Weight Watchers ...**Thursday**

teddy16410

Cathlete
Happy Thursday! Just 7 more days in February.... How close is everyone to hitting this months goal(s)? Mine was to drop 1-2% more BF... not sure if thats happening - even with this ultra clean eating I seem a bit stuck at 19% but I expect as new meds start to kick in next month I'll see some improvement. My weight work had been less intense since completing X and that was a big part of BF loss past few months. Scale is holding steady at 1# less so maybe my body is catching up with the new #? WHO KNOWS!!!!!:p :+

Today is UPPER Day... I am going to plug in Push Pull Upper Mix but will change it out (to a Tony) if pace is too fast to lift heavy.

I have an AMY novel below so will post all personals in next post!

AMY: On doing BC (or any other Cathe) slower.... I actually think thats a very smart thing to do. The pace is so very fast on many of her workouts that I have found even circuits turn out to be "just cardio" if you aren't careful. I must lack fast twitch muscles because I get virtually zero strength benefit if I dont go slower and more mythodical. You are very smart to have figured that out for yourself. I wish I had a button to change "play speed" like the old phonographs I had back in the day I taught. We actually were trained on BPM and set the player speed to what we were trying to accomplish. Its so subtle that it makes no difference in the music quality but it allows you to get more diverse benefit from a song.
WAAAAA-HOOOOOO on the big girl push ups & Tricep Wt increases!!!!! Thats so exciting! On the rotation posted.... I totally agree with Cheryl that it is way to leg heavy. IMO: Many people miss the real benefit of LowMax, All Bast segments, Intervals. They are designed to be a lower body Cardio (think Plyometrics). Of course you can modify them and not go real deep/down but that defeats the purpose. Based on your goal (I think) of lessening cardio and increasing strength work (I think you're buring up all your muscle before its benefits can kick in) ...Having said that- IF you are using them as intended then you would not want to do Legs & Intervvals/ Blasts back to back. Thats a knee issue just waiting to happen PLUS your leg muscles MUST have some recovery time from that stuff. Also- a red flag to me was starting off week one with SH. Unless you have beem doing PS or GS regularly I think its too much muscle overload to soon. You do more Full Body or Circuit or All Upper type stuff so I dont advise starting a rotation with SH. Your muscles will respond greatly even using all PS/GS for a month or 2 but if you want the SH inserted I'd wait two weeks then do it.
Personally I'd go with FF's January Rotation:
Her intro (copied below is CRITICAL to the success of program!!!) I *** the things that P90X proved to me! I dont believe (based on your goals) that you should add in more cardio. Defeats the purpose. Remember that "Leg day" gives SSC benefit for most of us. Also new for you will be the rest/yoga day. Muscle magic occurs in recovery. If you dont want to take a Yoga/rest day then do a short SSC. If you decide you must have more do your weight work at your PEAK energy point so you can lift very very heavy. Do a 30-45 minute non step cardio (The Monster perhaps) later in the day (like a split) and if you find you just dont have energy STOP! It means your body is using all its energy to build & repair new muscle growth. make sure you increase your protein intake as well.;-) Hope all that helps!!!!
Final Thought; keep in mind that a real key to success for you will be to stop listening to your head (more cardio more cardio more cardio) & start listening to your body! It takes time but once it clicks you wont have to keep adding more time to your workouts for little-no results. Train your body to work for you on less cardio by lifting heavy weights (heavy for YOU!)

