Adult Children of Alchoholics...

I am also the child of an alcoholic and read all of these posts in tears. You have all been so brave sharing your story and insight. I just want to say that it's helped me a great deal. I've been contemplating therapy for years and have never had the guts. I have so much buried inside.

I have so much to be thankful for in my life...a wonderful husband, two beautiful children, a great career and no debt to speak of...and yet I can't find peace. I am anxious, lonely and often times overwhelmingly sad. You would never know these things about me because I have overcompensated to the point that I feel like a fake. In fact, people that know me would be shocked to find out that I experience any of these feelings because I always appear perky and happy.

Perfectionism, obsessive compulsive behavior and feelings of inadequacy have ruled all the decisions in my life. Though I rarely drink, when I do...I can't seem to stop. I binge drink and have had more than my share of total blackouts. In fact, I was falling down, slurring drunk at my son's second birthday party. God it hurts to read those words, but at the same time it feels like a relief to finally admit it.

My family, specifically my mother and sister, have never, ever, ever discussed the fact that my father is an alcoholic. Growing up, I watched him come home every evening drunk. Sometimes he came home in the middle of the day to pass out when he was supposed to be at work. He would be combative, confrontational and downright mean. He and my mother argued a lot, but more often than that...nothing was said at all and we existed in total silence. We rarely said anything for fear that it would set him off and I spent a lot of time in my room alone.

These days I don't have to deal with my dad much as he never visits (I live 4 miles away), calls or spends time with his grandkids. When we do visit, he ends up getting drunk and insulting us. On a recent visit, I witnessed him literally guzzling vodka directly from the bottle when he thought no one was watching.

My husband's father recently passed away unexpectedly and I asked my mother to watch my two boys so we could attend services. When I dropped them off, my father was drunk and called my son a "burden" and a "wimp" for crying out for me as I was leaving.

Only now that I am a mother do I realize that my parents NEVER played with us as children, read to us or came to our school activities. We were basically ignored. Every family memory I possess is tainted by my father's drunkenness.

I don't know what I hoped to accomplish here, but just reading these posts and sharing my story has made me realize that I need to talk to someone. I want so much to be happy.
 
Ok, Letswork, now your story almost made me cry. My growing up was very similar.

As my father got older, he turned into a dry alchoholic. He started sucking down more cigarette smoke and his lung ailments turned into COPD or emphyzema. He got cancer at 69 and survived it. THen he made everyone else miserable because he turned into a hypochondriac. Cigarettes were not causing his problems according to him....it was always something else. He was spending thousands of dollars on treatments he would read in magazines and if my mother wanted a few extra bucks, he would verbally abuse her. He had my mother so worn down.....I can't even begin to describe it! He would smoke and smoke, get sick and then demand someone from the family take him to the emergency room because he thought he was dying. He called my daughter once at 2:00 a.m. and demanded she take him to the hospital...my mother doesn't drive. Then, he verbally abused her because she was so nervous she wasn't driving her best. I told my mother at that point to start calling an ambulance. She said my father didn't like the cost of the ambulance. Do you believe it!

Well, this last incident happened in December of last year. He was two weeks in the hospital on a respirator and finally died. I didn't feel a thing for him at that point but pity. I know that sounds cold but I feel a person has choices in life...his choice was to continue to destroy himself and everyone around him.

And you know what....my Mom is doing just great. I see her confidence in herself building again. I'm glad she will live her last few years in peace.

Thanks for letting me rant!
 
Letswork - I guess I didn't send you a PM.

Your post tore my heart. And it caused me great concern. What you've described of your personal situation is very disturbing, and all to familiar to me.

You're welcome to e-mail me off the board at [email protected]. I'd like to cyber-discuss some things with you.

A-Jock
 
>I had a brother who also died from alcohol and
>substance abuse at 43.
>Catherine

Catherine,

I'm sorry about your brother and your father.

My younger brother also died from alcohol and substance abuse, just this past September. He was 34.

Danielle
 
Candi - that's quite a story - wow! I can relate though, my father was similar. Although my mom left him a while ago and she is doing much better. My father is still alive, but shouldn't be. His doctor told me 10 years ago he wouldn't live another 4 years - and yet he's still around. Probably still drinking and smoking, even though he's had 5 by-passes, a pace maker, heart attacks etc. He has choices in life, you are right! And Letswork should choose to get help! I hope she does. She will survive - she will! Its a commom problem (unfortunatley) and one that can be overcome!
 
I know...it's quite a story...and not even the half of it. A parents' behavior has so much impact on the mental health of their children. That probably sounds like a "DUH!" statement...but if it is, why do children continue to suffer the consequences?!

Lynne, sorry to hear your family suffered the effects of an alchoholic also. I'm glad your mother is doing better. And your father, my goodness! It's amazing what the human body can endure.

It's interesting so many of us have similar experiences. Maybe that's part of what draws us to exercise.
 
