Newbie confused with SH, MIS, PS

LuvCardio

Cathlete
HI there. I am somewhat of a newbie to Cathe. I have been using for a few months with little structure at all. I jsut do whatever I am in the mood for (bad method I know:)) However, I have lost 18 lbs and a ton of inches! I had to buy new pants because they were all too big! I thank Cathe for all of my success! She gives me the motivation to get up at 5:00 a.m. and workout in the dark like all of you other crazies:)

Anyway, I am really wanting to focus on strength and wt. training and am very confused which tapes I should use, how often and when. I have the MIS, SH, CTX, and PS. I think I have almost all dVD's CAthe sells. I have always struggled w/Muscle tone and getting it in general. My legs seem fat and never toned no matter how much I work out!!!

I have not hit a plateau as of yet. I think I was starting to hit one a few weeks ago. Then, I got sick for 3 weeks and had to back off the workout. Now, my body seems to be losing wt. again like crazy. So.... if I am not in a plateau what should I be doing? How many days a week should I do strength versus endurance etc.??

I just got the PS series and LOVE it. I also love MIS and CTX. I have only done SH a couple times but had a hard time concentrating. Is SH targeted for plateaus primarily?

Also, does CTX count as cardio + weights? Or just cardio?

When I got a couple free personal training sessions a couple months ago he told me to up my cardio to a minimum of 45 minutes intense cardio every single day and increase wt. training. I have listened to him on the cardio and it seems to be working. I do cardio about 5-6 days a week. Not sure if it is too much long term.

Sorry... but I am really confused! Any help you educated pros can provide would be soooooo much appreciated!!!

Thanks!!!
 
Great Post, LuvCardio, I have been wondering the same things for the past 2 weeks ! :). Looking forward to your replies ! I am not much help because I am a newbie too !

Anna
 
To answer your questions, we'd need to know what your goals are in terms of strength training. You mentioned wanting to focus more on weight training, but is your focus to add definition, or to *build* muscle?

S&H wasn't necessarily designed for 'plateaus', but rather to add another training style for a more rounded fitness program. Each of the weight training workouts you have, promote different things. PS and S&H are more strength oriented, designed to increase overall strength and muslce mass. MIS, PH, and CTX are more endurance oriented because the rep speeds and minimal rests between sets aren't condusive to heavier lifting. If you're going for muscle building, then you might want to to PS 1x per week for 8-10 weeks, and then shift over and do a S&H rotation for three weeks.

IMO, CTX does constitute both cardio, and weights, since they're done separately. But, I also don't use it as it was designed. I combine 2 cardio sections for a longer workout, and then do strength training afterwards using either LL, or the CTX Upper Body tape.

If you're trying to add more tone to your legs, you may want to try mixing up your cardio. Running is great for overall leg toning, CTX LL did wonders for my legs personally, and kickboxing is great as well. The key to overall and consistent weight/fat loss is crosstraining, clean eating, and adequate rest.

Just my .02 :)
Nicole
 
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Luv Cardio,

While I am anewbie to the Cathe workouts, I have avidly been into health & nutrition for the last 15 years. One thing that you said really struck me:

I have always struggled w/Muscle tone and getting it in general. My legs seem fat and never toned no matter how much I work out!!!

The first thing you have to determine is your body type. This determines whether you are muscular or willowy, gain definition easily or don't gain it at all, if your prone to carry fat or prone to have low body fat.

Somatypes
There are three basic body types or physiques, called somatypes. Our body build depends largely on what mix of these three somatypes we are born with. The three types are named ectomorphic, endomorphic and mesomorphic.

1. Ectomorphic: People with an ectomorphic physique are born with a smaller amount of muscle cells and have a linear appearance. These people have more difficulty in developing large muscles and are typically naturally slender. An ectomorph can strength train very aggressively and not necessarily gain a lot of muscle mass. This is often desirable for women but not for men. Ectomorphic people tend to be quiet and reflective
Example...Kate Moss or Uma Thurman.

