Do I have to go this "Vacation"

WantFit

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I need some help and advice for this matter.

My husband's family has no written rule that all family members have to be together on all holidays and weekends. I tried my best to go to weekend gethering. My MIL started preparing food Saturday, sometimes even Friday night for the gethering. We will get together (his sister, her husband and 3 teenager kids, my husband, me and my two kids, his brother) eat "lunchdinner" (since their rule is eat after 2:00pm, anywhere between 2:00 - 5:00pm depends on when all members arrived), then women help out cleaning, men and kids either watching TV or sleeping in the coutchs. I am not happy about this schedule because first, we are busy during the week days. When weekend comes, there are so much to take care in the house. Go to this gethering, we basically could do nothing on Sunday. Second, I am not used to their eating time. I am hungry by 12:00pm, but can not eat until after 2:00pm, then there is no dinner since we come home around 7:00pm, sometimes even later. 3rd, the gether does not serve its purpose from my point of view. Women works, and guys sleeping or watching TV, all in basement. Nothing appears to me that they are communicating. If just go to my in law's house watching TV and sleeping, I would rather do it at home. At least I can choose TV program I like to see (they always watche Simpson's, I don't think it's appropriate for my 7 year old daughter). Most of time, after I helped cleaning, I just sat in the table chair for the day turned to dark. There is not enough couches to sit, and the bed upstairs is in really bad shape. I don't think everyone likes this tradition, but since my in law like it, we have to keep coming back every Sunday...

Then they have this rule that we all need to take a week, or at least some days to live in a less than 800 square foot summer house my father in law bought more than 30 years ago. Nothing really being updated in the house. We have to drive at least 5 hours if we are lucky there is no traffic. By the time we were there, we were all tired. But we have to work to get everything ready for use including making the beds. Now with my husband and his sister married, and have kids, his brother was engaged, there is not enough space for sleeping or doing anything. We all squeezed in several bunker beds or fultons that are all in bad shape. The snoring is just annoying. I could not sleep at all. Then bathroom issue, there is only one bathroom. My experience there is clean, cook, eat, clean...there is no time to enjoy, relax. The day driving back home was exhausted, too. Get up in the moring, all women help cleaning floor, furniture and packing...then long drive. Last year, since I just had my son, we did have excuse not to go. Of course that excuse was not good enough since my mother in law said my sister in law brought her new born baby there and kept him sleeping in the shoe box:-(

Now time comes, last night my husband insisted that we should spend a week there with his family. I just could not do it no more. I am almost 40 years old. I am no longer a teenager that can sleep in any corner. I have a demanding job during the week. I can't imagine how I could survive one week with no sleep and good eating (btw, they all eat non heathly stuff, lot of fried food, cheese, bacon... you name it)My husband said I don't need to do the house chores, just watching our son. And I knew exactly what it felt like. In April we went to water park for a mini vacation. We brought my mother in law with us. We stayed in hotel (thank God). But we lived in a suite. During the day, my husband took my daughter playing in the water park, my MIL also enjoyed herself there. I was the one staying and babysitting my son. April was still cold here. We had to stay in door water park. I was sitting there either too hot or too cold. 2 days without any sleep. My son is very rigid with his routine. He normally sleeps around 7 - 7:30pm, with all lights and sounds out. When we were at the hotel suite, by 7:00pm, I was ready to pass out with my son. But my in law was not ready. She wanted to watch TV or read the paper. My son did not want to go into playpen with lights and sounds on. I ended up holding him and rocking him more than an hour until my MIL finally decided to go to hot tub, leaving the room...Then the snoring... I told him, vacation to me is relax and rest. I did not want "babysitting" all the time again. He had a huge problem with that. He said as a mother, how could I not want to babysit our son. I told him there was no good place to sleep in the summer house. He said I could bring the tent and sleep in the tent;( I understand this house is very sentiment to him. His dad bought it and they spent every summer there. His dad passed away 3 years ago. But my point is I did not mean to forget his dad. The house could no longer serve its purpose at its original state. All his brother and sister grew up. All has family and children now. How could you expect the same tiny house with one bathroom to hold 11 people. Strong family link should not just based on the form. If they don't really want to know or understand what's going on in each member's life, just being together physically doesn't mean a close knit family. But he did not agree. He said he would compromise by just staying there 4 days instead of whole week. I don't really want to drain myself in such a vacation. He said I complained too much...We had a fight last night over this...His sistered called last night asking us which date we will go because she need to schedule the same date to go with us.

Am I wrong not going to this family vacation? How could I persuade him that I did not mean dislike his family, but I really need rest with my fulltime job and 2 kids (one is just over 12 mos)?

