materialsgirl
Cathlete
>Aaron was not on the plane so he couldn't be one of the
>oceanic 6.
But Aaron WAS on the plane - in the womb!
>oceanic 6.
But Aaron WAS on the plane - in the womb!
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carolyn122162
Cathlete
Okay, I'm confused. I missed an episode or two at the beginning of this season. I saw last season where Charlie dies. What happens to all the survivors on the beach? Ultimately only 8 are left, is that right? What about Locke? Is Sayed a bad guy? I know they are fast forwarding but I got completly LOST..Dang it
Carolyn
Carolyn
kellymom
Cathlete
Some Points to Remember--
**Remember when Claire went to the psychic in her flashback and the psychic said that she MUST raise her child--bad things would happen if she gave Aaron up?? I wonder what that means now that we know Kate's got him......Is Claire going to die or did they kidnap Aaron and that's why Jack is so upset....hmmmm.
**Also, remember that Desmond is not on the flight manifest, so he could get off the island with them and not be part of the Oceanic 6.....
**Remember that at the beginning of this series all signs were pointing to Aaron being connected to the island and crucial to the plot, that's why they kidnapped Claire......could Sayid be working for Ben to protect Kate and Aaron from the freighter people?? And Kate jumped at that deal with the DA that keeps her in California for 10 years on probation--maybe becuase she doesn't want to be able to go back to the island like Jack and Hurley revealed in earlier flashforwards??
Okay, now my brain hurts
Kelly
**Remember when Claire went to the psychic in her flashback and the psychic said that she MUST raise her child--bad things would happen if she gave Aaron up?? I wonder what that means now that we know Kate's got him......Is Claire going to die or did they kidnap Aaron and that's why Jack is so upset....hmmmm.
**Also, remember that Desmond is not on the flight manifest, so he could get off the island with them and not be part of the Oceanic 6.....
**Remember that at the beginning of this series all signs were pointing to Aaron being connected to the island and crucial to the plot, that's why they kidnapped Claire......could Sayid be working for Ben to protect Kate and Aaron from the freighter people?? And Kate jumped at that deal with the DA that keeps her in California for 10 years on probation--maybe becuase she doesn't want to be able to go back to the island like Jack and Hurley revealed in earlier flashforwards??
Okay, now my brain hurts
Kelly
materialsgirl
Cathlete
Carolyn - you should really go back and watch the episodes you missed. A LOT has happened - too much to really explain so that it makes sense. I think you can download the episodes for free and watch them on your computer - that's a great way to catch up!
To summarize:
We don't know how many will be left ultimately. We DO know that 6 Oceanic survivors will leave the island, but we don't know how many will stay. Locke wants to stay on the island, and the people with him are also choosing to stay (Hurley, Sawyer, Claire/Aaron, and Kate). Those following Jack are trying to get off the island.
Sayid doesn't seem to be a "bad" guy - but I don't think it's as black and white as good vs bad. I believe he and Ben are working together to protect the island and its inhabitants (presumably Locke and the others who stayed) from being discovered. There are people (ie, the people on the freighter, and whoever runs that whole operation) who are trying to find the island (for reasons unknown), and Ben and Sayid are intercepting these people and stopping them by whatever means necessary (killing) so that they don't find the island. That's just my theory.
To summarize:
We don't know how many will be left ultimately. We DO know that 6 Oceanic survivors will leave the island, but we don't know how many will stay. Locke wants to stay on the island, and the people with him are also choosing to stay (Hurley, Sawyer, Claire/Aaron, and Kate). Those following Jack are trying to get off the island.
Sayid doesn't seem to be a "bad" guy - but I don't think it's as black and white as good vs bad. I believe he and Ben are working together to protect the island and its inhabitants (presumably Locke and the others who stayed) from being discovered. There are people (ie, the people on the freighter, and whoever runs that whole operation) who are trying to find the island (for reasons unknown), and Ben and Sayid are intercepting these people and stopping them by whatever means necessary (killing) so that they don't find the island. That's just my theory.
materialsgirl
Cathlete
>**Remember when Claire went to the psychic in her flashback
>and the psychic said that she MUST raise her child--bad things
>would happen if she gave Aaron up?? I wonder what that means
>now that we know Kate's got him......Is Claire going to die or
>did they kidnap Aaron and that's why Jack is so
>upset....hmmmm.