2. Endomorphic: Those with an endomorphic physique have inherited a large number of fat cells and tend to have a rounder appearance. These individuals experience difficulty in achieving muscular definition. The endomorph has a thicker body type and tends to carry more fat weight, so a program that is heavy on aerobic exercise to burn more calories would be warranted, but would still have to have some strength training component. Endomorphic people tend to be magnanimous and love to eat.
Example...Oprah Winfrey or Rosie O' Donnell

3. Mesomorphic: The third somatype is mesomorphic and people with this physique have inherited a relatively larger number of muscle cells. They usually have a triangular appearance and are more likely to develop large and defined muscles. Mesomophic men and women have the best chance of achieving chiseled abs with appropriate training. A 'meso' female may gain muscle mass easily but not want big shoulders, so they should focus on staying away from lifting heavy weights for 8 to 12 repetitions and work more with lighter weights in the 15- to 20-rep range. Mesomorphs tend to brim with energy and vigor.
Example: Arnold Schwarzenegger or Tom Cruise.

Most Of Us Are Mixed Body Types
Few women have a "pure" body type. Relatively few people can be pigeonholed as pure "ecto," "meso," or "endo." Most of us fall somewhere in between. In her book, "Bodyscopes," author Carol Saltus defines nine female somatypes based on Sheldon's (founder of the somatypes) concepts:

Balanced Ecto: A light, sharp, alert body with a narrow, shallow, rather short torso; square shoulders; very long, slim limbs; and narrow hips and pelvis.

Endo Ecto: A long, soft, willowy body that is rounder and looser than the balanced ecto and has a less tapered waistline and more prominent and curvaceous hips and belly.

Meso Ecto: A lean, muscular body with a broader, deeper chest tapering more sharply to the waist than in the balanced ecto.

Balanced Meso: A clean-cut, sturdy, athletic body with chest and shoulders strongly dominant over the belly; a low waistline with little indentation; narrow pelvis and hips; strong arms and legs that don't taper; and well-defined muscle contours.

Endo Meso: A compact, rounded, solid body with more curves and a higher, more indented waistline than the balanced meso.

Ecto Meso: A lean, lithe, agile body that is longer and slimmer than the balanced meso.

Balanced Endo: A small-boned, billowy body with soft, gently swelling curves; full, smooth shoulders; high, hourglass waistline; and deeply curved and prominent belly, hips, and thighs.

Meso Endo: More strongly muscled than the balanced endo with more firmly molded and pronounced curves.

Ecto Endo: A slightly leaner version of the balanced ecto with a high but less sharply indented waistline and narrower chest, shoulders, and hips.

Can You Change Your Genetic Body Type?
Designing a weight-management plan is an individualized venture, even if you can correctly identify your somatype. And no matter what you do, it is difficult, if not impossible, to change the body type you inherited from your parents. You can, however, move toward a more desirable body type--if you are willing to put in the time. For example, a pure, overweight endo can move toward an endo-meso by significantly reducing her fat and calorie intake and exercising for an hour at moderately high intensity every day. But it is difficult to sustain such a lifestyle over the long haul. You need to explore how much time you are really willing to put into this. You may have goal to get down to what you weighed at age 21, but you may not be willing to put in the time. It can take an inordinate amount of time for some people to stay thin.

Be Realistic
A more realistic tack is making sure your diet is primarily plant based and you are getting at least 20 or 30 minutes of physical activity four or five days a week. Additionally, all body types should weight train at least two times a week and stretch their muscles regularly to increase flexibility and lower their injury risk.

Changing your body type should be secondary to improving your health measures (such as blood pressure and cholesterol levels) and your quality of life. You can design your program based on making some changes in your appearance, but it shouldn't be your index for success

Its a scienficially proven fact that the most successful workout plans include [1] a healthy diet, [2] areobic exericse and [3] weight lifting. You are only doing cardio. It has been scientifically proven that long periods of sustained aerobic exercise actaully end up causing muscle loss! Muscle is an active muscle...its your bodies natural fat burner. Each pound muscle requires 35 calories per day just to stay alive regardless of whether you are ative or resting. Muscle eats 24 hours a day. By contrast, a pound of fat only utilizes 1 to 2 calories per day. So the more muscle you have, the less fat you have and the leaner you are...not to mention stronger and more shapely. You NEED to add weight lifting into your routine if you want to see any signifigant changes.

To get rid of fat, 80% of people try dieting first. In the beginning, it works! You lose fat. But here’s why it soon fails: as much as one-third of your weight loss is not fat, but muscle, making you weak and tired. You also lose heart muscle, thereby increasing your risk of heart attack! (The more severe the diet, the more muscle you lose--in both places.)

