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lesliemarie

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I could use some advice, I have a 12 year old boy who's grades are pretty poor in several classes, his problem is he won't turn in homework. He is ADHD and is under a doctor's care for it. I have now taken his Computer away and TV and told him he has to earn them back. but does anyone have any ideas on how to get him to remember to turn in his homework? He has been tested and he tests above average on everything so he is very smart, his downfall is homework.
 
I think you are relly samrt to give him consequences for forgetting. It will reinforce the need to get organized. My daughter was the worst at turning in assignments but she had a great teacher who was a former Marine and she learned how to be organized. She would do her work and lose it constantly until Mr. Moore got her in his class. She was given a folder for each subject and overseen while doing homework. She had to place her homework in the folder as soon as she was done. It then had to go into her binder so it could be turned in on time. It took awhile to get it down but once it became a habit, she was home free. My daughter got away with disorganization during 4th, 5th and 6th, grade but the 7th grade has been different and she made the honor roll at last, something I know she's been capable of all along but for her organization skills. He can do it! Mastering those skills was so wonderful for Sydney's self esteem!
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I did that, in the beginning of the year I bought him a binder and 7 folders for each class and labeled them for him. He is such a clutter hound he keeps everything he sees on the ground and I constantly have to de-junk his binder and backpack and room, I feel so bad but I felt like I had to do that, but I also have a reward system also, I offer things he likes but he has to earn them, as soon as he drops in his behavior or grades he looses the reward, the past month I have offered him ink for his printer but he has failed to earn it and he has been disapointed that I have not bought it for him. But he is so mad at me last night that I felt bad but I have feel I have to stick to my rules on this.
 
Oh, definitely, Leslie. Consistency is the key. Initially, I had to be right on top of Sydney and I know she hated me. And I am very open-ended myself and a clutter hound so I knew where she was coming from! So we got a routine. Right after school, if there was homework, it had to be done and put in the appropriate folder. Maybe if you did that and went through his papers, gave him a box for what he wants to keep and have him dispose of what isn't necessary. Strike a deal with him that his binder has to be streamlined and reward him for it. Tell him if he can learn to do it ( and encourage him that he can) he'll get his ink and his computer back. You strike me as a gentle and loving mom. I am really easy going with my kids and they take advantage of that. :) But learning those skills becomes absolutely necessary once they hit middle school and high school. Back off until he cools down then tell him you know how smart he is and how hard it can be to be organized but he has to do it and you will help him every step of the way. As long as Syd stays on top of her school work, I let her room slide. Right now it looks as if something exploded in there! I go in and help her organize periodically, never tossing anything without checking with her first. I know she appreciateds the help. She doesn't know where to begin at times. We also got her a desk so she has a place to do her work and hopefully, although not always, keep her school stuff organized. If you make a habit of de-junking him, perhaps daily at first, then easing back as he learns to do it for himself, overtime he should be able to master it. And as I said, it's ok to be lax in some areas as long as the school work is organized. And communicate, communicate, communicate! Let him know that you hate that he thinks you're a meanie, but you love him too much to not help him learn to organize his school work.

I finally got to put the My child made Honor Roll bumper sticker on my car for Sydney. We have had lots of them from her older sister so I know she was very proud and only a few years ago I was having conferences with her teacher over missing work!

You two can do this and he'll love you for it once it clicks!

Bobbi
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Twelve is a tough age especially with ADHD. Is it possible for you to ask his teachers to remind him to turn in his work? Surely they must collect the work at some specific time during class; couldn't they give your boy an extra nudge?

My son was awful about that stuff all through jr. high and high school. But now he's a sophomore at college and is getting better grades than he ever did before. Maybe your guy will just outgrow it. And don't forget that if he's bright, a lot of the work he's given is probably beneath him and eminently forgettable. Good luck.

--Ann
 
LeslieMarie,

My son has the same tendency. We give him chores each week, taking out garbage and a few other things. He gets to play with friends when he's done.

After school he does homework. After I check his homework or I am sure he has finished it, I tell him to go in his room (this is a whole chore) and put it in the exact place where he will look for it tomorrow when it's time to turn it in. I tell him this is a job he has to do NOW. Then I ask later, did you do what I told you to do?

This does 2 things: first, he knows what all his folders are for, and he gets to choose where he puts his paper. He must decide the handiest/most efficient place to put the paper. This gives him practice in the art of planning.

Second, asking him if he did what I told him, and making sure he answers me checks up on whether he remembers at all what it was he was supposed to do (I know!) and still continues to keep the responsibility for the task in HIS domain.

He actually feels proud of his own organizational progress and rightfully so. He is a work in progress.