~~~~~~From Fitness Freak:~~~~~~

This workout will build muscle and keep you lean. ***Use as heavy a weight as you can mustare to do each set to almost failure. This is the only way to build good muscle. In my endeavor to building muscle this winter, I have learned that ***less is best. ***Get in, get out and **work hard. ***Give it your all with each workout and you will see some good results. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Week 1
Day 1: Gym Style Chest & Tri’s, Abs from B&G (ankle weight workout)
Day 2: Body Max 2 (any cardio only premix)
Day 3: Gym Style Legs
Day 4: Rest, yoga or strech
Day5: Gym Style Back, Shoulder & Biceps; abs from LIC
Day 6: Low Impact Circuit cardio only premix
Day 7: Butts & Gutts

Week 2
Day 1: Rest, yoga or stretch
Day 2: Pyramid Upper Body & abs
Day 3: Imax2
Day 4: Pyramid Lower
Day 5: Rest, yoga or stretch
Day 6: Drill Max (and cardio only premix); Stability ball abs from B&G
Day 7: Slow & Heavy Chest & Back

Week 3
Day 1: Step Blast
Day 2: Rest, yoga or stretch
Day 3: Slow & Heavy Tri’s & bi’s & abs
Day 4: Body Max 1 (step portion & blasts from leg section, skip weights)
Day 5: Slow & Heavy Legs & Shoulders; abs from Body Max 2
Day 6: Rest, yoga or stretch
Day 7: Kick, Punch & Crunch

Week 4
Day 1: Gym Style Chest & Tri’s
Day 2: Low Max
Day 3: Rest, yoga or stretch
Day 4: Gym Style Back, Shoulder & Biceps; abs from LIC
Day 5: Gym Style Legs
Day 6: Cardio Kicks
Day 7: Rest, yoga or stretch

GENERIC BREAKDOWN:

Week 1
Day 1: Chest & tri’s workout; abs
Day 2: 60 min. of Cardio
Day 3: Leg workout
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: Back, shoulder & bicep workout; abs
Day 6: 45-60 min. cardio
Day 7: Leg workout

Week 2
Day 1: Rest
Day 2: All upper body workout; abs
Day 3: 60 min. cardio
Day 4: Lower body workout
Day 5: Rest
Day 6: 60 min. cardio workout; abs
Day 7: Chest & Back workout

Week 3
Day 1: 60 min. cardio
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Tri’s & Bi’s workout; abs
Day 4: 45-60 min. cardio
Day 5: Leg & Shoulder workout; abs
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: 60 min. cardio

Week 4
Day 1: Chest & Tri’s workout
Day 2: 60-70 min. cardio
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Back, Shoulders & Bicep workout; abs
Day 5: Leg workout
Day 6: 60 min. cardio
Day 7: Rest


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~~~~~~More Personals~~~~~~~

Gidget: Any GREAT DAY is a reason to celebrate! Glad you had some adult conversation out of the house! You are working so hard & consistently right now that those last few baby pounds will be bye bye for good soon!

CHERYL: Glad Imax 1 was just what you needed! Love those "no thinking required" workouts! I'm POSITIVE that 2 1/2 #s is just ttom! You cant possibly be gaining fat based on your eating.

LoriS: Sorry about the 5...I know thats hard to see. If you think it real weight then perhaps Cheryl asked the magic question. Late night poor eeating/drinking is far less forgiving on BF than early day choices. You just have no time to burn any of it off before bed. I wonder if thats it?

TeddyGirl: Hope todays the magic day for you! 100% Healthy!!! So what crazy workout did you do today?

BELINDA: Good job on L&G and VERY happy that time flew! Thats an added bonus. Hope the day with DD was FABULOUS!

JANE: Hope all is well and that eating is staying CLEAN!

Graet day to all!
 
Traci- WOW, you weren't kidding about the novel!!! That's why I love you and the rest of the crew here....you don't pussy-foot around and you are honest with your opinions PLUS give GREAT advice and instructions! Thanks for your take on the other rotation. I hadn't thought about the impact of S&H and throwing it in early. Nor had I thought about the whole leg thing. I definitely hear you about the not listening to my head! Last night I got on Monster and was very proud to say that I went 45 min...and that's it!!! I'm really trying to make an effort to reduce my cardio. I started thinking about FF's rotation and had printed it out yesterday as well. Yes, I like the circuits, but like you said, I slow them down and make them more interval-y so that I can give each section my all, which take longer, but at least I can try to get what benefits I can out of them. I had forgotten about the cardio/circuit fiasco I went through last fall until you had mentioned it just now! You had mentioned earlier that you stick to about 1500-1800 clean calories when you are muscle building?

