Oily Skin- Which Products?

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Cathlete
Hi everyone,

In the past year or so, my skin has gotten really oily. I can't attribute it to a significant change in diet or exercise or changing skincare products, so my guess is that good old hormones are the cause.

After I wash my face, it feels great, but an hour or two later, with or without makeup, I feel like I've been bathed in olive oil! I know I could use those blot papers, but I think they're expensive for the amount you get, and I'd rather take some preventative measures.

Right now, I use Differin at night and a 5%Benzoyl Peroxide/1%Clindamycin product (BenzaClin) in the morning. The BenzaClin feels fine going on but really dries out my skin in that strange way that your skin can feel flaky but still be oily. I also have DDF Benzoyl Peroxide Gel 5% w/ Tea Tree Oil. This one doesn't dry out my skin, but again, I get oily later in the day.

I'm looking into Clinac BPO (Rx). It has micro-beads that absorb oil for up to 8 hours after application, and 7% BP. I'd like to know if anyone has used this or has any suggestions for preventing oiliness.

Thanks in advance! I must go wash my face now...

Gina
 
Here is an interesting article you might like to read:

What is Skin Type?
Some women are quite aware of their skin type; for other women it’s a complete mystery, an elusive conundrum of changes that never settles down in one specific direction. That’s not to say understanding skin type isn’t important, because it is, but not in the way the cosmetics industry approaches it or the way we’ve been indoctrinated to think about it.

What I’m really saying is to forget about skin type as the cosmetics industry defines it. The rigid categories you find at cosmetics counters and the information about what your skin needs as analyzed by a salesperson are often wrong or at best incomplete. Skin type strongly influences our decisions about our skin-care routines.

The four most common skin types are:
Normal (no apparent signs of oily or dry areas)
Oily (shine appears on skin, no dry areas at all)
Dry (flaking can appear, no oily areas at all)
Combination (oily and dry or normal areas)
What Influences Skin Type?
Outside factors can and do influence the way your skin looks and feels. To effectively evaluate your skin and determine the correct skin-care routine, the following factors need to be considered:

Internal:
Hormonal changes (pregnancy, menopause, menstrual cycle, etc.)
Health problems (rosacea, psoriasis, thyroid disorders, etc.)
Genetic predisposition of skin type (oily versus dry, prone to breakouts, or sensitive skin)
Smoking
Medications you may be taking
External:
Climate/weather (cold, warm, moist, dry)
Your skin-care routine (over-moisturizing or exfoliating, using irritating or drying products)
Sun exposure
These complex integrated circumstances all contribute to what takes place on and under your skin.

Will My Skin Type Change?
Another problem with skin typing is the assumption that your skin (and skin type) will be the same forever, or at least until you age. That, too, is rarely the case. If your skin-care routine focuses on skin type alone, it can become obsolete the moment the season changes, your work life becomes stressful, or your body experiences hormonal or weight fluctuations or other physical changes, and whatever else life may bring.

To complicate things even more, in any given period you may have many skin types! Over the years, even when using gentle, irritant-free products, I’ve experienced irritated skin patches at the same time I had oily skin, or acne flare-ups along with dry skin around my eyes. It is not unusual for women to have a little bit of each skin type simultaneously or at different times of the month or week. An overview of how your skin behaves and changes is necessary to assess what your skin needs.

As far as the cosmetics industry is concerned, every woman can and should have normal skin. Yet acquiring normal skin is like trying to scale a peak with a slippery, precarious slope. Like the rest of our bodies, skin is in a constant state of change. Even women with perfect complexions go through phases of having oily, dry, or blemish-prone skin. In reality, no one is likely to have normal skin for very long, no matter what she does. Chasing after normal skin can set you up on an endless skin-care buying spree, running around in circles trying everything and finding nothing that works for very long.

In any case, identifying skin type is highly subjective. Many women have really wonderful skin but refuse to accept it. The smallest blemish or wrinkle or the slightest amount of dry skin distresses them. Or some women see a line or two around their eyes and immediately buy the most expensive anti-wrinkle creams they can find in the hope of warding off their worst imagined nightmare. This is one of those times where being realistic is the most important part of your skin-care routine.

Identifying your skin type is made even more difficult by the omnipresent combination skin. Almost everyone at some time or another, if not all the time, has combination skin. The nose, chin, center of the forehead, and the center of the cheek all have more oil glands than other parts of the face. It is not surprising that those areas tend to be oilier and break out more frequently than other areas. Problems occur when you buy extra products for combination skin because many ingredients that are appropriate for the T-zone (the area along the center of the forehead and down the nose where most of the oil glands on the face are located) won’t help the cheek or jaw areas. You may need separate products to deal with the different skin types on your face because you should treat different skin types, even on the same face, differently.