[font color=blue]I doubt very much that Claire would willingly give up Aaron, so I think she will die. There are going to be a lot of deaths on this show before all is said and done.[/font]
>**Also, remember that Desmond is not on the flight manifest,
>so he could get off the island with them and not be part of
>the Oceanic 6.....
[font color=blue]I definitely don't count Desmond as one of the Oceanic 6.[/font]
>**Remember that at the beginning of this series all signs were
>pointing to Aaron being connected to the island and crucial to
>the plot, that's why they kidnapped Claire......
[font color=blue]I don't think Aaron was ever considered connected to the island. That was Walt. They kidnapped Claire when she was pregnant to give her medications (to fend off the "island curse", perhaps?), but no mention was ever made of Aaron being particularly special to the island. Walt, however, was kidnapped and practically worshipped. What's up with that???[/font]
>and the psychic said that she MUST raise her child--bad things
>would happen if she gave Aaron up?? I wonder what that means
>now that we know Kate's got him......Is Claire going to die or
>did they kidnap Aaron and that's why Jack is so
>upset....hmmmm.
[font color=blue]I doubt very much that Claire would willingly give up Aaron, so I think she will die. There are going to be a lot of deaths on this show before all is said and done.[/font]
>**Also, remember that Desmond is not on the flight manifest,
>so he could get off the island with them and not be part of
>the Oceanic 6.....
[font color=blue]I definitely don't count Desmond as one of the Oceanic 6.[/font]
>**Remember that at the beginning of this series all signs were
>pointing to Aaron being connected to the island and crucial to
>the plot, that's why they kidnapped Claire......
[font color=blue]I don't think Aaron was ever considered connected to the island. That was Walt. They kidnapped Claire when she was pregnant to give her medications (to fend off the "island curse", perhaps?), but no mention was ever made of Aaron being particularly special to the island. Walt, however, was kidnapped and practically worshipped. What's up with that???[/font]
janiejoey
Cathlete
Aaron wasn't born until after the crash so he can't be one of the oceanic six. Words do get away from me.
Janie
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Jess_jugs
Cathlete
Yeah, I think that the psychic said not to let the baby be raised by another..... but then I read somewhere that he said not to be raised by an *other*. Yeah, it could also be that something happened to Claire & Aaron and then if Kate had a baby named it Aaron?? I don't know, every time one question gets answered there's another twist!
kathryn
Cathlete
> Kate would've had
>to have been visibly pregnant before boarding that flight in
>order to have a son Aaron's age.
Yes, but who would know about it besides the officer who arrested her, and is now dead? And who knows, maybe they are fudging Aaron's age a bit. (Or the whole 'time paradox' thing could work in there as well).
>to have been visibly pregnant before boarding that flight in
>order to have a son Aaron's age.
Yes, but who would know about it besides the officer who arrested her, and is now dead? And who knows, maybe they are fudging Aaron's age a bit. (Or the whole 'time paradox' thing could work in there as well).
kathryn
Cathlete
>I don't know why they said 8 survived, who are they going to
>say the other 2 are that died??
Maybe Claire, if the world thinks Kate adopted Aaron after her death (she would have had to survived to have given birth). And everyone knowing she adopted Aaron makes sense in the context of his being in court showing her in a positive light (any woman can have a baby, but adopting an orphaned child might be seen as more selfless and a sign of her being a better person than before?)
>say the other 2 are that died??
Maybe Claire, if the world thinks Kate adopted Aaron after her death (she would have had to survived to have given birth). And everyone knowing she adopted Aaron makes sense in the context of his being in court showing her in a positive light (any woman can have a baby, but adopting an orphaned child might be seen as more selfless and a sign of her being a better person than before?)
kathryn
Cathlete
>Ultimately only 8 are left, is that right? What about Locke?
>Is Sayed a bad guy?
No, the 6 who make it off the island tell the world that only 8 survived the original plane crash, and of those, two died. For some reason (to protect those who stayed behind? If any did?) they are lying about 40+ people surviving.
>Is Sayed a bad guy?
No, the 6 who make it off the island tell the world that only 8 survived the original plane crash, and of those, two died. For some reason (to protect those who stayed behind? If any did?) they are lying about 40+ people surviving.
I sense that Miles number of 3.2 million dollars was just too random. It has to be some sort of communication in code! Perhaps Miles is Ben's "Man on the Boat?" Although I think Michael (with Walt) is the Man on the Boat. The coordinates Ben told Michael to follow when he was allowed to leave are the same ones that the freaky science guy (Faraday?) told the helicopter to make sure they followed when they left the island. LOVE this show!
