Daycare?

marnold

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I read this today and was so horrified!

I for one have not grown accustomed to these kinds of stories. It is absolutely horrifying.

I don't have children and have no opinion on staying at home or not with children. It is really none of my business and has no affect on me one way or the other. My mother worked and I went to daycare. Purely her decision and I have no ill feelings towards her for it. I turned out okay.

The question I have is how on earth do you know if your children are safe any more!

Sorry I just had to vent...I feel sorry for all of the mothers who trusted this daycare...UGHHH!

Newborn Found with Pacifier Taped in Mouth, Nursery Shutdown
Thursday, September 27, 2007

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JEFFERSON CITY, Tenn. — A 4-month-old boy was found in a darkened room at a day care center with a pacifier taped into his mouth, the Tennessee Department of Human Services announced Wednesday.

The department responded Tuesday to an anonymous complaint that a caregiver at Noah's Ark Nursery and Preschool in Jefferson City was taping babies' mouths shut.

Upon arrival, an investigator heard muffled whining from the bathroom and found the boy's mouth covered with two pieces of two-inch-wide clear packing tape over a pacifier, department spokeswoman Michelle Mowery Johnson said.

The center was served with a suspension order from DHS and was closed Wednesday. A hearing was set for Thursday before an administrative judge.

Nursery owner Kim Trentham, who has run the daycare since 1993, did not answer repeated calls to the center or her home.

"It's absolutely unbelievable that this would happen," Johnson said. "They have no respect or concern for life. The child could have died."

According to the suspension order, caretaker Angela Day Gentry told police the taping incident had occurred before, and that placing the tape on the child was a "mutual" idea between herself and Kim Ball, the other caretaker in the room.

Gentry told police Ball actually placed the tape on the child, according to the report.

"The child literally could have ingested the tape, aspirated, or had breathing problems very quickly (among other possibilities) without an adult's knowing of any crisis," the report stated.

The facility received a three-star rating, the highest possible, by the DHS in its latest evaluation.

In March 2005, it was investigated by DHS after a child it was caring for died from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). The department found no wrongdoing or foul play, and no licensing action was taken.

The facility cares for 24 children between 6 weeks old and 5 years old. Jefferson City is 28 miles northeast of Knoxville.

The department said it does two announced visits per year at each day care site, and about six total. The center was able to receive a three-star ranking because foul play was never proven.

"The violations we found in the past didn't rise to a level where there would raise this much concern," Johnson said. "Those stars will be gone now, and the facility is under investigation."
 
That is awful Melissa!!! I hope they go back and investigated that SIDS case a little closer now.
 
You got that right...I am just so frustrated that we have all of this "government oversight" and yet these stories continue to surface over and over and usually small incidents lead to large incidents involving the death of children. Makes me want to SCREAM!
 
I don't understand why these agencies only to visits where the people know that they are coming on a certain day. Of course people are going to be on their best behavior and have everything clean and nice when they know someone is coming. Why don't they do random visits to make sure that things are going well on a daily basis. You should be ready at all times, not just when you know someone is coming. I just don't understand that. This is why I don't send my kids to daycare. I am not at all against mothers who work because I know some women have no choice but this is why I chose not to. I'd rather struggle financially with only one income and know that my kids are safe then to make a lot of money and have lots of stuff and not know how my kids are and what is really going on. This world is such a scary place and it's sad that we can't trust people more.
 
This is why I strongly urge new moms or those who are expecting to visit SEVERAL daycares and interview the director and observe several classes before chosing one. THis is what we did with my first son, when I worked and had to use daycare. I had a legal pad full of questions I asked. Questions can be found on several parenting Web sites, and I'd be glad to share with anyone my neurotic list. We also made sure to find a place that was state licensed (some states don't require this if the daycare is run out of a church). I also made sure that we chose a place that had at least two teachers in a room because I felt better knowing there would be two people keeping each other in check. I also made sure it was OK for me to pop in whenever I wanted. I worked flexible hours, so they never knew when I'd be there to pick up my little boy. We chose a GREAT place, but I still cried on the days I had to take him instead of my husband. Now I stay at home, but I often feel like when I worked I had more "quality" time with my son because I never took it for granted. I cherished EVERY moment because I knew it was limited. As a stay-at-home mom, I sometimes get bogged down with daily chores, etc., and I don't take the time to focus on one-on-one time like I should. (Little one is napping now -- that's why I'm writing this uber-long post).
 