Candi..I agree too that is a sad story, my heart goes out to you!! I do agree with you about the antidepressants, I was originally perscribed them for sleeping disorder and when I went off of them (lost insurance temporarily) it was very hard and I think it brought out more agression and depression that I did not know I had till later. So now I feel I need them!! Its amazing how many of us can relate to this post (which is sad). This post makes me wanna hug my children a little harder. Why do people have children if their gonna screw up their heads. I still find my parents "emotional draining" thats why caller ID was invented, huh? I definatly keep them at an arms distance and if they start upseting me I magical dont answer the phone or become "too busy". They did enough damage, now I am in control of life. happy minds and hearts to all!!

:7
 
Oh wow...I have so much to say to all of you that responded.
Unfortunately, right now I have many words and no time. Please forgive me, but I will not be able to respond to any of you until Wed night. I have classes and work and am very busy for the next few days.

Some of you I will be personally PM-ing, if y'all don't mind!:) It is so great to know that I am not the only one out there with these problems! Thank you all!!
 
Groundhog,

Yes, your parents have done enough damage. You also must be very strong to finally decide to take control. Not everyone in abusive situations can do that.
 
Janice,

I think it was Candi who recommended co dependent no more - I too, highly recommend that book. It changed my life - I'll never forget it. It made me realize a lot about why I was doing certain things in life and making wrong choices. You too can change your life. Many people here have and I think Candi is right - we choose exercise for a reason - a healthy reason. We don't want to be like our parents! I wish you the best and I know you can pull through this difficult time.
 
Wow, Janice, I am so glad you posted this. I find that the way you describe yourself is much like me, though strangely, I am not a child of an alcoholic. I do, however, have a father who pretty much ignored me during my childhood. He is a solitary, paranoid, moody man, who is easy to provoke into anger, must be coaxed into conversation, and when you can get him to talk he is very interruptive and like a know-it-all. (To some extent, I would say that my mother didn't spend a lot of quality time with me either, though, she doesn't exhibit the other traits of my father).

Is this anything like being the child of an alcoholic? I am trying to make connections in my head between my situation and yours. Not sure if this is a correct conclusion.

I have struggled since my youth with self-esteem issues and doubt in my self-worth. I would definitely have to say that I share your feelings of loneliness, feeling abnormal around others, not being able to relate, not liking to talk about superficial things, not liking people who complain all the time, being considered serious or "intense", and finally, sometimes wanting to pack my bags, move, and start fresh.

Thankfully, like yourself, I have married a man who is so far removed from my father, it is an amazing blessing. He is funny and lighthearted and spontaneous. He frequently helps me to "forget" my shortcomings and my loneliness. But, I would have to say that since I married him, he has become my "crutch" as far as making friends. It is easy now that I have him to not have to force myself to try to relate to others since he has a wonderful ability to make friends for the both of us.

As others have mentioned, I have always thought of counseling as being for the "weak." I think I would be too scared to go. But, this thread had made me think differently. I'm probably not at the stage in my life where I would seriously consider it, but it is helpful to hear that others have found success with it. Plus, I feel awkward that maybe I am jumping to conclusions that I am this way because of my parents. Is there some degree of personal responsibility that I need to take, seeing that I was not the ideal child either? I just don't know.

Anyway, this has made me feel better being able to talk to you so openly about this. I wonder if anyone else in the forum has the same characteristics without being the child of an alcoholic...
 
Emy-
Without knowing much about it, I'll stick my two cents in here and say that I think it makes a lot of sense that you can relate, and I'm sure a lot of the emotions are very similar to what the children of alcoholics go through. It sounds like there are plenty of parallels in your situation.

I'm really impressed at how many of those who have posted, including you, managed to marry people who were nothing like their parents. My therapist has told me that this is a very hard thing to do, and it indicates that you have done a lot of work on yourself, even if you've never seen a therapist. You should be pretty proud of yourselves!

By the way, I wouldn't wait until things become bad to see a therapist. The better you are doing, I think the more you can get from it. However, good therapists tend to be expensive and insurance is pretty bad at covering therapy, so it's understandable that a lot of people can't afford it financially. But if you can afford it financially, there is really no reason to wait.
 
emy,

I would like to respond to your post, if you don't mind. Your questions is a very, very good one and there is an answer. First, I would like to say while I don't consider myself an authority on relationship issues, I do have my Master's in Psychology and Counseling (feel like I need to qualify myself). Also, if you've read my posts, you know I have struggled with ACOA issues.

A common trait of alchoholics is their inability to be emotionally there for the loved ones in their life. A recovering alchoholic told to me once, "An addicted man's mistress is whatever he is addicted to...everything else is secondary." Now, having made that statement, I think you will understand how that makes family members feel...especially children. What you describe are ACOA tendencies but people with abandonment issues also suffer the same emotional turmoil, and children of alchoholics are abandoned. Not only by the parent who is the addicted but also by the other parent, if that parent is not addicted, because they are also dealing with the alchoholic.