P.S. The question of who was in the coffin intrigues me as well...I still think the coffin was too small for an adult!
P.S. The question of who was in the coffin intrigues me as well...I still think the coffin was too small for an adult!
>Aaron is now with Kate do you think Claire stays or does she
>die and asks Kate to take him. Why should that upset Jack?
>It was good episode.
I think that Jack's avoidance of the baby would indicate that Claire died. Everyone on the Island seemed to have some sort of unresolved conflict that they had to come to terms with. Jack's fundamental flaw (at least one of them) is his need to "save" everyone (his ex-wife referred to this in a former episode and we've certainly seen this throughout the show). If Jack tried to save a dying Claire, but failed, then the baby would be a reminder of this failure. Furthermore, Jack's inability to deal with this failure (i.e. go with Kate to see the baby) would also indicate that Jack has NOT come to terms with this flaw - thus his future downward spiral to drugs and alcohol and his desire to return to the island, as we saw in the flash-forward flashback!!!!! YIKES - did that make sense?!
That's my theory about Jack and Aaron - I think! :7 :7
>die and asks Kate to take him. Why should that upset Jack?
>It was good episode.
I think that Jack's avoidance of the baby would indicate that Claire died. Everyone on the Island seemed to have some sort of unresolved conflict that they had to come to terms with. Jack's fundamental flaw (at least one of them) is his need to "save" everyone (his ex-wife referred to this in a former episode and we've certainly seen this throughout the show). If Jack tried to save a dying Claire, but failed, then the baby would be a reminder of this failure. Furthermore, Jack's inability to deal with this failure (i.e. go with Kate to see the baby) would also indicate that Jack has NOT come to terms with this flaw - thus his future downward spiral to drugs and alcohol and his desire to return to the island, as we saw in the flash-forward flashback!!!!! YIKES - did that make sense?!
That's my theory about Jack and Aaron - I think! :7 :7
kellymom
Cathlete
Aaron is definitely connected to the island somehow, or at least the mystery--remember how the season finale (or close to it)one year was the losties and the french woman getting ready to battle the others because they thought they were coming to take Aaron away? Just like they took the french woman's baby. I don't remember every detail, but there was definitely a long running story line after Aaron was born about keeping him safe from the others. They never intended Claire to escape and planned for the baby to be born with them. Ben's/the french woman's daughter helped her escape. I bet it all comes together somehow.
Runcrazy
Cathlete
I thought she said Eric also but was corrected by one of my coworkers.
A thought here...I'm thinking Aaron is part of the 6 but Claire stayed behind because they can't both survive off the island since Aaron was born there. So maybe one or either can leave but not both.
I think Locke is in the coffin and eventually Sayid will "do in" Ben. Lots of mystery!
Jo
A thought here...I'm thinking Aaron is part of the 6 but Claire stayed behind because they can't both survive off the island since Aaron was born there. So maybe one or either can leave but not both.
I think Locke is in the coffin and eventually Sayid will "do in" Ben. Lots of mystery!
Jo
I think the coordinates are a portal or door to the island. I think back to the test that David Faraday did where there was a 34 minute difference in the expected arrival time and actual arrival time of the payload. If those coordinates aren't followed, what happens? Do you get lost in time? Do you end up back at the island? What?!
Among everyone I know who watches 'Lost," there has been question as to whether Kate said "Aaron" or "Eric." I know I heard "Aaron" at first because that's what my ears wanted to hear at that moment, but when I listened again, it could have been "Eric!" But who the heck would Eric be? I think it's the writers and producers messing with us!
Aimee
Aimee
pwmatt
Cathlete
I agree that Aaron is not one of the 6. I have also heard that Sun and Jin will be, but that is not my idea.
I totally forgot about the tie betwwen Jack and Claire. I need to review some of the earlier episodes. There's probably a bunch of stuff i don't remember that would clear some things up.
My gut feeling is that Claire is dead and that Kate and Jack are totally involved. I was thinking that Kate had some kind of plot to get Aaron and she talkked Jack into helping her.
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I totally forgot about the tie betwwen Jack and Claire. I need to review some of the earlier episodes. There's probably a bunch of stuff i don't remember that would clear some things up.
My gut feeling is that Claire is dead and that Kate and Jack are totally involved. I was thinking that Kate had some kind of plot to get Aaron and she talkked Jack into helping her.
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