Sorry for bothering your time. Thanks for letting me venting...

WantFit
 
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That sounds like the world's WORST vacation to me. I would hate that so much, so I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. If it were me, I would just not go, and let DH go by himself. Yeah, DH will be cranky and whiny about it, but he needs to realize that you mean business when you say these "vacations" are stressful and no fun. So, just don't go. Plain and simple.

There are plenty of other ways to keep family ties strong, and honestly, 11 people sleeping in a tiny house is probably the worst way to keep a family close. I get so irritated at family members who think that "traditions" must be carried on forever, no matter how ridiculous or inconveniencing they are. There comes a time when old traditions must die, and new traditions must be born.
 
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>My husband's family has no written rule that all family
>members have to be together on all holidays and weekends.

> then women help out cleaning, men and kids either
>watching TV or sleeping in the coutchs. I am not happy about
>this schedule because first, we are busy during the week days.
> When weekend comes, there are so much to take care in the
>house.


Are our husband's families related?! That is what are weekends have been like since school got out. We would spend an entire Saturday together and then my phone rings first thing Sunday morning asking what we are going to do that day. I know it sounds mean, but I'm going to start making plans ahead of time. So, when they call I won't feel as guilty.

Ditto on the women cleaning, cooking, etc. and the guys are watching whatever they want to watch on TV. I do have to admit my dh can clean a kitchen like no ones business though. He puts me to shame.

I'm not sure who has it worst me or you! At least it's only a week vacation and not a way of life. I agree with Emily. Could your husband go without you? That's no way to spend your vacation.

Hope it all works out!

Dallas
 
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I can't even imagine doing this!!!! First of all it would take a eternity to do anything with my in laws as a group. Easter and Christmas are enough. Second my family and I are really tight just as your inlaws may be. BUT I don't think I could go on any type of trip with my three sisters and there three husbands and our 13 kids between us plus my parents. It is really funny you bring this up. My sister came up here last week and we were talking about our summer vacations this year and my sis said how we could as a family never do this for conflicting personality issues. Don't get me wrong we all love each other but were not kids anymore. How us four girls made it through puberity was enough to do us in for a lifetime. I think a day or even three would be fine all in all but not a week. Especailly not with a twleve month old. We all have our own schedules, things we like, don't like. Trying to mesh all those things in one tight place is WORK not a VACATION. Sorry I am not much help but i have to stick behind you on this one. I feel for you. Karen
 
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I get so irritated at
>family members who think that "traditions" must be carried on
>forever, no matter how ridiculous or inconveniencing they are.
> There comes a time when old traditions must die, and new
>traditions must be born.

I agree.
It sounds like there is no real reason or desire for people to get together, just a tradition that no one wants to break. And it's hard to believe the "women do the cleaning while men lounge around and watch TV" thing is still going on! My mother's family did that every Thanksgiving.

I agree that your DH should go if he wants, but you should not have to go if you don't want. Why not start a more meaningful tradition of having some people over for special dinners or something? Or, even better, all going to a special restaurant (where the employee's do the clean-up?)
 
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Hi Wantfit,

I would do just about anything to get out of that, too. Hope you don't put yourself through it. The age of late twenties/thirties is when most women seem to learn through hard lessons, how to say no and let go of trying to please people when it doesn't work for you. There's a peaceful sureness that you develop and you're working on it right now.

I'm 40 and I learned it all the hard way too.

I hope you find a solution. You work hard enough with a fulltime job and two very small kids.

hugs ;-) Bella
 
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ps. If you like we will all write you a note that says, please excuse wantfit from this lovely gathering. :)
 
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I'm so glad I live 1200 miles from my family . Good luck.Hugs to you ..Plus I would not go !!! Tell your hubby it can be his time with them .It will be good for him !!}( }(
 
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The women cook and clean and the men sleep really struck a cord with me. When I married my husband almost 26 years ago, we went to his aunt's for my first "extended family dinner" with them. My MIL is one of eleven children. I was in shock. When "dinner is ready" was announced, I found a chair and sat down. Well... I was soon told by DH's aunt that I couldn't sit yet. The men ate first. No I am not kidding. They men all came in and ate while the women waited on them... after they had cooked. Then the kids came in and ate after the men. The men went out to sit under the trees and talk. After the kids ate, the women could then sit down and eat what was left and then washed the dishes and clean the kitchen. I thought I'd gone to sleep and woke up on another planet. I haven't been there in years to eat mainly because we moved away, not far about 45 minutes but we use to live next door.

They are good people, the best just from a "different time" from me.

