Tanita Ironman scale: what the...?

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Does anyone else have this scale? I have been puzzled for a long time with it. It will tell me that I have lost 6lbs of muscle overnight, and my bone weight fluctuates by day to day, and my fat percentage can change by 3% overnight. I think the weight part is accurate, but it seems that if I have a lot of water in me (bloat!), then it counts that water as muscle. Anyone have any idea what's going on? I paid a lot for this scale and it's very annoying to have these wildly fluctuating readings - there isn't even a trend I can track. Two days ago I had 108lbs of muscle, today I had 101 lbs of muscle.
 
Does anyone else have this scale? I have been puzzled for a long time with it. It will tell me that I have lost 6lbs of muscle overnight, and my bone weight fluctuates by day to day, and my fat percentage can change by 3% overnight. I think the weight part is accurate, but it seems that if I have a lot of water in me (bloat!), then it counts that water as muscle. Anyone have any idea what's going on? I paid a lot for this scale and it's very annoying to have these wildly fluctuating readings - there isn't even a trend I can track. Two days ago I had 108lbs of muscle, today I had 101 lbs of muscle.


BF% & thus the muscle# (not sure about the bone #!) is greatly affected by hydration. If you were to do an AM, Mid Day, PM reading all in the same day you'd getvery different #s & %s for BF, LBM, WT

I have a Tanita that does the same thing so its just an assumption that yours is like that...also It sounds like you have had yours for awhile...Make sure the battery doesnt need replacing...When mine starts getting weird readings I usually find its because my battery is 5 years old. If I replace that-the readings go back to "normal" for the scale.

HTH some!
 
So if body fat and muscle numbers are greatly affected by hydration, doesn't that mean that the scale is inaccurate? Because water ain't muscle or fat, right?
 
So if body fat and muscle numbers are greatly affected by hydration, doesn't that mean that the scale is inaccurate? Because water ain't muscle or fat, right?

I dont know the reason why...My Tanita book actually said that, I personally tested it & found to be true...also there have been a few threads in last couple of years about this and it was all discussed...you could do a search for a possible "scientific" answer - put in TANITA SCALE as your search phrase....
UNSCIENTIFIC & OLD MEMORY.....It has to do with muscle density vs fat...The sacale doesnt have a real way of telling what is bone, water, fat....its an educated guess based on density... I THINK thats the premis....
 
I dont know the reason why...My Tanita book actually said that, I personally tested it & found to be true...also there have been a few threads in last couple of years about this and it was all discussed...you could do a search for a possible "scientific" answer - put in TANITA SCALE as your search phrase....
UNSCIENTIFIC & OLD MEMORY.....It has to do with muscle density vs fat...The sacale doesnt have a real way of telling what is bone, water, fat....its an educated guess based on density... I THINK thats the premis....

I have this scale and according to my instructions, the electrical current runs faster through the body if you have more muscle than fat. Also, it seems that the electrical current conducts itself differently depending on the distribution of muscle, fat, water, bone density, etc. Also, are you sure that you're programing it according to your stats (i.e., age, activity level, height, etc.). That would definitely make it read differently.
 
Hi,

I understand how the scale works and it is programmed correctly. I guess I am wondering if I wasted my money if my readings will change so significantly for fat and muscle depending on how much sodium I had the day before! I really don't feel like I can rely on the scale for accurate readings for anything but weight.

Thank you for your thoughts!
 
Hi,

I understand how the scale works and it is programmed correctly. I guess I am wondering if I wasted my money if my readings will change so significantly for fat and muscle depending on how much sodium I had the day before! I really don't feel like I can rely on the scale for accurate readings for anything but weight.

Thank you for your thoughts!

I would be skeptical as well. However, before writing it off, try logging your food/water/sodium intake for a few days. My stats are consistent over time so I trust mine. How about the batteries? Are they new?
 
Mine are consistent too. Weight twice a week at the same time, preferrably in the morning after you use the bathroom.
 
I have a Tanita Ironman scale and find the body fat percentage to be different by about 2-3% in the morning versus the evening (higher). It's more consistent if you weigh about the same time in the evening and at least 2-3 hours after your last meal. I also find if I drink water within an hour of weighing the body fat number is higher. So eat your snack early in the afternoon and don't drink water for at least an hour before stepping on the scale and see if it's more consistent. ;)

Weird quirks I know, but I generally just use it as a guide. If the body fat percentage is going up....it's time to bring the food consumption down, lol.

Kathy
 
I have one

I have one and find that, while it does fluctuate, it helps to weigh the same time (I think the book recommends right before your largest meal) each day.

Mine fluctuates before my period (now -- I won't even get on it!), and if I've eaten salty food. But over time, I find that it's generally reliable and I can track my progress over the long haul.
 
I have one of these scales also. The comments everyone has made here are all helpful, i.e. weighing at the same time each day. The point of that is to provide a consistent level of hydration, so that all the other numbers can be compared correctly day-to-day.

You haven't wasted your money...that is simply where the technology is today for a home-based product. It can't literally measure your body fat, % muscle, water, etc...it measures an electrical signal, then correlates that with statistical data it has stored to give you a "best estimate". The manual explains these limitations, and how your current meal/hydration status affects the results.

Mine shows hydration as one of the displayed pieces of data. In the morning, it can be as low as 56%...in the evening, as high as 61%. The low hydration readings gives high body fat %, and the high hydration gives a lower bf%. While I understood that the trend was the important thing, I was kind of curious about which actually WAS closest the the real body fat. Since I had to get a dexascan (bone density measurement exam that gives a respectably accurate body fat % as a side result) anyway, I took lots of scale data on myself at various times of the day for several weeks, made a graph, then compared with the dexascan # on the day I had the test. It turned out for me, 59% hydration correlated with the correct body fat. I now know that if I get on the scale at an "inaccurate" hydration level/time of day, what percent bf to add or subtract to correlate to the 59% hydration.

I don't know if this number would work for anyone else, but I thought this was all interesting and thought I'd share.
 
I have one of these scales also. The comments everyone has made here are all helpful, i.e. weighing at the same time each day. The point of that is to provide a consistent level of hydration, so that all the other numbers can be compared correctly day-to-day.

You haven't wasted your money...that is simply where the technology is today for a home-based product. It can't literally measure your body fat, % muscle, water, etc...it measures an electrical signal, then correlates that with statistical data it has stored to give you a "best estimate". The manual explains these limitations, and how your current meal/hydration status affects the results.

Mine shows hydration as one of the displayed pieces of data. In the morning, it can be as low as 56%...in the evening, as high as 61%. The low hydration readings gives high body fat %, and the high hydration gives a lower bf%. While I understood that the trend was the important thing, I was kind of curious about which actually WAS closest the the real body fat. Since I had to get a dexascan (bone density measurement exam that gives a respectably accurate body fat % as a side result) anyway, I took lots of scale data on myself at various times of the day for several weeks, made a graph, then compared with the dexascan # on the day I had the test. It turned out for me, 59% hydration correlated with the correct body fat. I now know that if I get on the scale at an "inaccurate" hydration level/time of day, what percent bf to add or subtract to correlate to the 59% hydration.

I don't know if this number would work for anyone else, but I thought this was all interesting and thought I'd share.

Holy crap! 59% hydration? My highest ever was 43%! Does this mean that my body fat isn't really 39% but is just reading higher because my hydration levels are so low? I drink tons of water throughout the day, but tend to weigh myself before drinking more than a glass or two.

I have been confused about my bone weight as well - Does anyone know the average bone weight for an average sized woman?
 

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