The most frustrating aspect of skin type is the fact that it’s often used (by cosmetics salespeople and by the cosmetics industry in its ads) to instill a sense of immediate need. Once your skin is classified as a type that isn’t normal, or if it stops being normal, then panic can set in. Cosmetics salespeople aim this ploy at the 30-something crowd, with the pitch sounding something like “You better do what you can do now to make sure your skin doesn’t get worse.” I’ve listened to or been personally subjected to a salesperson’s scolding about skin-care mistakes that destroy the skin. What destroys skin is unprotected sun exposure, smoking, and using irritating skin-care products. Not using the right skin-care products (other than a good sunscreen) may cause problems, but it does not damage skin in the long run.

Determining your skin type will not lead to answers to other skin care needs that may not be apparent on the skin’s surface. For example, sun damage is not evident when you are young, but sun protection is imperative for all skin types. Oily and dry skin that are present at the same time, along with some redness, may be an early sign of rosacea, a condition that cannot be treated with cosmetics and may not be easily diagnosed. Your skin may be breaking out now, but those blemishes took a few weeks to get to the surface. Breakouts begin in the pores, and may involve sebum (oil), cellular debris (dead skin cells), dead hair shafts, and/or bacteria. What you see on the surface of the skin does not always indicate the type of skin-care products you should buy, or even that you need a skin-care product at all.

Skin Type Has Nothing to Do with Your Age
Older skin is different from younger skin; that is indisputable. Yet it is a mistake to buy skin-care products based on a nebulous age category. Treating older or younger skin with products supposedly aimed at dealing with specific age ranges does not make sense because not everyone with “older” or “younger” skin has the same needs, yet it’s a trap many women (especially older women) fall into. An older person may have acne, blackheads, eczema, rosacea, sensitive skin, or oily skin, while a younger person may have dry, freckled, or obviously sun-damaged skin. Products designed for older skin are almost always too emollient and occlusive, and those designed for younger skin are almost always too drying. The key issue with skin type needs to be the actual condition of your skin, not your age.

All women, regardless of age, need sun protection and antioxidants, and possibly treatment of skin discolorations (either potential or existing), dry or oily skin, or breakouts. Wrinkles may tend to separate younger from older skin, but the care you give the skin doesn’t necessarily differ. Not everyone in their 40s and older has the same skin care needs. In a way it’s simple: You need to pay attention to what is taking place on your skin, and that varies from person to person.

Does Skin Color or Ethnicity Affect Skin Care?
All skin is subject to a range of problems, regardless of skin color or ethnic background. Whether it is dry or oily skin, blemishes, scarring, wrinkles, skin discolorations, disorders, or sensitivity, and even risk of sun damage, all men and women share similar struggles. So, while there are some distinctions between varying ethnic groups when it comes to skin problems and skin-care options, overall these differences are minor in comparison to the number of similarities.

According to an article in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology (February 2002, pages 41–62) “There is not a wealth of data on racial and ethnic differences in skin and hair structure, physiology, and function. What studies do exist involve small patient populations and often have methodological flaws. Consequently, few definitive conclusions can be made. The literature does support a racial differential in epidermal melanin [pigment] content and melanosome dispersion in people of color compared with fair-skinned persons…. These differences could at least in part account for the lower incidence of skin cancer in certain people of color compared with fair-skinned persons; a lower incidence and different presentation of photo aging; pigmentation disorders in people with skin of color; and a higher incidence of certain types of alopecia [loss of hair] in Africans and African Americans compared with those of other ancestry.”

This is from: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=SKIN&ID=40

If you wear foundation, have you considered a matte or ultra-matte foundation? Check out this other information:

Oil-free and matte liquid foundations
These almost always contain oils or ingredients that act or feel like oils, such as silicones. These oils and oil-like ingredients are not necessarily bad for any skin type, but their presence demonstrates that the term "oil-free" is another cosmetics industry contrivance that won't necessarily help you find the best product for your skin type. Keep in mind that what most of these foundations have in common (when they are well formulated), is that they dry to a matte finish, with no shine or dewy appearance. On the skin, oil-free, matte foundations look like a traditional liquid foundation, although they are often thicker in appearance and have no shine.

Pros: These foundations are the best choice for women who want balanced coverage with no shine at all, and who like a smooth, matte look. They last much longer on oily skin or oily areas than most other foundation types (except for the ultra-matte foundations).

