Is this reasonable?

Yeah, I'd have to go with the opinion that guidelines are good for people. The workplace example is excellent....and it is church, well your church that you chose to attend, I assume? I'm not sure of too many churches that would look kindly on a crowd that looks ready for the mosh pit or whatever.


"You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the hell she is." -- Ellen DeGeneres


Debbie:p
 
It's just nice to see that the men were included in the dress code. It seems like people are always trying to cover up women and the men can do anything they want.

I hate one pieces, so I wouldn't go just because of that. }(
 
>Yeah, I'd have to go with the opinion that guidelines are
>good for people. The workplace example is excellent....and it
>is church, well your church that you chose to attend, I
>assume? I'm not sure of too many churches that would look
>kindly on a crowd that looks ready for the mosh pit or
>whatever.
>
>
>"You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started
>walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and
>we don't know where the hell she is." -- Ellen DeGeneres
>
>
>Debbie:p


I have yet to see anyone in swimwear in a mosh pit, but maybe I just missed a good concert.

Charlotte~~
 
Well, uhhhh, some wear even less than that. I've seen some crazy outfits at concerts.



"You have to stay in shape. My grandmother, she started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 today and we don't know where the hell she is." -- Ellen DeGeneres


Debbie
 
My problem with this is a pastor or clergy dictating what you should do. Making more or less a rule. Why not mention that modest dress would be apprectiated and leave it at that. Why not treat people like they have a brain and are due some respect.
 
>Okay, I was trying not to be rude here, but do you really
>want big ol' Uncle Frank showing up in a Speedo with all his
>junk on display?:p Or Betty wearing her totally inappropriate
>bikini (it's not a thong or a Brazilian)? The majority of the
>populace doesn't work out like we do. And as for the other
>people on the beach, well you don't have to look at them in
>church every week and be reminded of the horrors lurking under
>their church clothes.
>
>So there.;)


Shelley- In the case of where I live, it would be Uncle Bubba and Aunt Betty Jo coming out in the Speedos

No, I don't think that this is unreasonable. My father is a pastor and having grown up in the church you really don't know what others see as "appropriate" at church functions unless you've been there....BELIEVE ME, VERY SCARY!
Now, I don't think that a 2 pc tankini is out of line as long as it's not inappropriate for church function.

I'll bet you, though, that being a church function, only about 15% of the people with show up with their bathing suit anyway, the rest will be too embarassed or uncomfortable.
 
I'll take a slightly different approach here ... I find it interesting that all MUST wear swimsuits ... at a church-related event I don't think I'd wear a suit, but rather shorts/tee, ... it's a little too much familiarity with people I have to interact with throughout the year ... sort of like I wouldn't necessarily want to see all my coworkers "stuff" hang out, whether it was in good form or not ... it's just a little too personal for people with whom I have a different type of relationship.

Also, why is that the men seem to be more covered up than the women? ... all women MUST wear a one-piece ... all men MUST wear long trunks AND a shirt ... what's up with that? ... seeing more female parts exposed than male? hmmmm....:)
 
My daughter just spent a week at a church run camp. They were very clear in the information pamphlet that no two pieces were allowed. I was a bit put off at having to buy her 2 one piece bathing suits for the week but understood the underlying message of modesty in a church based setting (temptation, coveting and all that). I resepct the pastor for being up front and letting expectations be known. If I felt strongly opposed to adhereing to the guidlines I wouldn't have sent my daughter but why deprive her of a memorable time just to be contrary.

You're quite the hottie Charlotte and would look good in a burlap sack. The one piece has come along way and some of them are d@mn sexy.

Take Care
Laurie:)
 
I'm curious, was this a church decision, or a pastoral decision? It would seriously bother me for a pastor to mandate this if he hadn't consulted others in your church on this issue. If it reflects the feelings of the majority of your congregation it sounds appropriate, but if it is the pastor throwing holy wieght around it doesn't. I don't think people stop and think enough about the power people in the clergy have and how it is sometimes abused. The way you worded your post concerns me. It sounds so authoritative and that raised red flags for me, but I wasn't there.
 
