Single People, Please Exit the Building

I was single for a long time and married late in life. I still have no children and will not be having any.

I dont have any sympathy for people with children. It was your decision to have them so you have to live with that. I also resent the tax breaks you get because of children. I get no such breaks. I also have to pay school taxes and I have no children in school. Us childless people help fund the people with children.

The laying off of people should be based on merit and job duplications. Besides, once people know about the layoffs, they will begin looking and that will alleviate much of the problem because a lot of people will quit.
 
""I was single for a long time and married late in life. I still have no children and will not be having any.

I dont have any sympathy for people with children. It was your decision to have them so you have to live with that. I also resent the tax breaks you get because of children. I get no such breaks. I also have to pay school taxes and I have no children in school. Us childless people help fund the people with children. ""

Stringbean are you my clone???? Our life sounds identical and I swear I got on my oap box just last week about this..... my DH says I should chill about it all but honestly- I live in the most expensive school tax area in Houston and I dont have any.... Property taxes I suck up but hard to swallow the school district one is it!
I'm not a child hater or anything strange but honestly no-one helps me pay the 3000.00 I shelled out last year to keep my 3 pets vaccinated, fed & healthy.

:7
 
They should lay off the incompetent people first. This guy sounds seriously incompetent if he doesn't realize that what he is suggesting is discriminatory and illegal!

As to which would be worse, losing a job as a married or single person, I vote that it would be tougher for the single person. Three years ago, severe economic recession meant that half of our teaching staff (including myself) was facing possible lay-offs. That was also the year I got married. My husband doesn't bring home an income (he is a university student and works additionally on a huge, high-risk business project which may or may not ever make us rich *laugh*) but even so, I felt much more secure knowing that if I lost my job, there was another person who *could* work in a pinch to help us get through it.

As to kids,I don't have any, but I imagine that losing a job and having kids would probably be worse than losing a job as a single person, even with a second person's income. Just a guess -- and a gross generalization. Of course every situation is different.
 
Though I agree with most expressed concerns about the layoff posts (I work in a union shop, it's by seniority), the deviation into bashing people with kids is tough to swallow

Yes, you don't have kids, but you folks were once kids and your parents got tax breaks and the taxpayers of thence paid for your education.

And these kids that are being educated will be your elected leaders and providers in your advanced years.

So even if you don't replace yourself in this "circle of life", you're still a participant. And if you think the price of education is expensive, imagine the cost of ignorance.


"Good education and upbringing, if preserved, will lead to people of a better nature, and these in turn, if they cling to their education, will improve with each generation both in other respects and also in their children." Plato, from "The Republic" circa 380 bc

dave
 
Hey Dave--not that I'm disagreeing w/your post (I don't have any children but have no issues contributing to the education of the generation that will be paying my social security LOL).......

but Plato also said seniors & disabled who couldn't make a worthy contribution to society should be killed off or abandoned in the woods. :p
 
Dave-
Sorry if you felt I was "bashing people with kids" The topic was chilren/married related so I guess i felt I could post my opinion. I truly am sorry if it was taken as bashing.... it was more venting imo.
 
>Dave-
>Sorry if you felt I was "bashing people with kids" The topic
>was chilren/married related so I guess i felt I could post my
>opinion. I truly am sorry if it was taken as bashing.... it
>was more venting imo.
>

Hey I have children and vent at the high cost of education in our real estate taxes. It IS a shame the way it is done. Unfortunately no one has come up with something better.

As far as the lay off situation, truly whoever it is, and whatever dependants they have, it is a bad situation, for anyone! I just heard on the news today a nearby town is laying off 2/3 of a plant that has over 80 people working there. Whatever those people's family situation, it is horrible.
 
I haven't read that quote yet, though with some of his ideas I wouldn't be suprised. In my heart I haven't found a person yet that couldn't make a worthy contribution to society.

My disagreement with Plato was the caste system he would set up in his "republic" and his selective breeding plan, I wonder if that's where Hitler got some of his ideas.

I do agree with Plato on the primary responsibility of the "reigning generation" is to prepare the following generation to take the wheel. After all when we are all "out to pasture" these are the people that will be making the decisions that will affect the quality of our lives and the lives of those to come.

dave
 
>I was single for a long time and married late in life. I
>still have no children and will not be having any.
>
>I dont have any sympathy for people with children. It was
>your decision to have them so you have to live with that. I
>also resent the tax breaks you get because of children. I get
>no such breaks. I also have to pay school taxes and I have no
>children in school. Us childless people help fund the people
>with children.
>

I respect your position, but you *personally* do benefit from having a good school system. It's no coincidence that towns with the best schools, and therefore typically the highest real estate taxes, are the most expensive in terms of housing costs. So, when you potentially make a killing when you sell your home, you can thank the strength of the school system.

That said, if you feel you are paying too much in taxes, move to a different town! Pick one with a shitty school system - houses will be cheaper, taxes will be lower. :)

And everyone has these types of complaints. We all fund the social security system that won't be around for us to benefit from - and we fund it at absurdly high levels compared to those who are currently reaping the benefits. People who ride their bikes to work or take public transportation pay for road maintenance via their taxes, etc. Unless you feel that is unfair as well, real estate taxes funding public schools, is just one of the MANY "inequities," if you chose to think of it this way, of our tax system.

m.
 
Well said.

Why can't we be more understanding of eachother. It really is sad when particulary women can't appreciate eachother. I've got friends all ages, straight, gay, 20s-60s, married, single, SAHMs, carrear focused. Variety is the spice of life so why can't we just appreciate eachother rather than make statements like "i have no sympathy for... "

I work in software and it's kind of a way of life. I think everyone I know has been out of work at one point.

I think its tough for everyone - single Mom's, married with a SAHM, single.

I do think it's probably toughest for folks over 50 getting jobs. It sucks. Perhaps this isn't the case in other industries.

The age bias is so bad and we will all be there sooner or later. We might not all have kids, or be married, but we will get old.
 
I am recently divorced with no children. I do not mind paying taxes for schools. I went to public schools so I benefited from the taxes paid by my parents as well as many others. Now it's my turn to return the favor for another generation. Good schools and educated children benefit all of us. They help to keep our country's economy competitive. I live in a good school district and am happy to pay the taxes to keep it good. It also increases the value of my home.
 

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