Well, today I am going to my WW meeting (tonight actually). I really don't want to, but I am trying to get a co-worker started on WW and agreed to corral her 3 kids at the next door bookstore so she can sit and pay attention to the beginner information. Like LoriS, I have been really struggling with my eating the last couple of weeks. I do fine during the weekend when I'm working, but totally lose it during the week!!! I know this is a phase, though, I go through about 1-2 times a year and it will pass, but it's frustrating while I go through it!

Like I mentioned earlier, with all the hub-bub of the day, between getting DH to his appt, then having to wait to pick up the second rental car, I didn't get a chance to workout until late...around 7p. I like having the option of pulling the Monster out and taking it for a spin instead of having to pull out all the step stuff, or run in the rain (like yesterday). I only went 45 min strong with 5 min cooldown. All in all, under an hour, which, like Traci warned, felt like I was cheating, but I actually had energy left over and didn't feel like I was completely drained!

Everyone else, I hope that you have a good day. I don't know what this afternoon's workout will be, but it will be a goodie!!!

Hey, Traci- I can almost rival you on the novel!!!;-) ;-) :p How did Lukie's appt go?
 
Hey Amy-
We are quite the chatter boxes today ah? :+

thanks for asking about Lukie- He did great at vet but I had forgotten the last time he was there he was a very sick little boy and he had to stay overnight and have all those horrible procedures run on him.... He was all excited to be with mom and RAN up to vet door then STOPPED dead in his tracks when it clicked where we were... I had to pull 108#s thru the vet door while he was shaiking like a leaf. Made me cry.... Once he was in the exam rom he settled right down tho as he must have known that exam room means no nasty tests.

On the calories I mentioned yesterday....
When I am lifting for muscle growth (to my body thats Burn baby Burn mode).... I eat more calories per day but all of them come from protein sources. I usually just add ounces of whatever my regular meal is to keep it simple but also the EWI comes in really handy for late night protein. Its really good to get just a little extra protein before bed to help muscles recover. My days are zig zagged between 1500 & 1800. Remember I lost 6#s & 6.5% BodyFat doing this for the 90 days (95days) of P90X.
Now that I want to lean down I'm doing lighter weights but still not alot of cardio and have cut my calories back to 1200-1500 range. Still high protein & veggies as mainstay. Although I'm losing some muscle gain I am seeing a bit leaner look so my muscles still are popping. I only plan to be off of P90X for another 6 weeks or so then I'm going back to building mode.
HTH!

ETA: ^^^^^^^5 on 45 min monster & for being a good WW Friend!
 
Yes, I guess you can tell who are the early birds this morning!!

I am glad that Lukie did great yesterday. I know that it's a struggle to get my cats to the vet and they've never had any nasty tests....they're just home-bodies!!! All 3 HATE going out for any reason!! They are so terrified during the whole "ordeal" that they each lose enough fur to make 3 more cats!!! I guess that you extended your Leg Blast day yesterday by 108#!!!

Oh, that reminded me, I need to go grocery shopping for the weekend. I need to pick up veggies, especially!x(
 
Goooood Moooooorning, early birds!

Traci, love your input for Amy on the rotations, and I think you're right on the money. That FitnessFreak rotation you posted looks like a good one.

You and me both on the 19% bf point "sticking" I'm afraid February will go by without much progress at all - aagh -- we'll see.
