P90X Thread Part II

>Seems to me Kathryn knows what she is talking about.

Either that, or I'm just making the whole thing up!;-)
 
Hmm...if a weighted chair is a heavy chair you use to keep it from tipping (though in P90X, they seem to just use regular folding chairs), why not just set a dumbbell on the seat?

Briee: When I did my first week of P90X, every day when I went to bed, I felt like I wasn't going to be able to do the workout for the next day: I was sore, somethings were almost painful (just that "on the verge" feeling), and I was tired! By the time my 5:00 exercise appointment (with myself!) rolled around the next day, I felt ready for it. One thing about P90X, you're going to have to get used to DOMS and tiredness!

I was just thinking about this recently, when someone posted a thread about why most people don't exercise. We regular exercisers (especially weight trainers) have learned to interpret DOMS as a good thing, while non-exercisers probably still consider it to be "pain." I say "Bring it on!"

I'm now in my first "recovery week" of P90X. Feels nice to lighten up a bit for a week. But Core Synergistics! All I can say is that I'm glad I already did TLP Core Foundations several times, otherwise I'd be flailing more than I was on "superman/banana" and the banana rolls. And I credit Core Foundations with getting me ready to do the Dreya rolls the first time out! Yippee! (O.K., I was moving a bit slower as the alloted time went on, but I did 12 full ones!) CS again tonight...yikes!
 
>I was just thinking about this recently, when someone posted a
>thread about why most people don't exercise. We regular
>exercisers (especially weight trainers) have learned to
>interpret DOMS as a good thing, while non-exercisers probably
>still consider it to be "pain." I say "Bring it on!"
>

This is so true.
 
LOL. I think recovery week is inappropriately named. I previewed Core Syn and I think it makes these first three weeks look like an introductory rest phase. I've never done TLP Core Foundations and I have a feeling this is going to be torture for me. I personally would rather do some pullups!!!
 
I did not just make up the part about the weighted chair. The one Tony uses in the tapes is weighted....he says so. Kathryn, putting a weight on the chair would probably work great, but it would have to be a heavy one for me since I would be really using the chair to lighten my body weight. I just got my Door Gym yesterday, so next week we will see.


Briee..fess up.....do you do ALL the pushups from your toes, even those diamond ones? Do you just pick a number? I have been trying to go as long as Tony and that means dropping to my knees. I would like to know how you are going about doing it.


Janice
 
Janice....everyone has strong and weak areas, I guess pushups have become a pretty good area for me because we had to do so many in Tae Kwon Do for the past few years on and off. He would make us do sets of 50 (which the last 20 were really bad form as we were all dying) and we'd have to do SEVERAL sets of these in an evening (on our knuckles no less (and toes)). And I was following AJ's prescription for sets of pushups for my chest workout for the past few months and this is just as insane. So yes I'm doing all of them on my toes. I have no idea if I'm going as long as Tony as this never occurred to me. I LOVE this workout because it has everything to do with what YOU can do - too cool. What I am striving for now is my form, he mentions that you don't want to tuck your chin which I realized I was doing quite a bit, so now I'm picking that spot on the floor and reaching for it with my chin. I LOVE decline pushups as they seem easier for me than regular ones for some odd reason. As for the heart shaped pushups (diamond hand) I looked at my log and I did 12.5 (meaning I kissed the floor trying to do that last one) and 16, resting at #13 for a few seconds, yesterday. AND I love divebombers- don't know why. I use that number and try to do at least that many in the subsequent workout and possibly rest a second and squeeze out a few more....which I always record as ie 13+3, so I know where I rested a few seconds.

I LOVE how he recognizes differences in what everyones doing. He mentioned that Lorraine (?) isn't going quite as low, but doing more reps and if she tries to go really low she will probably get less reps. Keep all this in mind and strive for YOUR goals, at first you may want to go not quite to the floor and just try to do as many as you can without going completely down. Seems everyone is doing something different in these workouts and I don't have that same "trying to do what the instructor is doing" mentality. Finally a workout where I can do what IIII can do. (I could never be doing this without previous Cathe though).

Also....I meant to say earlier...I LOVE his stretches throughout and at the beginning, what part don't you like about them?

