I've said it once but I will say it again: not everyone has internet access. I'm at a public library to write this so I am EXTREMELY grateful that Cathe continues to produce dvds. It seems like there is a lot of unnecessary rudeness being expressed that is not very nice or productive. Cathe has been a very important part of my life, although we don't know each other, and will continue to be instrumental in helping me remain strong and healthy.
Lift, Move & Restore Update…10/28/24
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AVeyRa
Cathlete
Unpopular opinion, fully prepared to be lambasted, but let the chips fall:
Y’all need to chill out.
Pre-payment for a DVD series is a capital investment so that the series can actually get made. Exercise videos are not a huge moneymaker and neither is owning and operating a gym — especially in this day and age when loads of “influencer” content is free on YouTube (Caroline Girven, for example). We pre-pay so Cathe Inc has the money to give us the quality product we have come to expect over years of trust and consistent product excellence. Once the series is in your hands you will likely forget that you had to wait so long for it; you will love it, you will use it all the time and you will be grateful someone put so much effort into making a series like no other on the market.
As for “excuses”:
I have been a Cathe customer for over 20 years and I’ve never known Cathe to lie, make false promises or not deliver on something she said she was going to do. Her reputation, business, staff, and future ventures are on the line every time she puts out a new series. That doesn’t seem to be something she takes lightly. There are behind the scenes things that happen that are out of her control (logistics, software, staffing issues, capital issues, supply-chain hiccups, health concerns — all kinds of scenarios) that can affect product delivery. A company owner has to be very selective in what they share so that it doesn’t reveal the shortcomings or personal details of others (so that it looks like she’s dragging someone else down) or make too many excuses (because that makes the company look weak, like they can’t deliver a product). One also has to make sure they aren’t pushing a product too quickly, taking shortcuts and delivering something that skips, isn’t chaptered, doesn’t jive with the Workout Blender, has terrible music, or has odd voice levels, bad lighting, etc.). As an aside, I remember well the very minor issues STS 2.0 had with one (or two?) discs that Cathe promptly replaced, free of charge.
All that to say:
Yes, the series was promised for “Summer 2024” and yes, it is now early November. But to insinuate that someone we have all come to trust and admire is lying to you when you have to wait a little while for what we know is going to be an excellent product is just rude and hurtful. Y’all can do better.
I am excited to get the new series. I look forward to using it. I am sorry and a little disappointed that it’s taking longer than expected, but I refuse to attack someone I know is working their butt off every day for me. Knock it off and show some love and understanding.
Y’all need to chill out.
Pre-payment for a DVD series is a capital investment so that the series can actually get made. Exercise videos are not a huge moneymaker and neither is owning and operating a gym — especially in this day and age when loads of “influencer” content is free on YouTube (Caroline Girven, for example). We pre-pay so Cathe Inc has the money to give us the quality product we have come to expect over years of trust and consistent product excellence. Once the series is in your hands you will likely forget that you had to wait so long for it; you will love it, you will use it all the time and you will be grateful someone put so much effort into making a series like no other on the market.
As for “excuses”:
I have been a Cathe customer for over 20 years and I’ve never known Cathe to lie, make false promises or not deliver on something she said she was going to do. Her reputation, business, staff, and future ventures are on the line every time she puts out a new series. That doesn’t seem to be something she takes lightly. There are behind the scenes things that happen that are out of her control (logistics, software, staffing issues, capital issues, supply-chain hiccups, health concerns — all kinds of scenarios) that can affect product delivery. A company owner has to be very selective in what they share so that it doesn’t reveal the shortcomings or personal details of others (so that it looks like she’s dragging someone else down) or make too many excuses (because that makes the company look weak, like they can’t deliver a product). One also has to make sure they aren’t pushing a product too quickly, taking shortcuts and delivering something that skips, isn’t chaptered, doesn’t jive with the Workout Blender, has terrible music, or has odd voice levels, bad lighting, etc.). As an aside, I remember well the very minor issues STS 2.0 had with one (or two?) discs that Cathe promptly replaced, free of charge.
All that to say:
Yes, the series was promised for “Summer 2024” and yes, it is now early November. But to insinuate that someone we have all come to trust and admire is lying to you when you have to wait a little while for what we know is going to be an excellent product is just rude and hurtful. Y’all can do better.
I am excited to get the new series. I look forward to using it. I am sorry and a little disappointed that it’s taking longer than expected, but I refuse to attack someone I know is working their butt off every day for me. Knock it off and show some love and understanding.
FitSaxe
Cathlete
Hi everyone,
Oops I am joining the "prepared to be lambasted" wagon just to add: loyal cathletes/Hardcore usually own the entire collection.
That being, we can always reach out for other Cathe's gems. Some rely on you tube stuff etc..... No judgment.... I chose to solely workout Cathe and or my own stuff. I work out 95% Cathe and I don't feel missing out on anything.
I am chilling and patiently waiting as always. Life is too short to let oneself "being disappointed" for this delay. Just saying!