My eating's been pretty clean, but you didn't see me downing trail mix on the road, or the ice cream/brownie bites I had at my Mom's x( x( x(

I was actually thinking last night that 1/2 lb worth of extra calories seems to bring on 2 lbs of instant weight - I suspect it's 1/2 pounds of real weight plus 1 1/2 lb of water retention to deal with the processed foods (the fake fat on the popcorn, etc) that our bodies are forced to deal with.... just a theory. At any rate, I was back on 100% clean eating Tuesday and yesterday, that's for sure! :)

Amy, will be interested to hear what your workout is for today.
Good luck at that WW meeting! So good of you to be there for your friend.

My plan this morning is 45 min TM run followed by S&H Tri's and Bi's (includes abs). Haven't done S&H for a long time - in fact only once ever, so this should be good.

Have a great morning, everyone!
Cheryl
 
Happy Thursday,

Tracie, I had to print your book :D

This morning, I did KPC & abs :9 I love this workout 'MORE' than Kick Max. it was awesome!

Teddygirl~
 
Good Morning...Traci, I really don't have alot of late night eating. I usually eat 5 small meals a day, and most are very clean, except for the Vitalicious muffin top, with the Blue Bunny ice cream on top. And that is FF, no sugar-added. That is about my only processed, or bad food choice all day. I can't be perfect. You guys eat so well!! I need a little 'bad.' Core is focused very much on 'clean food.' I am going to give it a whirl, and see where it takes me. You guys and your great bf% will always be in the back of my mind.

Amy, I hope your WI went better than mine yesterday.

TeddyGirl, I am either going to do KPC, or CTX cardio, and a 1/2 hour walk on my treadmill today. I love all of Cathe's Kickbox workouts, but I do not like KickMax.

Cheryl, Gidget, Lori, Jane, Claude, I hope you all are having a great day!!
Lori
 
Oh I am just starting to think about getting upper done ... Got sidetracked by a few things but all were "important" so thats OK!

LoriS: Core may be just what you need to help with "cleaner" eating. That was a real key for me in shifting my mindset. We just dont realize how processed foods affect our moods, hormones, water gain, fat gain. It really is amazing to be able to consume alot of food that is clean and balanced at each meal and watch the body thank us by going to a healthy weight & BF without too much thought. I hope you find what you are looking for with Core.

TeddyGirl: So happy you got to print!}( No real new words of wisdom tho & I'm sure there werent too many AHA's for you! Feeling better today???

Cheryl: I agree 100% from personal experience on how scale weight is ditributed into real fat & body struggling to process .... Dont you find the cleaner you become the less tolerance for processed foods you are? I sure have! SH Biceps KILL me! I just dont like working biceps although I love the look of them! Cant just WISH them into being I guess! Enjoy!!

AMY: I guess cats just dont get nearly as excited to go out and about in the car with mom as dogs do!:+ Mine are like crazy fools when I say "Go".....Dont forget those veggies today!!!

Great Day to al that follow!
 
Good morning early birds!

Cheryl same here I don't see much progress with Feb. rotation at all x( Maybe I need to do more cardio?? Or weights? Should I add more abs?

Today is KPC for me!

Hope you all have a great day!

Belinda
 
Hi, everyone -

Belinda - my theory is that it isn't necessarily an issue of more cardio or more weights, but more that as we get closer to goal we need to "mix it up" with whatever we're doing to shock our body. Maybe zigzagging calories, maybe opting for more all out cardio intervals 1-2x a week (as opposed to just "more cardio") alternated with days where the cardio is a slow and steady calorie burn at the lower end of the aerobic heart range... that's my thoughts. Hard to do, though - takes even more focus!!!

Lori - I agree, we all need a little bad. I'm eating generally 4 little squares of Dove dark chocolate a day. 2 are all you need for nutritional benefit - I'm generally eating 2 as a pre-workout snack (just right) and 2 for my afternoon snack (also just right - surprisingly filling at 84 calories for 2). I'm also having a couple of diet root beers here and there. So hard to give up. May have to, at least temporarily, on the root beer especially...

Did the Bi's and tri's - ouch! Plus 45 min TM. Not my best energy workout, but got it done.