Needless to say DH was in for some seriously re-training which I am happy to say has been accomplished in the 26 years we've been together.
 
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Wow, are you married to my ex-bf? It sounds exactly the same. The odd thing was BF never got that I just didn't enjoy those "vacations". If I do go, I spent 90% of the time doing my own thing and ended up making waves anyway. So I ended up avoiding them and staying home.

Is there a way to compromise and not do it every single vacation, holiday? Shoot we were even expected to show up weekly for Sunday night dinners. And do the whole women clean, serve men, women clean up, then go home late and try to get ready for the week. I used to tell my ex if we could only do maybe half the "events" or get togethers, I'd survive but doing all of them just made me hate them even worse and made me more bitter.

Good luck.

Colleen
 
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As Collen pointed out, if you do something you don't want to do, which in this case is extremely disagreeable on all counts, you will end up being very resentful over it.


We all know it takes compromise to make a relationship work, but some things, you should not compromise. Choose your battles and this should be one of them. It is all around unpalatable for you and nothing rewarding will come of it. Just don't back down one time and hopefully it will be easier for you to stomach standing up to the MIL when this comes up again. You'll feel better about yourself and you are doing NOTHING wrong by refusing to participate in this "vacation".


The whole women cooking & cleaning while the men flop on the couch is a whole other issue. Don't even get me started.

Good Luck,
Marla
 
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My inlaws do this too! I get around it by either being busy (hard to do for a week!) or watching my husband have a good time with his family, or deciding that I'm a man for a day (specifically, Thanksgiving) and I go in and hang out with them instead of the women!
It's worked so far. No one has said anything to me, at least.
 
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The men ate first. No I am not kidding.
>They men all came in and ate while the women waited on them...
>after they had cooked. Then the kids came in and ate after
>the men. The men went out to sit under the trees and talk.
>After the kids ate, the women could then sit down and eat what
>was left and then washed the dishes and clean the kitchen.

>
>Needless to say DH was in for some seriously re-training which
>I am happy to say has been accomplished in the 26 years we've
>been together.
:eek:

Now THAT sounds like something out of the 50's!
Glad you succeeded in retraining DH.
 
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Thanks ladies for your supports and understanding. I am relief that I am not a bad wife because I don’t want to do this vacation.

I told my husband that if he wanted to go he could go. But he said that was not acceptable. As a family, husband and wife and kids have to be together. As a matter of fact, he hardly lets me do anything by myself unless he was really busy. He wants to have his hands in everything. (He used to tell me that we should talk with each other when purchasing items over $25. That's ridiculous. I have been dealing with my own financials and I am professional in finance area for more than 15 years. Of course I dismissed his requirement.) He told me that if I don’t want to go with all his family members, we have to be there with his mom. It’s not like we did not get a chance to see his mom. His mom lives 15 minutes away from us. She had to check in all three of her children every day. If one does not talk with her, she told us she would panic. She would come to our house any time when she wants to see our son, without even a phone call… She is a good person. It’s just she could not let go of her children is too much for me. She wants us get together. But she complains she had to cook so much so long, without any help. I don’t understand why she wants to put herself through so much pain. And my husband just could not take her tears, especially after his dad passed away.

Dallas, my husband’s family is 100% Sicilian. Maybe our husband’s families are related. LOL!!

Mary, you are lucky you are 1200 miles away from your family. I should have insisted that we stay in New York when we got married. Now we stuck here next door to my MIL in Midwest.

Jane, I admire your patience and strength. I think I should register my husband in your retraining program. LOL..My husband grew up in this men dominant family. Women stayed at home after married. Women take care of everything inside the house, men take care of outdoor chores. Women were not involved in any important decisions since they were not equipped enough to do so…

I know there is long and tough journey ahead of us. But at least we still love each other. With you guys’ supports, hopefully I can get thru this without hurting his egoism.

Thanks everyone. Cyber hugs to you all…
:)
 
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>
>Dallas, my husband’s family is 100% Sicilian. Maybe our
>husband’s families are related. LOL!!
>
My husband is 100% Greek. It sounds like they grew up in similar households. For some reason, thankfully for me, my dh doesn't fit the typical mold. He helps out with cooking, cleaning, etc. He's great with the kids. He didn't when we first got married, but I don't think I can take all the credit for retraining him. I think he's just has more of his mom's tendencies.

I know what you mean about cutting the ol' apron strings. It hasn't been done with my dh and his two other brothers. but it has gotten better. Thankfully, my two sil's are on the same page. We can call each other up and vent. Venting is good! }(

Hang in there. Hope your vacation works out.

Dallas
 

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