I will be sad if she stops making DVDs. I don't want to buy an unchaptered download, and I don't want to subscribe to her full library or the cheaper live option either. I simply hate streaming for exercise, as I pause, FF, Rewind and skip chapters a lot with a DVD remote that is more fully functional than a roku remote. Sad because I think going forward she WILL offer less intense workouts as she herself gets older and be more sensitive to that issue. Just very sad....I am 67 years old. Just FYI I do love streaming movies and prefer that to DVDs so its not that I don't love tech, I actually do. I tried Jessica Smith streaming and hated it.
FitSaxe
Cathlete
I would be sad if Cathe stops producing dvds. They are pretty much a "luxury" compared to free stuff posted on YouTube. As far as quality is concerned, there is no comparison. IMO
That said, I stick to what works for me.
I am a tech person too.
Lady Vol Fan
Cathlete
From what I understand, the downloads of the workouts don't include the wonderful options of having premixes that DVDs offer?
FitSaxe
Cathlete
Lady Vol Fan
Cathlete
My appreciation of Cathe's past library of workouts isn't lessened by my desire/expectation of receiving an update on delivery of a workout I preordered.
If anything, it shows my continued interest in what she produces...and that the length of time between my payment in February hasn't dampened my interest in the finished product.
In fact, asking for an updated timeline on delivery of what I ordered shows my continued loyalty (instead of asking for a cancellation of my order.)
Hopefully we can all carry on anticipating this release by either asking for updates... or silently not desiring updates. Neither expression during this delay is any less (or more) of a Cathe customer.
If anything, it shows my continued interest in what she produces...and that the length of time between my payment in February hasn't dampened my interest in the finished product.
In fact, asking for an updated timeline on delivery of what I ordered shows my continued loyalty (instead of asking for a cancellation of my order.)
Hopefully we can all carry on anticipating this release by either asking for updates... or silently not desiring updates. Neither expression during this delay is any less (or more) of a Cathe customer.
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FitSaxe
Cathlete
I think you have missed the point.
The Cathe collection offers numerous workouts.
Enough alternatives to outweigh the inconvenience caused by the "delay" #IMHO
WOW! I didn't see any rudeness before this post. Your own post here is a bit offensive. We don't need to be talked to like we're children.
Debinmi
Cathlete
Actually I hope & pray she doesn't rant to anyone like this, let alone her children or husband!
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it’s been years since I got dvd downloads, but back then, they did have chapter points
that showed up in my iPod touch. I assume the downloads now, still do. I don’t think
downloads have premixes, but maybe if there is “bonus” material with a particular
workout, you might get those with a download, I am not sure…maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!
that showed up in my iPod touch. I assume the downloads now, still do. I don’t think
downloads have premixes, but maybe if there is “bonus” material with a particular
workout, you might get those with a download, I am not sure…maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!
Debinmi
Cathlete
Hopefully someone "in the know" will be brave enough to inform us. I've wondered about the bonus material too. [Really, there's only been one tirade (so far) & hopefully no more]maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!
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I very much appreciate that you can still purchase DVDs. The trend of companies not offering anything unless you sign up for a subscription has become more and more frustrating in recent years. I have exercise equipment and DVDs I have been using for more than 20 years. A one-time purchase is so much cheaper than 20 years of monthly fees, and I am glad that even though Cathe offers subscriptions, I can purchase even the Live workouts and use them without paying for a subscription (at least until I can no longer buy or service a device that plays them).
I often get downloads and DVDs, but have not figured out how to forward to a certain point on a download. The bonuses have come as a separate small download included with the purchase of the workout; you have to click on that one to download it in addition. I have not been able to play them as part of the workout; I would pause the main program, open the bonus and play it, then go back to the main program for remainder.it’s been years since I got dvd downloads, but back then, they did have chapter points
that showed up in my iPod touch. I assume the downloads now, still do. I don’t think
downloads have premixes, but maybe if there is “bonus” material with a particular
workout, you might get those with a download, I am not sure…maybe someone that
gets downloads, will respond…..if they dare!
Debinmi
Cathlete
Thanks for sharing. Years ago, for the Shock Cardio series (2009 maybe), Cathe/SNM gifted us the downloads when we purchased the pre-sale on the dvds so we could try them out. I downloaded them, but never really used them except to preview the workouts because I prefer the dvds. I'm going to look them up this week and try them out for the chaptering - I don't think there was any bonus content tho.
FitSaxe
Cathlete
I have been ordering dvds and downloads for years. Downloads do not contain premixes. Premixes are customized workout, made by selecting various chapters/segments.
Bonuses are separated from workout. They are offered as segment, as workouts. They are literally chapters.
Tecs savvy make premixes by either subscribing to cathe on demand or by using external softwares. Another way of having premixes is simply purchase dvds as they contain premixes. With dvds, premixes are already made, ready to be played. Blending/customizing workouts requires time and skills.
Hope anyone wondering what a dvd has to offer get the answer to the question.
Bonuses are separated from workout. They are offered as segment, as workouts. They are literally chapters.
Tecs savvy make premixes by either subscribing to cathe on demand or by using external softwares. Another way of having premixes is simply purchase dvds as they contain premixes. With dvds, premixes are already made, ready to be played. Blending/customizing workouts requires time and skills.
Hope anyone wondering what a dvd has to offer get the answer to the question.
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Aahh, I had forgotten about that! I can't remember if I took advantage of that or not......
and that computer is long gone..........I don't think I did.............