Need a shoulder to cry on and maybe some thyroid advice (long)

wutherhi

Cathlete
Edited for clarity:

Can someone please give me some advice or encouragement. I'm really in need of some kind words, some inspiration to continue with the health and fitness program I've done so well with for the last five years.

You see, I've just come back from my first visit with an endocrinologist. I've had thyroid problems for a long time, but despite this I lost 99 pounds beginning in 2000 with diet and exercise. I then hit a two year plateau but finally lost another 27 pounds after I found out I wasn't eating enough.

Then, I accidentally messed up my thyroid meds and gained 24 pounds in 30 days, while eating the same way I always do. It's been over a year now, and I can't lose an ounce, no matter what I do. I've tried everything. I didn't even think this was possible. I've tried eating more. Gained weight. Tried eating 400 - 600 calories a day for a couple of weeks. Weight stayed the same. Tried calorie staggering. Nothing. Tried low carb (really low--like 20g a day). I lived on eggs for 3 weeks. Nothing. I lived on cabbage soup for three weeks. Nothing. I've tried suggested supplements. I've increased my exercise. I've decreased my exercise. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

My GP said there's not a thing I can do about it, even though I'm almost 70 pounds over my ideal weight. At one point, I was within 12 pounds of the high end of my weight range. It's just heartbreaking.

But I had high hopes that the endo would have some ideas. Nope! He said my case is "complex," and basically, implied I should just shut up and deal with it. He barely let me talk. Acted annoyed if I asked a question or volunteered information. Gave me no advice. Made no medication changes. Made no suggestions for changes of any kind. Nothing. And this is one of the doctors recommended as a top thyroid doctor on the about.com thyroid website.

Is this really true? Are there really people who cannot lose weight no matter what they do? Is that even possible? HOW is it possible? It doesn't even make sense. I wouldn't believe me if it wasn't me it was happening to.

Anyway, I've been very careful about my health and fitness for the last five years. I started exercising regularly. I chart my food obsessively and eat strictly according to my food plan. If I put mustard on my veggie meat sandwich, I count it. If I eat a stick of gum, I count it. And I exercise hard--Cathe weights and step plus cycling, rebounding, etc., 5-6 days a week, 45-75 minutes a day.

I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall over and over and over again. I just want to give up. But I desperately don't want to weigh 300 pounds again. I want to continue to be an example for my son, who also has weight problems and does well when I do, but who slacks off when I don't do well. Yet I just keep creeping up and up and up. And the worst part is, no one believes me. They think I'm either lying to them or lying to myself as so many people do.

Oh, I know a lot of people have a lot worse problems than I do, and I truly feel guilty for complaining and feeling sorry for myself when there are people with real illnesses, people who lost loved ones in the tsunami, people who have no homes. I think of all of these things, and the guilt makes me feel even worse. Usually, I can think of things like this and realize how lucky I am, shake off the desire to just give up. But this time I just can't seem to pick myself back up after this latest disappointment as I have after all the others. Does anyone have any suggestions, any advice, any inspiration? Anything to keep me going? Or if nothing else, thank you for letting me vent.

Thanks,
Shari
 
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! I was throwing that "complaining" question out to the universe. I DO NOT WANT ANY ONE HERE TO THINK I WAS HAVING A GO AT THEM..........PLEASE

Marion
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Oh, no, I didn't think that for a second! I'm so sorry if I made it seem that way. I was just apologizing in advance because I knew I really WAS going to complain. I actually thought it was kind of funny that these two threads would come up so close together. Oh, please don't think that. I really, really didn't mean to hurt your feelings, and I didn't think you meant to hurt anyone else's feelings either. I just have kind of a warped sense of humor, I guess. Please accept my apologies. I've edited my previous post to correct this.