NOWWWW as for the AB RIPPER. I can't complete it and it will be sometime before I can. About 12 seconds into it, I dropped my legs and I said "I'm never gonna be able to do this". What's great is...I can work up to it. Maybe in another 12 weeks :7 :7

Briee
 
Briee, you're right about people having different strengths. For most women, push ups are very tough unless you do it all the time. When I was growing up a good friend of mine could pump out the push ups. Why? Her dad was in the military and for his kids punishment he would make them do a 100 push ups!
 
Briee..

Poor Tony is getting on my nerves. I think I am gonna have to "shut him up" for the exercises. He is just too much for me sometimes!! I have the same appreciation for the tapes as you do, I think they are great in that they are all about what YOU can do. As far as the warmups, they seem very inadequate compared to Cathe and I guess I just like to be really warm before I start training or, especially, stretching. He wants to stretch and I am not ready! In a perfect world, I would just add a little Cathe cardio beforehand, but I am trying to pump out these workouts in under 60. Unfortunately. I would love to come in earlier to my job and workout longer, but they'd have a cow. And, like I said, I work out with other people.

Right now, I think it is the other people that are bringing me down. They mean well, but my workout partners are everyday people. They don't get excited about working out and unfortunately it almost always shows. They are the type that peter through a few pushups and then complain about a "pulled" this or a "tingling" that, like they really are injuring themselves. Sometimes, they don't say all that much, but what they do say tends to be negetive. I don't think they realize how much of a complete downer they are to work out with. They just are not like me. I am just really yearning for the kind of workout partner that WANTS to be there and WANTS to make gains and LOVES it. LIKE YOU!!! Oh where, where are you Briee! Why do we have to live soooo far apart!!

So, mostly I am just frustrated. Envisioning having to psyche everyone up for ALL those pullups. And, they won't do them consistently enough to ever make a difference, so they will ALWAYS be struggling. This is the problem!!Poor Tony is having to take the brunt of my dissapointment! I fantasize about leaving my job so that I can work out as long and as hard as I want (even though I know it really is my choice). I just sort of feel like I am "on the hook". They want to be fit and lose weight and the equipment is already there (at work). They only way I could work out alone is if I just forbid them from joining...

Ok, sorry, I am HIJACKING this thread. I will have only 2 kick butt workouts next week. I have to go out of town to see family. Might do Core Syn this weekend or Ab ripper...


Janice
 
Janice, Sounds like your workout partners aren't "bringing it"! Who are they? Can you work out without them? How about wearing earplugs during the workout? (That will also tone down Tony!). I don't think I could stand working out with that bunch! Watch out so they don't sap YOUR motivation. Just imagine Briee and me there with you instead of the mopes you seem to workout with.
 
Kathyrn..
Yeah, my workout buds are "leavin' it". LOL!


They don't mean to be bigtime downers. They just don't understand that when you work out hard, you shut up, and realize that pain comes with the territory (well, you know what I mean). Only you guys know what I mean!:) As Tony says, "do your best and forget the rest". He should also say "It's all in the mind". Because alot of it is. If you think you will fail, you will fail. You can talk yourself in to an aching knee, seriously. "Oh, you don't wanna workout? Well, TOO BAD, it is NOT an option, you JUST DO IT!". I think they think I am a machine programmed to LOVE working out, they don't realize that there are plenty of days I don't FEEL like doing it. But I do. Because it won't get any easier if I don't! They sorta treat it like an option for the day, similar to "do you want ice cream or pie for dessert". If they don't wanna workout, they just DON'T. And then of course complain to me about how fat their butts are getting and WHY can't they lose any weight?????!!!!!!!! AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!! Sometimes I swear I am gonna go out of my mind!:)

I may end up working out alone somehow because my workout buddies are not in good enough shape to do P90X. I realized that this week. AND, because they refuse to give me consistency, they never will be.

(SIGH)

Janice
 
Janice, I think you are a saint!!!!! It would be torture for me to exercise with complainers. I had some friends approach me to please start a little "workout club" here in a nearby town. They wanted to clean out an old store in town and get together mornings to have class. It was winter and my selfish thoughts were....I'm not going to all that work when I can work out instantly in my basement and not go out in the cold, and I'm sure that when all is said and done...I will do all this work to get things going and NO ONE will keep up the motivation. I really should have done it, but I knew that I'd be left driving into town to workout on my own while they slept in on days when they "didn't feel like it". What I was looking for was for them to workout at home for 2 months to ANYTHING..Fonda, walk every day, anything and THEN I would consider it. Just "something" to know that they were committed. Oh well, the phase or idea has past. Again.....you are a saint.

