O/T Should Terry Schiavo be made to live or die?

O/T Should Terry Schiavo be made to live or die?

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This is so sad and I have been taken up with it as well.
I was wondering today,what happens if she out lives her parents? Its possible.Who is going to sit with her then? You can see that her family loves her very much and visits her quit often.And if she does know that they are there I am sure that she will notice when they are not.
I wouldn't want to live my life like it.You have no quality of life.I am thinking I would be much better off in another place.
I just pray that they are right and she isn't suffering!
Lori
 
Can you guys please stop comparing her to the death row inmates?? These two are NOT ALIKE AT ALL. The inmates MURDERED people so of course the right wing people want them to be put to death. Terry did not kill anyone nor did she hurt anyone. She hurt herself apparently by being a bullimic. It's not right to let her die right now especially if some doctors say she could be rehabilated. PLUS, I do not listen to the press 100% because a lot of them are fabricated. The only people who know the truth are her husband, parents, doctors, nurses and God. Although I don't believe her husband 100% either. I think he is a slime.
 
Dave,

Thanks for your answer. It confirmed what I thought I already knew. That her husband is her legal guardian due to their marital status. I believe I read that in one of the articles regarding her case.

Just goes to show how many people are misinformed and will listen to rumor rather than the facts.
 
>>of late, I feel like I am living in the state delineated by Margaret Atwood in The Handmaid's Tale.<<

Garance - I've also been feeling this way since 2000, and it scares the crap out of me.

This case is so incredibly sad for all involved. I hope Terri finally gets the peace that she deserves.
 
> This is so sad and I have been taken up with it as well.
> I was wondering today,what happens if she out lives her
>parents? Its possible.Who is going to sit with her then? You
>can see that her family loves her very much and visits her
>quit often.And if she does know that they are there I am sure
>that she will notice when they are not.
> I wouldn't want to live my life like it.You have no quality
>of life.I am thinking I would be much better off in another
>place.
> I just pray that they are right and she isn't suffering!
> Lori

Hi Lori, She has a brother and a sister who want to take care of her too!!!

To have a guardian like her husband? No wonder she's doomed. Ugh!
I wouldn't wish him on my worst enemy. He doesn't give a d*** about her.
 
The husband’s alleged affair, new relationship, etc. are not relevant. His claim is not that “he” wants her to die but rather that “she” would have wanted that in this situation. If he were motivated by money, he’d be gone by now (good point, Dave, on the divorce, etc.). If he just didn’t want to be the one that was responsible to care for her, he’d also be gone by now, especially since her family is certainly willing to pick up the slack and take care of her. He is fighting for what he believes were her wishes (which we will never know b/c she didn’t prepare her family for this terrible decision). I have to think that if he has spent this much time, energy and money, that he isn’t just trying to do what he wants. I have to think that if there were alternative motivations (ie new woman, etc.) that he’d have just back ed down and let the family take care of her at this point.

This is a TERRIBLE situation and one that has gotten me thinking a lot about what my decision would be. If anyone learns anything from this, it is to be prepared, to have those conversations with your family and to be realistic that they may have to make that decision some day for you and the least that you can do is guide it for them. Even with that guidance, it must be so hard to be the enforcer of that wish.

Edited to say: I also don't think that it is fair to insert the tube and let her family care for her if her wishes were to not have the tube and not be kept alive in this circumstance.
 
This is heartbreaking. On the one hand, I can feel her parents pain. The mere thought of my kids is such a way is hard to bear. And her husband wants to let her go. I respect his right and his wish to do so. Fifteen years is a long time. I don't blame him for whatever life he has made and what he did prior to Terri's hert attack has no bearing on this situation. I feel deep sorrow for her parents and respect what they wish to do also.