Annette Bethel

Pastor must be a man :), it sends signals out the wrong signals and vibes to me. But to be on this side of heaven, I would wear a one piece thong :D, LOL, in virgin Mary Blue!!! Annette
 
Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of people know how to dress appopriately. Go to any beach or pool and you will see that there is a lot of junk hanging out. I can see why the pastor would want to avoid such a situation, it doesn't fit at a church function! So where does he draw the line? He sets it up so that everyone's junk is covered...male and female. He can't say "The hot and fit can sport strings but those who are not hot must cover it up". My guess is this is not his first lake party and he wasn't born yesterday.

I am sure if you showed up in a tankini, you would not be tossed out.

As for the debate on guidelines to begin with, it's his function and no one has to go. If we get invited to a party and the hostess says "bring a side dish to share", we don't shudder with offense over the 'guidelines'...we wonder if we should bring an appetizer or dessert. How about an "Adult Only Wedding Reception"...we don't drag our kids in there anyway because "How dare they inflict these guidelines".

He's not asking everyone to drain the blood out of chickens, he asking for conservative dress at what is notoriously a conservative function.

Just my thoughts...
 
It doesn't sound as if the man has much faith in his flock if he thinks a man's bare torso or the sight of a woman's midriff is going to cause meltdowns. Isn't he concerned about cleavage? Shouldn't the women be covered up with t-shirts then, too? If people need to be THAT regulated, maybe a picnic by the lake just isn't a good idea.
 
>Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of people know how to
>dress appopriately. Go to any beach or pool and you will see
>that there is a lot of junk hanging out. I can see why the
>pastor would want to avoid such a situation, it doesn't fit at
>a church function! So where does he draw the line? He sets
>it up so that everyone's junk is covered...male and female.
>He can't say "The hot and fit can sport strings but those who
>are not hot must cover it up". My guess is this is not his
>first lake party and he wasn't born yesterday.
>
>I am sure if you showed up in a tankini, you would not be
>tossed out.
>
>As for the debate on guidelines to begin with, it's his
>function and no one has to go. If we get invited to a party
>and the hostess says "bring a side dish to share", we don't
>shudder with offense over the 'guidelines'...we wonder if we
>should bring an appetizer or dessert. How about an "Adult
>Only Wedding Reception"...we don't drag our kids in there
>anyway because "How dare they inflict these guidelines".
>
>He's not asking everyone to drain the blood out of chickens,
>he asking for conservative dress at what is notoriously a
>conservative function.
>
>Just my thoughts...

Ditto. And, hilarious. :D

Sparrow

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ‘Wow - what a ride!’ — Peter Sage
 
I would not go if I were offended by this, and yes, I would be offended. Why can't the men go without shirts...for swimming. That is crazy. And, I have seen some one piece suits that are much more revealing than a bikini!!

I think it is crazy. But then again, I think a lot of things that pastors/preachers do can be strange. I have stopped attending church because of some strange encounters with the pastor at church.

This guy is probably trying to be wholesome, but you are going to the beach, not a church dinner in the basement!

Sara
http://www.picturetrail.com/saraburnham1
 
Awww...geeze....it is just a few hours in ONE day of the 365 days we have in a year???....But I am more of the shorts and tee shirt type person in a crowd anyway....:)
 
My oldest son is in the process of beginning his first job as an assistant pastor - this is just an example of what he has to look forward to! I was married to a minister and worked at a church - it's not a job for the faint of heart, nor the thin of skin!

"You can't win them all - but you can try." - Babe Zaharias http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-004.gif[/img]
 
Hi, Charlotte:

Well, I am not one to be told what to wear as I think I have great taste :) , but I don't think this is really an unreasonable request. I mean, he's only asking that everyone be appropriately covered at a church-sponsored event and didn't dictate sackcloth and ashes or anything. Also, consider that there will probably be a lot of kids around, and I personally don't like my boys over-exposed to women in strings and general ridiculousness, not because my kids are lechers-in-training, but because there is SO MUCH skin everywhere and I want them to learn to respect women for other assets than the mammographic ones, you know?? Also, consider all of the leering old men that may be there (hehehe)... so it may be in your best interest as well. :)

Good luck - let us know what you decide to do.

Marie

PS: One pieces don't have to be matronly, either, have you looked around at all?
 
Thanks for all the replies. Everyone has some good points to share. I might get a one piece one day if I can find one like Kmali's red one. HOT!

Charlotte~~
 
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