Cons: There aren't many disadvantages to using this kind of foundation. Some of them can make the skin look or feel dry and flaky, but this is usually only true for those that contain talc or other absorbent ingredients.

Examples: Clinique Stay-True Makeup Oil-Free Formula ($16.50), Almay Wake Up Call Energizing Makeup SPF 15 ($11.99).

Ultra-matte foundations
These are an amazing group of products that truly stay put. Most have a very liquid consistency and are blended on like any other foundation, though precision blending is key. You have to be very careful about using a moisturizer under ultra-matte foundations. If you use too much or if you don't allow it to be adequately absorbed, it can make the foundation streak.

Today's ultra-matte foundations are less tenacious than earlier versions, but are also noticeably easier to blend and more forgiving of mistakes. The tradeoff for this added convenience is they do not wear as long as they used to, but most women will appreciate the extra "play" today's ultra-matte formulas have.

Pros: These foundations are a superior option if you have seriously oily skin, have trouble with makeup slipping or disappearing as the day goes by, live in a humid climate, exercise but still like having your makeup stay put, or like a completely matte finish. Ultra-matte foundations will outlast any other foundation, with no slippage or movement. If you have very oily skin, these are an absolute must to try.

Cons: There are many disadvantages to using ultra-matte foundation. Primarily, most of them go on rather heavy and look masklike, leaving the skin feeling very dry and taut. In order to get this makeup on evenly, you must blend quickly or it will dry in place before you know it, and then it can be difficult to blend further. Ultra-matte foundations have less movement than more emollient foundations, which means eyeshadow and blush have a tendency to stick to them; that can make blending and correcting mistakes a bit irksome.

Women of color should be careful when choosing ultra-matte foundation. Even if it is the right color, these foundations can tend to look gray and ashen after being applied to darker skin tones.

Ultra-matte foundations are also the most difficult type to remove. The number of ultra-matte foundations is dwindling, as women have undoubtedly had problems with them. This is unfortunate, as these ingenious formulations can work so well for truly oily skins.

Examples: Maybelline EverFresh Makeup SPF 14 ($7.49), Estee Lauder Double Wear Stay in Place Makeup SPF 10 ($28.50), BeautiControl Color Freeze Liquid Makeup SPF 12 ($20).

(From: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/article.asp?PAGETYPE=ART&REFER=MAKEUP&ID=35 )
 
Hi Gina...I've had oily skin on my face most of my adult life! I am 45 and when I was 30 I started breaking out right along my jawline. It was awful. At that point I went to a dermatologist and have been on some kind of Retin-A since. It has kept the oil down and I don't get any dry skin reaction from the Retin-A. I know it's not for everyone but it works for me....:)...Carole
 
Gina --

I have tried almost everything - prescription and non-prescription. What is working for me now is: Shiseido Pureness Foaming Cleansing fluid for my cleanser. Once in the morning prior to applying makeup -- once in the evening to remove makeup. The foundation I use is Maybelline Wonder Finish (a liquid-to-powder foundation.

This combination of cleanser and foundation has really reduced the oil. Of course I start to see it getting oily again around 3:30 or 4:00pm. But that is much better than it was before (oily about 20 minutes after I got ready for work in the AM).

Of course -- it seems that everyone is different (don't you get tired of hearing that?) and this might not work for you.

Shonie
 
Hi, Gina--

I've been using Origins products for a few years now with good results (www.origins.com). Here's what I use:

1. Mint Wash to wash my face and neck
2. Oil Refiner (like a toner that you sweep on with a cotton ball after you wash)
3. A Perfect World (supposed to help "erase" any damage you've done to your skin and help prevent future damage--probably a load of bull, but my skin feels & looks good!)
4. Matte Scientist oil-controlling moisturizer
5. Eye Doctor eye-area moisturizer

I struggled with oily skin for years and would compound the problem by using products that made my skin too dry, which I believe actually encourages it to produce more oil. I'm happy with the way my skin looks on most days. I still have the occasional breakout, but nothing like I used to. Especially when the seasons would change, for some reason my skin would really react to that, and I'd have serious breakouts for a few weeks until it would adjust and calm down. Now I never have those seasonal freak-outs. The only time I usually see noticeable blemishes is when I'm getting my period. For those, I use their Spot Remover gel. My skin still feels a little oily as the day goes on, but it doesn't have that shiny look to it.

Good luck; I hope you find something that works!

-Marie:)
 
Hi again--

I forgot to add what makeup I use--all from Clinique--Superfit foundation, Stay-Matte pressed powder and their powder blush.