Shari
 
Shari sweetie! NO apologie needed, otherwise we will be apologising back and forth all day and you will never get feedback from anyone eles (haha)

No ones feelings are hurt - so the threads all yours sister

Marion


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Time to find another enocrinologist and don't give up on your weight issue. Phone other doctors and get recommendations...don't just look for one in the yellow pages. You want to find one who is considered a specialist in your area. Do you live near a big city that has a teaching hospital. You are apt to have better luck there. I have an endocrine disorder called MEN1 (multiple endocrine neoplasia 1) that causes benign growths in neuroendocrine tissue that results in overproduction of the hormones made in these tissues. Amongst other tumors, one of these is an diagnosed insulinoma that produces too much insulin. The insulin is non-reactive meaning that sugar consumption does not cause levels to spike. Insulin is just constantly produced at some level. This caused me to be constantly hungry and several years ago, I suffred a weight gain because of it. I also have been hospitalized because of sugar levels dropping too low, I had a reading of 33 once when measured after being rushed to a hospital. I found a really good endocrinologist who didn't give up on me and I am now being treated with a combination of medication and behavior modification (many small meals of crab, protein and fat)throughout the day and lots of exercise. I have lost most of the weight and am feeling pretty healthy. It can be done by working with a persistent doctor. Good luck. Be persistent.
 
I don't know much about thyroid problems, but doesn't it seem like everyone everyone knows has thyroid issues??? I don't know, but for myself I try to stay away from "the" Doctor's that will try to give you a pill for everything when it is not necessary. I have a good Doc in general but he will give me a pill for every tiny thing. Sometimes I just want good medical advice and not the pills and I throw them away, if they are samples as soon as I walk in the door. Why do I need to take something that is going to damage my organs just to "candycoat" minor problems like achy knees from workouts...he gave me vioxx..well we all know that is not good for anyone. Thank God I didn't take any.
Maybe you need a better Doctor.
 
RE: Need a shoulder to cry on and maybe some thyroid ad...

Shari, I sympathize with you. Have you looked into other causes for the weight gain and lack of losing? IE..Poly ovarian Cystic Syndrome I think is it, POCD. In women it can cause weight gain with no hope for losing and irregular cycles among other things. Try getting other hormone levels checked and see if a "female" problem could also be contributing to your problem. I am on thyroid medicine and I was able to lose weight with portion control then again with Atkins. I am getting ready to start the portion control thing again.

Another thing to try is (and don't bite my head off) but I have seen alot of writing on this subject but is too cut back on exercise (see Annette ducking her head at all the dumbbells being hurled her way)but sometimes too much exercise can backfire on us.

I know your frustration and it is no fun. I admire your wanting to be an example to your son.

I hope you find the answer soon and I would also find an endo that will listen to me!!:D
 
See another doctor ASAP!! If you lived in New York, I would give you recommendations, but I see you live in Kansas. Do your homework. Call the finest hospitals in your area. Get recommendations. But you definitely deserve second and even third opinions. No doctor should leave you feeling so hopeless. I'm sure you can find someone who can help you. :)

-Nancy
 
Perhaps you might find another endocrinologist for another opinion? A doctor who is a good listener and information gatherer might be helpful to you. Get going and search in your area.
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RE: Need a shoulder to cry on and maybe some thyroid ad...

Thank you. I HAVE been diagnosed with PCOS, but the doctor told me it was no big deal and not to worry about it. I didn't realize it could cause problems like this. I'm going to start doing some research now that I have a lead. Thanks for taking the time to respond and for giving me a shed of hope. I appreciate it more than you know.

Shari

>Have you looked into other
>causes for the weight gain and lack of losing? IE..Poly
>ovarian Cystic Syndrome I think is it, POCD. In women it can
>cause weight gain with no hope for losing and irregular cycles
>among other things. Try getting other hormone levels checked
>and see if a "female" problem could also be contributing to
>your problem.
 
I am really sorry you are dealing with this, but, sadly, you need to get another doctor. It's too bad we can trust our practitioners to give us the answers, the "too bad' attitude is just not good enough, you deserve better treatment and you need to get out there and find someone who will understand and help you to deal with this situation.
This is when I really get disgusted with the medical community!:-(
 
Shari,
I agree with the others on getting a second opinion.
As for other advice, I'm not educated on the issue but wanted to give you a (((hug))).

Don't give up!

Shirley
 
Shari - I know absolutely nothing about your problem, so couldn't give advice about your weight. If your doctor says it's complicated, it probably is. However, I have an opinion that you should find a different endocrinologist who will actually give you the time of day. There's nothing worse than a doctor you can't talk to. Well, OK, there are worse things - but still...
 

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