HTH,
Connie
 
Leslie Marie, This is a tough one. Punishing (consequences)an ADHD kid for forgetting is like punishing a quadraplegic for not jumping! Everyone has suggested "systems" and I agree. Your son needs to be part of the system planning so he can have some ownership. If you make up the system, it's offensive, unless he agrees. Planning is not part of an ADHDers vocab so you'll need to make suggestions and see what he says. Doing nothing, however, is not an option.

My first suggestion would be to have ONE folder for all homework. More than that is overwhelming to him AND, I guarantee, he'll lose most of the other folders. He'll also need time to get used to the system, and I'm talking at least 3 weeks. Then if he "fails" to follow the system, you can point to that. Not him and his failings. Maybe the system needs adjustments, or maybe he needs adjustments to the system.

The only thing that I know for sure is that ADHD kids feel like failures in general. They know that they operate differently and their only goal is to be able to fit in. As frustrating as they are (I know, I own one), I've learned that they need support and dig their heels in deeper when they feel attacked for something they can hardly control. Think of it this way - he's already "down", and your disapproval justifies what he already thinks of himself - he isn't capable. Your job is to empower him.

Another thing. I'm not a fan of rewards for doing what you're supposed to do. In short, he'll perform IF he wants that particular reward. Is that what you're looking for? Give him gifts for no particular reason other than you love him just for being him. Like the rest of us, our desire to accomplish something comes from an inner desire, a passion, to "work" at something. Not only is the end result a "reward" but the process is a reward too.

I could go on for ages, but enough said. Write anytime and I'll chat. Oh! Computers and games actually comfort ADHD kids because the speed of the games engage their minds. Unfortunately, it also can space them out more if overdone. Make sure you supervise moderation. Alexis
 
Leslie, here's a link to connect you to more resources and perhaps other parents like Alexis who can offer soulutions that have worked for them. Hang in there. You'll find something that works for you and your son and a way to empower him, as Alexis says.

P.S. Alexis is one smart woman so I think you've found a great resource right here!

http://www.help4adhd.org/
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Shucks Bobbi, you make me blush. Got a "little guy" for that? Thanks for the link - it's helpful for me, too! Alexis
 
I do believe that you have a special place at the right hand side of God.....and his computer. Such skill! Such talent! You are one gifted lady! Alexis:*
 
Alexis you are so right about the computers and games for ADHD, I know because my son is ADHD and he is always playing games either on the computer, tv or gameboy and it seems to really comfort him but you are right not to over do it which is really hard sometimes.
 
Bobbi, That's better then my husband saying, "you got a problem." The reason I love those little guys is cuz of their many expressions and that big mouth. Reminds me of me. Alexis
 
I was working out one morning and at the end of the workout, the visit us at Cathe.com came up and he said, "You've never done that, have you, Bob" in a very unpleasant tone! So I hit him with a fish!
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Not really but how else could I incorporate these adorable guys?
He has a bright orange remote control plane he fusses over like it's his baby. When I commented on HIS fixiation, he said, "That's good, isn't it?", because he alleviates the stress of being in the real world that way, whereas I have no stress because being a wife/mother/chauffer/ATM/maid just isn't a tough job. In fact, it's cushy, long naps and bon bons in front of the boob tube....

But, he did name his plane, The Beautiful Bobbi!
So, I am fixiated, no big whoop!
Bobbi
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We have the same problem with our 12 year-old-son. We recently got a six-week interim report and he was going to fail some of his classes because he forgot to turn in assignments--most of them he had already done! He is a very smart boy and has been able to skate by with minimal effort until this year (7th grade). He was very resistant to medication for ADD until this last report card.

One thing that has helped somewhat is that my husband goes through my son's day with him at night. He asks him about what he did in each class, what is coming up, etc. My son is supposed to write it all down in a planner, which has been a learning process. Recently we added the requirement that he also has to call the homework hotline to check on his assignments every night, since he still has a tendency to "forget". Unfortunately, this is pretty time-consuming and if we don't do it for some reason, my son of course starts to slack off.

As for the video games, my son is addicted to them and it is really hard to enforce the time limit--he may get off of one thing for a while (computer, nintendo, game boy) but then he'll get back on something else (long time in the bathroom with the gameboy). Any suggestions?

As for the disorganized rooms, it drives me crazy! When my son was younger, he would cry and cry when he had to clean up his room. I took me a while to realize that this truly is a very difficult task for him. (We didn't realize he had ADHD until a few years back because he can spend enormous amounts of time and concentration on tasks such as legos, etc., that interest him.) I also have a husband with the same problem, a daughter with ADD & OCD, and it's too soon to tell about the youngest two. I am by no means a neat freak, but the constant clutter drives me up the wall as I seem to be the only person who is able to organize and pick up.

My kids (and husband!) are wonderful, really great kids, but it can be very exhausting!

Leigh Ann:)
 

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