Sometimes I wish we could clone a thousand more good mommies like I see on this forum, Steph.

The other half of the stories I read and what I observe daily shows that there a lot of women who do not deserve their children. I find it hard to cope with those kind of creatures, because some of us really do want to be mommies but it is just not in the cards...
 
That is too sad. I have worked in daycares in the past. I never took my baby daughter to it though. Even though my daughter would have been free I didnt trust or feel comfortable leaving her in the baby room. I did take my daughter who was 3 at the time, but only cause she was in my room. That is the main reason I decided to have a in home day care. To provide quality not quantity care at an affordable price. I mean daycares charge a bundle and then for then to be too over staffed to take good care of the children, that sinks!. Right now I care for 6 kids ages ranging fron 2-4 and one of them is my own. I love it its the perfect job for me.
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Stephanie, I would love to see your neurotic list of questions! And thank you for your insight on the "quality" time - it's so nice to hear the positive side of being a working mom, and it's great that you have both perspectives. :)

I'm not a mom yet, but hope to be someday, and being a SAHM isn't a matter of just "struggling" financially - it is completely impossible in our case. I make way too much money, and work in too technical of a field (where skills and knowledge quickly become obsolete if you leave the field for any significant length of time). Daycare is our only option, but it's stories like this that make me feel ill about the whole idea.
 
I don't know where Jefferson City, TN is but it was on the local news last night & when I saw the story I was horrified too. I was shocked & felt so bad for those children & the parents too. It put this awful knot in the pit of my stomach while I was watching it. I'm just glad that somebody reported it at least...
 
>Emily,
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>You are going to be the bestest mommie in the whole wide
>world! :)

*sniff* Melissa, you are too sweet! :) I sure hope I can be a good mom - I have a lot of doubts in my abilities, but I'll certainly do the best I can if/when the time comes.
 
I hear you, Kel. It made me literally nauseous today. I honestly believe that people are much more twisted now than when I was a child. DH tells me that the same stuff probably happened but it wasn't reported...

I just cannot help but be shocked and in total disbelief every time I hear it though.
 
Ev: I definitely see pros and cons of working and not working. I loved my job and SOOOOO enjoyed the special time I had with my oldest son when I'd pick him up from school. I still remember me tilting the rear-view mirror down to see him in his carseat as I quizzed him on all of the animal sounds and the alphabet. I really think he learned SO much at daycare too. He's my social butterfly now. I've really enjoyed staying home this time around, but we could afford for me to because I was a writer who made a very little salary which wouldn't cover two kids in daycare anyway. But I am going to get Henry into a program next year just so he'll have the very important social contact that only preschool can give.

As for the neurotic list of questions: Some questions I definitely would ask (these are from memory, couldn't find actual list):
Is the facility state licensed?
What is the curriculum? Is it a learning center or a daycare (go for the learning center)?
If it serves food (hot lunch and breakfast), what have been the past months' health dept. ratings?
Has the facility ever had a lawsuit brought against it?
What is the teacher/child ratio?
How many teachers/teacher aides per room?
Especially in infant rooms, I'd ask how often they disinfect the toys and mop (our daycare did it twice a day)
What is the policy on visitors? Do they have to sign in?
Can you visit whenever you like?
Where is the playground (our daycare had a courtyard completely enclosed by the building-- I didn't want strangers to be able to drive by and see the kids playing. Like I said, I'm really picky)
What is the director's background? Does he or she have a degree in early childhood education?
What is the school's sick policy? (I like places that make kids be fever-free and diarea/vomit-free for at least 24 hours before returning to school)
What is the school's policy on drug dispension? (Ours had to have written directions from parents).

These are just a few. But you get the idea.
 
Em - my DH and I were just having this conversation last night. We do not see how I could ever manage to stay home with kids. As much as I would like to! We really depend on my salary and without it, we would basically have to sell everything and move into a hole. Luckily, I do not have to worry about my skill set becoming obsolete (the method to wiping executive butts hasn't changed much over the years), but I've always been the main source of income in the house. I'm not sure I could ever entrust my kids to strangers though... Maybe we'll win the lottery and I will not have to worry about it. ;)
 
Stephanie - great list! THANKS! Some of those I wouldn't have even thought of (like the location of the playground). Very helpful!
 
That's so strange... my DH says the same thing about this & many other current issues. I don't know. I suppose it's possible because everything is right there at our fingertips & so much is being reported in/by many different types of media. Still, it's just awful to hear about things like this & know that there are such horrible people out there...
 

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