I believe you know that a parent is crucial to a child's development, especially emotionally. When a child is brought into the world and for the first few months of their life, that is all they know. Our parents are our teachers and we also learn what we live. Children are like a sponge, soaking up everything around them. They also need love from both parents. I believe in the old Freudian oedipal thing. A male child learns how to relate to women through his mother, just as a female learns to relate to men through the father.

Based on what you said in your post, it appears neither your mother or father were able to meet your emotional needs, whereby you probably felt emotionally abandoned. This leaves a big gaping hole in the psyche that affects your emotional development.

I want to address another thing you said here about taking personal responsibility. As I said previously, as a child you were dependent on your parents. As humans do, you developed coping mechanisms to deal with your needs not being met. Coping mechanisms are established in both behaviors and thoughts. The longer you live in a mentally unhealthy environment, the more pervase and engrained they become. When we take these coping mechanisms into adulthood with us, we are taking old habits and ways of thinking and feeling with us too...because they are engrained in our psyche. But, as adults, they do not work anymore. That's why Cognitive-Behavioral therapy works so well. If your cognitive (thinking) skills are pretty good, which in your case they'd have to be for you to do as well as you're doing, you can learn healthier ways of dealing with the world by learning new behavioral skills.

No, you don't have to choose to blame your parents. I choose to because it reminds me of why I have certain feelings and it keeps me from going back to old behavior patterns. Do I hate my mother or father...No. I understand where they're coming from now but I will never love them in a way a child should love their parents. I have found this type of unconditional love with my current DH and my daughter.

As an adult, it is up to you to take personal responsibility for emotions. That's part of why getting help is so important, even if it's through self help.

And finally, I'd like to respond to your comment about counseling being for the weak. Anyone that has been through therapy knows the amount of emotional energy that it takes. It is work, it is draining, and it is painful. Weak people do not have the stomach for it. But the results make it all worthwhile.
 
Candi - you continue to impress me with your knowledge! That was a very insightful post. I agree that therapy is difficult and is not for the weak! My earlier post about seeing results within 6 months was really meant as a warning - I spent almost 1.5 years with a therapist and didn't really get anywhere. Later, I realized it was because I was unable to open up because the therapist was a man. I needed a woman to speak to, someone to whom I could really open up and not risk male judgement (that was a big issue for me.) ONce I found a great female therapist, within 6 months of hard work, I felt better and was making progress. I could feel it! So, I guess I just want others to learn from my experience about finding a good therapist. If you don't feel like you're making progress, you need to re-evaluate to whom you are talking and whether that person is working for you.

Candi - reading that last post of yours reminded me a lot of what I went through and reminded me of all of the work I had done with the therapist. It is probably time for me, once again, to re-read some books and my own notes about my progress -keeps me on the right path!
 
Lynne,

I have to laugh because I wish I didn't know all that stuff. I had the need to know, otherwise, I WISH I didn't:). I'm a bit older that some of you (49), so when I initially started experiencing my panic attacks at 19...let's see that's 30 years ago (UGH!), around 1974, I had to seek out information like crazy because it was all hiding under rocks. You know, "We just don't talk about that stuff" kind of mentality.

And Lynne, I also understand your plight of trying to find the right therapist. It took me several years of on and off therapy with at least four therapists before I found someone that I connected with. The first one wanted to put me on valium...lived in a fog for about a week before I realized it wasn't for me, the second one wanted to train me in biofeedback muscle relaxation, which would have probably been great but the environment I was living in didn't help and the third one was a man....just could not relate to him even though he was a nice guy. For me, number 4 was a charm...and I found her through insurance believe it or not.

I just kept pushing until I found the help that worked for me...just like you did. Then I decided I wanted to try to help women who were experiencing the same kind of pain, that's why I got my master's degree in Psychology and Counseling. Problem is....counselors pay is awful until you get licensed and as I am already in a well paying career that will take me to retirement, I decided to wait until after retirement to pursue the counseling.

I just hope all my ranting helped. It sure helped me to share my experiences with all of you.
 
I am in awe of the posters here. So many incredibly strong women who have dealt with everything life handed them and overcame it and made the most of their lives. My DH sees me that way, but it's easier to see it in others. Although my parents aren't alcoholics, I've been through some extraordinarily tough times. The world is filled with far too many dysfunctional families.

Candi, thank you so much for your educated and fascinating insights. As you mentioned, it is no coincidence that such strong women are so interested in exercise. We know that exercise and eating well and taking care of ourselves is empowering and we want to be in control of our lives. And we are!
 
Checking back and like Nancy, am impressed with the strength of this whole group. Thank you Candi for bringing the expertise into this. I would love to stay here and emotionally "hash it out" with you all, but I unfortunately cannot. I think everyone here was so brave to post and am very appreciative to those of you who came out and shared your story with me.


I think we may all have much more in common that just exercise!:)

I will update you on my psychologist visit after Fri. I picked a woman because I knew I would be more comfortable..we'll see....
 
I am overwhelmed by the strength, courage and intelligence of the posters in this thread! I can't tell you how much I admire the way you all are dealing with or have dealt with the difficulties life has handed you. If you feel comfortable doing so, please keep us posted on your progress.
 

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