My thoughts are...can you do the P90X at home in the evenings or early in the morning? I can't imagine these women doing this workout without some intense commitment. Cathe would be tough enough!!

And you are so sweet...my dream would be to have some close buds around here who worked out at home and then one day on the weekend we'd get together to have a major intense workout (like Tony mentions....his Sunday workout buddies). This would be a blast and it would be so cool to have buddies who really want to push and sweat like his guys one day a week. Heavenly!!!

Now for the bad news....I think I'll post in on the board to see who has ideas.

Briee
 
RE: Got my P90X

Hi everyone,
Just wanted to pop in and tell you all that I got my toys (DVD's) today so after I look everything over, I'll be ready to come out and play with you.
I cannot do one...not even one pull up unassissted at this point! My goal is to do at least TWO by the end of summer. Oh Boy. This will teach me for reading what all you girls are up to. I think these workouts are going to kill me..LOL
 
YAY WANDA! About those pullups...

WOOHOO Wanda! You're going to enjoy these workouts!

Just an FYI -- As you know, DebbieH and I are co-owning a set of the DVDs. She's one tough cookie -- she's invested in a Power Tower and is going to go straight for learning the pullups. I, on the other hand, am a true wuss at heart and so I have only bought a Door Gym, but at this point I confess that pullups even with a chair assist are so far above my threshold that I don't even enjoy trying. So in addition to using Cathe's back workouts in lieu of the P90X back workouts, I'm enjoying using the resistance bands alternative for all the pullup/chinup segments. I have some SPRI bands that came with an over-the-door attachment, so I hook the black ones up on top of the closet door in my workout room and kneel a little distance away from the door -- works perfect and wowza do I feel it later! I think this is going to make it very possible for me to build up to pullups comfortably. My goal is to graduate to my Door Gym and be able to do at least a few pullups in each grip position by the time I've worked my way through an initial P90X rotation, which will be a little longer than 90 days because of my vacation plans this summer and because I HAVE to interrupt now and then for several Cathe days. :)) There's one exerciser shown in every video using the bands, which makes it both simple to substitute and also makes me feel like I'm not totally wimping out.

Have fun and BRING IT -- and let us know whatcha think, girlfriend!!

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/sport/sport-smiley-003.gif Kathy S. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/spezial/spudniks/spudniklifter.gif
 
RE: Got my P90X

I am joining you Wanda...I just got my P90X DVD's too! I got my weight training and cardio in for the week, so thought I might try Yoga!...:)...Carole
 
RE: Got my P90X

I hate that Yoga tape!!!!! It is just TOO long, for Yoga. I skipped it this week, I only did about 15 minutes of it. My first back workout, I used the bands, but I did not feel like I got enough out of it. Yesterday, for Legs and Back, I tried some Pull Ups. I can not even do one. I did a few assisted ones, but my foot was pushing more that I wanted it to. So, I am going to have my husband attach a hook to a different spot in my basement, and shorten my bands, and try them again next week. These tapes are a really good workout. I have been doing some extra Cathe leg work throughout the week, so I still get my fix.
Lori
 
RE: Got my P90X

I've been browsing the Beachbody site and come across this link that might interest some of you.

It consists of a :

Legs and back tracking spreed sheet, (which adds in the leg part and which band.)Yeah!
Calorie breakdown calculator
Target heart rate calculator
Body composition calculator

http://www.thewolfords.com/beachbody/
 
RE: Got my P90X

WEll, I would love to look at the links, but for some reason I can not open it. Bummer. I am still pleasantly sore from last week. Today is Chest and Back, plus TaeBo's ultimate Lower Body. I am really enjoying these workouts!!!
Lori
 
RE: Got my P90X

The links download thru Excel...I am trying Chest and Back and Ab ripper for the first time today...looking forward to it after all these posts about it!...:)...Carole
 
Carole???

I don't have Excel but the page does open for me. It will not allow me to copy & paste it. Is there another way to view this so I can make a copy? Thanks for any help.

Your-Friend-In-Fitness, DebbieH http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/wavey.gif[/img] If You Get The Choice To Sit It Out Or Dance...I Hope You DANCE!!!
 

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