Is it REALLY 75% DIET and 25% exercise??
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Kelley,
I would so like to hear more about the Ediet you are on. Do you have their website?
I too eat anything and everything I want and do not gain weight anywhere except having a little pooch.That always seemed a small price to pay in order to be able to eat whatever I wanted. But what I have discovered as I too am approaching 35 is that when i only eat what I want (high carbs, fat, etc), it doesnt leave me room in my tummy or the day to concentrate on the "important" essentials, especially protein. So instead of eating an "empty" portion like a bagel, I've tried substituting it for a piece or chicken or can of tuna. However, I still dont think Im meeting my quota of appropriate protein per day. And being on the lean side to begin with, with weight training or even minimal amounts of cardio, I can easily be sacrificing my muscle mass if I dont eat appropriately while exercising. I have read extensively on protein powders and am goind to start adding 30 grams or so this way each day.
Any opinions on "protein powders" and other supplements.??????
Thanks,
GN
I would so like to hear more about the Ediet you are on. Do you have their website?
I too eat anything and everything I want and do not gain weight anywhere except having a little pooch.That always seemed a small price to pay in order to be able to eat whatever I wanted. But what I have discovered as I too am approaching 35 is that when i only eat what I want (high carbs, fat, etc), it doesnt leave me room in my tummy or the day to concentrate on the "important" essentials, especially protein. So instead of eating an "empty" portion like a bagel, I've tried substituting it for a piece or chicken or can of tuna. However, I still dont think Im meeting my quota of appropriate protein per day. And being on the lean side to begin with, with weight training or even minimal amounts of cardio, I can easily be sacrificing my muscle mass if I dont eat appropriately while exercising. I have read extensively on protein powders and am goind to start adding 30 grams or so this way each day.
Any opinions on "protein powders" and other supplements.??????
Thanks,
GN
Kelley,
I posted a reply to one of your earlier posts. Didnt know if you got it.........
Same problems here. Bulging tummy with very thin arms and legs (did you say that too?) .
Read a reputable site talking about waistlines and abs. Claimed you can do ab workouts endlessly but if there is fat on top of the abs, you wont see your six pack period. The site said that a 200 lb person has the same six pack as a 100 lb person. Just has more layers of fat to get rid of. All ab workouts do is strengthen the abs but absolutely will not make them visible until you clean up the layer or layers of fat on top of them. I have one nice layer I would like to get rid of. Hopefully relacing some of the really good "useless" foods Im eating with healthier high protein foods will help with that, (along with exercise to aid in burning it off). Hope that helps.
Any opinions on this ? Has anyone else ever heard that or have they successfully done endless ab workouts and saw results?
GN
I posted a reply to one of your earlier posts. Didnt know if you got it.........
Same problems here. Bulging tummy with very thin arms and legs (did you say that too?) .
Read a reputable site talking about waistlines and abs. Claimed you can do ab workouts endlessly but if there is fat on top of the abs, you wont see your six pack period. The site said that a 200 lb person has the same six pack as a 100 lb person. Just has more layers of fat to get rid of. All ab workouts do is strengthen the abs but absolutely will not make them visible until you clean up the layer or layers of fat on top of them. I have one nice layer I would like to get rid of. Hopefully relacing some of the really good "useless" foods Im eating with healthier high protein foods will help with that, (along with exercise to aid in burning it off). Hope that helps.
Any opinions on this ? Has anyone else ever heard that or have they successfully done endless ab workouts and saw results?
GN
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I am EXACTLY the body type you describe--long, skinny arms and legs with a thick middle kinda like a marshmallow with four toothpicks stuck in it--if I were to let my exercise program go.
Dieting NEVER changed my form! All it did was increase the skinniness of the legs and arms and maybe slightly reduce the middle. But years ago when I realized that exercise was the only way to change my body and gave up the ridiculous eating restrictions, my body changed drastically. My legs and arms are well muscled, my abs and waist are defined and I enjoy treat eating daily--not to the extent that I overconsume calories, nor do I leave out necessary nutrients--but I have something junky sweet each and every day.
For people who don't get where they want to go by watching calories, there can be several reasons why--eating has to be properly timed and exercise, ie output, can't be overestimated, nor can the daily caloric intake be lower than resting metabolic rate without resulting in a lowering of that rate.
Any area of the body that is well muscled but not well defined is most likely hidden by a layer of fat. If you are maximizing your muscularity but still have more fat than you want, you will need to expend more calories or take in fewer--the former is preferrable.
BTW, there's an article in a 2000 issue of an ACSM publication indicating that exercise only is a viable method of reducing body fat in obese populations. This and another article in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning found that the reason that it was previously though that diet was more important than exercise was due to overestimation of the number of calories expended during exercise.
Maribeth
I am EXACTLY the body type you describe--long, skinny arms and legs with a thick middle kinda like a marshmallow with four toothpicks stuck in it--if I were to let my exercise program go.
Dieting NEVER changed my form! All it did was increase the skinniness of the legs and arms and maybe slightly reduce the middle. But years ago when I realized that exercise was the only way to change my body and gave up the ridiculous eating restrictions, my body changed drastically. My legs and arms are well muscled, my abs and waist are defined and I enjoy treat eating daily--not to the extent that I overconsume calories, nor do I leave out necessary nutrients--but I have something junky sweet each and every day.
For people who don't get where they want to go by watching calories, there can be several reasons why--eating has to be properly timed and exercise, ie output, can't be overestimated, nor can the daily caloric intake be lower than resting metabolic rate without resulting in a lowering of that rate.
Any area of the body that is well muscled but not well defined is most likely hidden by a layer of fat. If you are maximizing your muscularity but still have more fat than you want, you will need to expend more calories or take in fewer--the former is preferrable.