I think we project our fear of death and pain onto these things. I don't thinks she's had much of a life for the past long years. Doctors may not take measures to hasten death other than removing life support. When life support is removed, the dying person is made comfortable with narcotics and it's dehydration that shuts down organs long before lack of food. Fully cognitive, terminally ill people may refuse a feeding tube and are allowed to die that way, with care taken to keep them as comfortable as possible. Cognitive function of the brain diminshes as death occurs in people who are not brain damaged. They slip into a coma. People who have near death experiences tend to describe the experience in similar ways. I hope I go quickly but I believe that as the brain dies it's not particularly painful but again we tend to project our fear onto the experience. The thought of death is sad and the thought of leaving breaks our hearts.

Live fully and be happy! Make yor wishes on the matter known.


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Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? - Mary Oliver
 
AS he moved on? I saw him on t.v with another women,I didn't know if he had remarried or not.
I was wondering,is there any life insurance? Maybe thats why he really wants to plug to be pulled.
Lori
 
Thank you, Midnight. This has really got me thinking about how frail life can be. I would hope that if something happened to one of my three children I would honor life by carrying on and learning to live fully and joyfully in due time. I have comtemplated the idea of what it would take to donate the organs of a lost child and even now tears well up in my eyes but I think it would have to be done. I think the Shindler's have held onto Terri to long, too hard and while I understand the love that drives them, I feel sad for Terri, a shell, lost in a sort of limbo between living and death and it's not an existance I would choose for myself or my loved ones. Every living thing dies and the best we can do is try to make it the best it can be. Should I lose my consciousness, I don't want anyone to hold on to my outer shell. I want it cremated and sent off on the wind, returning to the fabric of the universe. Death is a shadow that follows all of us and sorrow will accompany it. But a life lived with passion and joy will ultimately be remembered in the same way. Grief passes but only when you let go because it is futile to hold on to anything but the love. Memories of love will sustain us and we will know that we are blessed to have known love and it is not lost with the passing. I pray that they find peace and I think they will if they let it be and remember Terri's life, too short but full, I hope. Her death will be harder. May she find peace. May they all find peace.
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Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life? - Mary Oliver
 
From what I have seen, I dont think she will ever recover. However, only God should take her life. How dare these peope to stop feeding her.
 
There's so much incongruency in this world it's frightening.

Bobbi,

The feelings voiced in your last post mirror mine. Our shell is just that, a shell...it's our spirit and the pieces of ourselves that have touched others and remain on this earth that matter, IMHO.
 
>Thank you, Midnight. This has really got me thinking about
>how frail life can be. I would hope that if something
>happened to one of my three children I would honor life by
>carrying on and learning to live fully and joyfully in due
>time. I have comtemplated the idea of what it would take to
>donate the organs of a lost child and even now tears well up
>in my eyes but I think it would have to be done. I think the
>Shindler's have held onto Terri to long, too hard and while I
>understand the love that drives them, I feel sad for Terri, a
>shell, lost in a sort of limbo between living and death and
>it's not an existance I would choose for myself or my loved
>ones. Every living thing dies and the best we can do is try
>to make it the best it can be. Should I lose my
>consciousness, I don't want anyone to hold on to my outer
>shell. I want it cremated and sent off on the wind, returning
>to the fabric of the universe. Death is a shadow that follows
>all of us and sorrow will accompany it. But a life lived with
>passion and joy will ultimately be remembered in the same way.
> Grief passes but only when you let go because it is futile to
>hold on to anything but the love. Memories of love will
>sustain us and we will know that we are blessed to have known
>love and it is not lost with the passing. I pray that they
>find peace and I think they will if they let it be and
>remember Terri's life, too short but full, I hope. Her death
>will be harder. May she find peace. May they all find peace.




Beautiful Bobbi, exactly the way it should be stated.
 
I have heard it said that you are immortal as long as someone remembers your name but our names will fade; if we put lots of love out there and it carries on, now that's a legacy. I am work in progress and I am working on my legacy. I'm off to hug some children. Death certainly humbles us.
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Man improves himself as he follows his path; if he stands still, waiting to improve before he makes a decision, he'll never move.

-Paulo Coelho
 
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