Good luck!:)

-Marie
 
Wow- thank you SO much for taking the time to post all of that good info.

I guess I would describe my skin as combination. My nose, forehead, and a bit of my cheeks are usually oily while the rest is "normal."

I do have matte foundation, MAC Matte, which isn't streaky. I hardly wear it anymore, though, and just go for the concealer where I need it. I also have DDF Matte sunscreen which I find especially useful in the summer. It's a little harder to blend makeup over that, though.

I very ingredient conscious, wear sunscreen daily and really don't see much sun for more than half an hour a day, and I don't smoke. My parents smoke though, and have for my whole life (21 years). I know that smoking is a horrible addiction and difficult to kick, but I wish they'd stop. Does second-hand smoke have as much an affect on skin as actually smoking?

Anyway, thank you very much again!

Gina
 
Hi Carole!

Thanks for replying. I've been using Differin, which is similar to Retin-A. It hasn't made a difference for me, but I'm glad it worked for you!

Gina
 
Hi Shonie,

I really liked the Shiseido Pureness line. A little goes such a long way with those products. I mentioned in an early post though that I don't use them anymore because they are tested on animals, and I'm just a stickler about that.

Yes, we are all different lol! Thanks very much for replying!

Gina
 
Hi Marie,

I think I will look into the Matte Scientist from Origins. I completely agree that using products that over-dry your skin encourages more oil production. That's why I'm trying to get off the BenzaClin- sometimes it feels like I have a super-tight mask on!

Thanks for your advice!!!

Gina
 
Pro-Active - luv that stuff!!!

I too have had oily/acne skin all my life and it seems that we (oily skinned) people are always looking for the cure doesn't it??


Dawn
 
I've been using Paula's Choice skin products for a couple of years (cosmeticscop.com--from the first reply) and really like them. They are reasonably priced and they have something for every skin type.
 
Hi Dawn & Staci,

Thanks for your posts! I actually ordered ProActiv for like the third time last night, rush delivery lol. It's like "old faithful." I think I stop using it every so often because I like to try new things and am always in search of perfection. I sure hope it works- my skin is freakin out!!!

If it doesn't go well, I'll keep Paula's Choice in mind.

Oh- and a weird question... Every month or so, I get what I call an "inside out pimple." To the naked eye, there is nothing on my skin, except for when it gets really swollen after I've tried to get rid of it (bad idea lol). It feels like a hard lump under my skin and hurts to the touch, like a bruise. I looked up all different types of acne, and the only things that resembled the description are cysts & nodules. Then, I found a derm website with pictures, and they really don't look like what I have. Anyone ever experienced this?

Thanks!!!

Gina
 
Pro-Active did not work for me, neither did Differin. Started using Retin-A and that was a little too strong. I now use Renova which is Retin-a with a moisturizer in it and it works perfectly. My skin has never looked so good.

It's very expensive, about $75 a tube but the tube will last me 6 months to a year depending on how often I use it. I wear a Lancome matte foundation. Lancome and Clinique products are the only ones that don't make me break out.
 
Hi Candi,

Thanks for the tip! I think Renova might be a little to heavy for me now- it's a cream, right? I'm going to stick it out with the Differin for a while longer before I make any changes. I'll keep the other products in mind though, thanks!

It's too bad there isn't a one-size fits all!

Gina
 
Gina,

One size fits all would be too easy, right! LOL

Yes, Renova is a cream but it's not as drying as just straight Retin-A. I spent about three years looking for a product that would work for me. A girlfriend gave me a sample tube of Renova that she got from her dermotologist...and finally, a solution!

At first, I could use it three times a week. Now, I only use it once a week. I apply it to my face and my chest because I tend to break out there also at TTOM.

GOOD LUCK!

p.s. Those 'inside/out' pimples are the worst. OUCH! I used to get them at TTOM. I have a pretty little scar from one I tried to picked to death so be careful!
 
Another vote for Proactive products. I have a teenage son who uses the products and IF he uses them daily his skin clears up within days and stays that way. I can always tell when he gets lazy and isn't doing the skin care routine because the pimples on his face are the evidence! We also have recommended these products to other friends who have teens with acne and they all like the Proactive too.

Now, I'm in my forties and still occassionaly get a pimple so I use the pump product that Proactive has (it's supposed to be used in the shower) and that is all I need. If I try to use the 3-step skin care it dries my skin out too much. So, I would check out their web-site, request a catalog and decide if it's what you're looking for.
 
Origins products for oily skin are excellent - I have been using them for years, and they are really good for my oily, acne-prone skin.
 

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