On to another wonderful day. It's THURSDAY!!

Teddygirl, good to hear you up and around and part of the land of the living again! :7 :7

Cheryl
 
Hey Girls,

Quite chatty here today:eek: Im juat getting ready to head to the Dr's office for our 6 weeks check up, one week late:)
I didn't get time for my workout just yet. I am going to head to Walmart later to see if I can find another hand held tetris game and my new sneakers are being air mailed here so I am wondering if they will arrive today:) Two good reasons to hold off on my run and I will do it later this afternoon, (hopefully) if not, it will be my day off. My mother is here for the day and my in laws are comming for dinner so I am hoping to find the time.

The scale seems to be holding steady this week although I have 3 more days before weigh in. I haven't been eating bad but maybe to many sweets? I haven't been going over my point allowance either. I am trying to stay positive b/c I know I have lost 6 lbs in little over 2 weeks and maybe next week there will be a big dip in the scales? Im not hungrier through out the day but at night time I have this feeling to pick at things in the cupboard and thats where the self sabtoage comes into play.
Any words of wisdom?

I will check in again later. Hopefully reporting that I did a nice long run!
Lori:)
 
The two pounds are down! At least I'm back to the 126's this morning... aaagh... ate 1400 clean calories yesterday and did a one hour hard cardio workout (no weights). But still not back to the 125.2 I thought I was settled in at. Such frustration. An entire 1-2 week's progress erased by a weekend of parties :)

LoriGidget, I have a hunch that post pregnancy weight is a different than typical issue due to a lot of factors and I will be surprised if your doctor isn't pleased and proud of your progress so far. I found baby weight resisting harder than usual and it took me a little longer each time (3 pregnancies) no matter what I did.

Have a great morning, everyone!
Cheryl
 
Hey Gang,

I didn’t have time this morning to chat, our office was a mess, We nailed it x( by putting out a revised report. Now office is claim again, thank goodness.

Tracie: Don’t get it twisted baby girl :D there was a lot of AHA, yep’s and she’s right in your book :D I’m already re-thinking my March approach.
 
I need new toys I’m going to buy these three. Not sure which of Billy’s or Tracey’s that I’m going to get, need to watch previews.

1. Cathe’s Terminator
2. Billy Blanks
3 Tracey Staehle
 
Thanks Cheryl for your input. I have a feeling that this weight isn't going to fall off (like any does!). And you were right, I went to my Doc today and when I told him I had 12 lbs to go he was impressed. He didn't say much, b/c he never does but he did raise his eyebrows. I also ran into a friend at the store and she said I was doing really well if thats all I had left to lose after 7 weeks. I know I am doing good but I just want to see the scale moving!

So...the end of the day is getting near and I haven't done a workout yet. Kinda thinking that Thursdays is going to be my day off. I was also invited to a playgroup today which is also on Thursdays AND Thursday afternoon is also the time I take him to BURPS, where there are a bunch of other moms and I get him weighed.

Oh, he was 11 lbs 7.5 oz today. He is really putting on the weight.
Alright, Ill check back later,
Lori:)
 
Good afternoon,

Today I did KPC:)

Are any of you thinking about going on the Cathe Road Trip???

Cheryl thanks for the imput:)

Teddygirl I like Billy Blanks:)

Have a great afternoon!
Belinda
 
Cheryl- check your PMs!;-)

Well, I am going to start FF's January rotation tomorrow. I have all the workouts in the DVD player all qued up and ready to go. I did have one last cardio "hurrah" by doing just the step routines of Imax 3 and 2 with just a couple of the 2 blast tossed in for good measure.

I clocked in at just a whiff over an hour, which is nothing like my usual 90 min! So hopefully, I am getting better there! Tomorrow....GS C&T!

I am off to my meeting. I know that I will be up from the last time due to some new medication my doctor put me on. We'll see once my body settles into it, though.
 

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