I have heard people mention using Janis and Billy now and then......does anyone really enjoy Janis Saffell and why?? I am just curious I guess........I have listened to the advice on this forum and apparently kickbox is a great way to slim the thighs, but the only dvds I have are KM and getting KPC in the mail today. I have Taibo (tons of them) but I am SOOOOOOOO SICK of them! I did them for about four years in college and just cannot bust out them anymore......so I was thinking of ordering another kickbox.....