
>Are you serious??? I think we all know what would happen!:p
>
>I'll bow out of this thread now. I think some of you might
>appreciate that.
>
>-Amy

Amy--LOL

I'm very serious. There's a lot of interest in veganism on these forums. There are many people sitting on the fence and they might be very thankful for your wisdom on the topic. There are several vegans on the boards that post here all day long everyday. I think we all need to respect each other's choices, that's all.

I really didn't mean to offend or diminish your thoughts or concerns.

Michele
:)
 
>I'm very serious. There's a lot of interest in veganism on
>these forums. There are many people sitting on the fence and
>they might be very thankful for your wisdom on the topic.

You've started to convince me Michele! Maybe later today or tomorrow I'll start a thread on veganism. I have some ideas. No nasty pics or preachiness, just some sharing about how it has benefitted me and my peeps. Just promise to be there to get my back if people tell me to buzz off!

>There are several vegans on the boards that post here all day
>long everyday. I think we all need to respect each other's
>choices, that's all.

Agreed!

>I really didn't mean to offend or diminish your thoughts or
>concerns.

No worries, you didn't! You're the one putting up with my and my sister's sassiness. }(

-Amy
 
Amy, I've got your back covered, and I love your sassiness! Now, have at it:p ;). I think a lot of people will be interested in what you have to say.

Michele :)
 

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