That’s why dieting (especially “crash dieting”) backfires everytime; when dieters start to eat normally again, 90-90% eventually gain back all the fat they lost--and more! Lost muscle decreased the number of calories they burn--leaving them fatter than ever, and physically weak. In other words, dieting ages you!

Next to dieting, the most popular fat-loss method is aerobic exercise. (About 50% of the overweight try it.) Yes, aerobic exercise does burn calories and causes fat loss. That’s good! Aerobics also strengthens the heart muscle. (Very good!) But aerobics has a dirty little secret: In the rest of your body, aerobics causes muscle loss! In other words, aerobics ages your muscle system! A two-month study of stationary bicyclers revealed that the subjects lost three pounds of fat, but also had a half-pound of fat loss! With two months of hard work, they aged their musclesystems a full year! (And they did it at six times the normal rate of muscle loss from aging!)

Aerobics builds endurance, not strength. We have all seen the withered upper bodies of avid runners. What causes it? Muscles not used in a given aerobic activity shrink away--burned as fuel! Overall, aerobics makes your muscle system weaker, smaller, older! Just as dieting backfires as a fat-loss method when you stop, so does aerobics! Both cause overall muscle loss.

FINALLY fitness experts all agree that aerobics only workouts are conterproductive. Aerobics classes are so discredited that Nike no longer uses the term 'aerobics' in its press releases. Even father of aerobics Dr. Ken Cooper now agrees that aerobics alone doesn't deliver the body people want most or need most.

The best workout for losing weight and looking svelte, says a quiz in the prestigious Tufts University newsletter, involves a combination of aerobics and weight training.

Weight lifting causes fat-loss in two ways: [1] You burn extra calories while you lift, and [2] Each pound of added muscle burns extra calories around the clock, thereby returning your metabolic rate to a youthful level. Weight lifting is also essential in building bone tissue--fighting osteoporosis, one of the biggest age-related diseases. Studies prove that those who walk at least a mile a day lose bone more slowly than non-walkers, but only weight training increases bone mass--at any age. Weights also improve heart function. ONLY WEIGHTS (not aerobics) can restore youthful muscle mass

A balanced workout regimen combining BOTH weights and aerobic exercise will provide THREE TIMES THE FAT LOSS of just aerobics!!!

Any specific workout pattern, no matter how well-designed, eventually loses some of its effectiveness. Over time , the body adapts to it, and progress slows. By alternating videos and adding in weight training you overcome this problem with a technique called muscle confusion.

Changing routine every four to six weeks "shocks" your body into further development. Alternating workouts will help you break through a stagnant "training plateau." And it maintains your interest.

Being fastidious about workout pattern is not as important as staying motivated by choosing the workout you enjoy most at the moment. But it's even better to choose the workout you prefer least: Exercisers always favor doing their strongest moves because they're more fun, and neglect videos that work their weakest body parts which need the most work! Eliminate your weakest parts and a lovely physique is yours!

A weight increase can be just as effective a boost to physical progress as a change in routine. (Both increase intensity and results.) While maintaining good exercise form, increasing weight sizes and alternating workouts puts you on the fast track to a perfect figure.

Concerned it will take more time and effort to get back in shape after a layoff? Don't be. A phenomenon called "muscle memory" allows you to regain your fitness level more quickly than it took to get into shape the first time.

Also read this article which will medically confirm everything I've said here:

http://www.hussman.org/fitness/

Diet and portion control also have a lot to do with dropping pounds. Cut out all refined carbs and sugars....packaged breads, rices, potatoes,pastas, cakes, candies, cookies, crackers and sweets. Cut out all packaged and processed foods. Cut out all sodas, teas and juices that are bottled, canned or presweetened.

Eat clean - eat foods in their natural states. Fresh meat and veggies. Only natural carbs such as baked potatoes, brown rice, corn, peas, beans, bananas, etc. Only whole grain breads - not the packaged kinds htat you find at the supermarket. Get a juicer and make your own juices and smoothies. Make your own iced tea. If you must have sugar, use raw, unrefined sugar, honey or fruit juice.

Watch your portions. 97.3% of people eat 4 to 5 times the daily recommended serving sizes. Serving sizes have quadrupled since 1950. Serving size abuse is the number one cause of obesity in this country (of course coupled with lack of exercise). Portion control is the number one cause of hindered exercise programs.

My own doctor said to me recently that you are far better to eat real foods...butter vs. margarine, sugar vs artificial sweeterners, whole fat foods as opposed to low-fat foods, BUT to eat them in moderation! He said its not the foods that are bad for you, but the amounts you eat. He also said that it is far better to eat smaller amounts of natural foods than larger amounts of chemically derived, processed, packaged lower fat foods.

HTH! So far I've lost 20-lbs following this advice!
 
Samanthac - thank you soooo much for the information!!! I will check out the website and even dig in deeper. You are so helpful and that was so sweet of you to post all the details. I sincerely appreciate it:)

To answer your question... I really have a problem with Muscle mass...basicly I hardly have any! It sounds like I really need to focus on my strength and endurance training. I am going to try and read thru some of the previous posts and figure out some good rotations to help.

Thanks again:)
 
Thanks for the info Samanthac! So what I am wondering--

Is is OK to do Cardio 6 days a week as long as you add in some kind of weight training at least two days a week?

I'm an Endo Meso, and I am not obsessed with getting "thin," (I am satisfied with being curvy and strong) but I do have to stay on top of the cardio to keep things under control. And I like cardio and I hate weight training but I want to make my workout routine more balanced. I am TOTALLY intimidated by all the Cathe weight videos though....

Ariel :)
 
RE: Ariel

If you read the Hussman link, that is overtraining. 3 days of no more than one hour should be enough. Or, 4 days of 45 minutes or 6 days of no more than 30 minutes if you must do it everyday.

If you have to do that much cardio to 'keep things under control", I suggest you take a strong look at diet and portion control. Portion control is one of the biggest sabateurs on an exercise program. I thought I ate so good. And I did, just too much! And I did not have a clue. It took me going to Weight Watchers and starting a food journal to see it. I was supposed to get 21 to 25 points per day and I was actually eating 40 to 50 points per day! A food journla is the sinlge most valauable tool ina healthy eating and exercise program. You don;t realize how much you eat until you see it in black and white. Its amazing what your mind will forget :)

Don't be intimidated by Cathe weight work. I have been lifting for years and still have to go to very low weights, simply because it is a different workout than I am used to. Her routines are fun. And remember, you don't HAVE to do the whole thing. Do as much as you can of each segment, but be sure from week to week that you set goals....i.e. I will do one more rep each workout...until finally you an complete the whole set.

Remember, the workout or body part you hate to work the most, is the one you need the most. You don't like weights because [a] it hurts.

Also, remember that the more muscle you build, the more fat you will burn as 1 pound of muscle burns 35 calories per day as opposed to a pounf of fat which burns 2 calories per day. If you are doing all cardio all the time, you are burning muscle, so essentially you are destroying your bodies natural fat burner. I think you will find that once you start to build muscle, you will need much less cardio 'to keep things under control'.

So try adjusting your diet and portions, drop your cardio to 3 to 4 hours per week and add in 2 to 3 days of strength training. I think you will see a BIG difference!
 
RE: Ariel

Thanks! I think I will just bite the bullet and start a weight video. Any suggestion for a beginner? I guess I will have to cut down the cardio too...:-(

The problem with the portions thing is that I suffered from really severe eating disorder for a long time and have only recently started to be able to "just eat" without it being a major ordeal, so I am hesitant to go back to examining my food that closely.

But I'm getting married in May, so it would be nice to really look and feel GOOD!

Ariel :)
 
RE: Ariel

Congrats that you overcame your eating disorder. I am SO proud of you. Both of my sisters have had eating disorders as well. My one sister overcame it, but my other one is still in denial to this day. Its very sad, but we can't help her unless she wants to help herself.

For beginners...Hmmm. I really like Power Hour which is a total body weight workout. Its tough, but you can always build up on that one. CTX Upper Body, Leaner Legs and Ab Hits make a nice set to rotate. But frankly for a beginner I'd try the Pure Strength Series and the Slow & Heavy Series. There are three videos per set: Legs & Shoulders, Tricpes & Biceps, Back & Chest. So you can train a different two diferent body part each time you work out. I LOVE these sets and they are a lot easier to start with than an all over body workout.

Congrats on your upcoming nuptials. We just had our two year anniversary. I hope the two of you will always be as deliriously happy as we are!
 

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