BTW, there's an article in a 2000 issue of an ACSM publication indicating that exercise only is a viable method of reducing body fat in obese populations. This and another article in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning found that the reason that it was previously though that diet was more important than exercise was due to overestimation of the number of calories expended during exercise.
Maribeth
Maribeth,
Thankyou so much on the reply. Now how did you get those arms and legs (in particular) to "mass" up. and how many days per week for the legs. I thought 3 but so many others are saying it's too much for SH and PS.
P.s. What do you think about protein supplementaion. I think I need to do it once or maybe twice daily to get my recommended protein per day. I am on the road alot and quick meals are often what I can spare. I would much rather drink a protein supplement than "hit " a McDonalds (and convince myself that a Fish Filet is adequate protein)........although they are so yummy!
GN
Thankyou so much on the reply. Now how did you get those arms and legs (in particular) to "mass" up. and how many days per week for the legs. I thought 3 but so many others are saying it's too much for SH and PS.
P.s. What do you think about protein supplementaion. I think I need to do it once or maybe twice daily to get my recommended protein per day. I am on the road alot and quick meals are often what I can spare. I would much rather drink a protein supplement than "hit " a McDonalds (and convince myself that a Fish Filet is adequate protein)........although they are so yummy!
GN
*QUOTE* If you get your nutrients in the needed quantities and don't take in more calories than you need, and eat frequently enough to avoid glycogen depletion, AND are on a sound exercise program, you will not gain extra body fat. This isn't my opinion--it's science. *END QUOTE*
Yes, Maribeth, I agree with you completely, that if you are not taking in more calories than you need, you will not gain extra body fat, but some medical conditions, such as hypothyroidism, cause some of us to NEED fewer calories, to burn fewer calories than someone with a normal metabolism. Therefore, we can't simply eat "normally" and lose weight or even avoid weight gain. Even a "normal," calorie-restricted diet can include far more calories than we are able to burn, even with regular exercise. We are the people who survive famines, because we simply don't burn as many calories. Medical science does recognize this phenomenon, and sometimes it is extremely difficult to control.
Following is a list of symptoms of hypothyroidism, as detailed by the Merck Manual, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, and the Thyroid Foundation of America:
I am gaining weight inappropriately
I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise
I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.)
I feel fatigued, exhausted
Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic
The list goes on, as hypothyroidism is an autoimmune problem and affects almost all body functions, but those above are the most applicable.
This IS an emotional issue for me, I admit--very frustrating--not only because it is so very difficult to reach and maintain a normal, healthy weight, but because so few people know much about this condition or even believe it is possible.
Yes, Maribeth, I agree with you completely, that if you are not taking in more calories than you need, you will not gain extra body fat, but some medical conditions, such as hypothyroidism, cause some of us to NEED fewer calories, to burn fewer calories than someone with a normal metabolism. Therefore, we can't simply eat "normally" and lose weight or even avoid weight gain. Even a "normal," calorie-restricted diet can include far more calories than we are able to burn, even with regular exercise. We are the people who survive famines, because we simply don't burn as many calories. Medical science does recognize this phenomenon, and sometimes it is extremely difficult to control.
Following is a list of symptoms of hypothyroidism, as detailed by the Merck Manual, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, and the Thyroid Foundation of America:
I am gaining weight inappropriately
I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise
I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.)
I feel fatigued, exhausted
Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic
The list goes on, as hypothyroidism is an autoimmune problem and affects almost all body functions, but those above are the most applicable.
This IS an emotional issue for me, I admit--very frustrating--not only because it is so very difficult to reach and maintain a normal, healthy weight, but because so few people know much about this condition or even believe it is possible.
Wutherhi,
Early on, I mentioned that all of what I am saying is for people who have no metabolic diseases. Hormonal imbalances and disease processes can lead to muscle wasting and fat storage as a result of the calories released as muscle is broken down--case in point is the person who has to be on prednisone for extended periods.
But for the average healthy person, it is simply calories out vs calories in.
Maribeth
Early on, I mentioned that all of what I am saying is for people who have no metabolic diseases. Hormonal imbalances and disease processes can lead to muscle wasting and fat storage as a result of the calories released as muscle is broken down--case in point is the person who has to be on prednisone for extended periods.
But for the average healthy person, it is simply calories out vs calories in.
Maribeth
If your only goal is to be skinny, then it's true, you can eat anything you want. There are a lot of people around who drink, smoke, eat junk all day who are a size zero - but they usually look washed out. Their skin is greyish, they have more wrinkles and no shinny eyes, they usually don't feel good. They might be a size zero but they are very unhealthy looking - not attractive at all.
If you want to be skinny and healthy looking, you have to eat nutrious foods.
If you want to be skinny and healthy looking, you have to eat nutrious foods.
When talking about diet, there are other issues besides weight loss to consider. Your body needs healthy choices to remain healthy. After reading all of these messages, what I'm hearing is "It's ok to eat pretty much whatever you want as long as you're able to burn enough calories to maintain or lose weight." Surely this is not the message we need to convey.
My husband (at age 40) is still very slim, and takes that as license to eat sweet rolls and coke for breakfast, greasy fast food for lunch, chips and candy for snacks, more sodas throughout the day, a bowl of rice or beans for dinner, more chips or maybe some sugary kiddie cereal as late night snack. Needless to say, he is the envy of all the women he works with, but this scares me to death. He may never gain weight - his father is still slim, too - but can diabetes, heart disease, cancer be in his future? I fear it's only a matter of time.
Angela
My husband (at age 40) is still very slim, and takes that as license to eat sweet rolls and coke for breakfast, greasy fast food for lunch, chips and candy for snacks, more sodas throughout the day, a bowl of rice or beans for dinner, more chips or maybe some sugary kiddie cereal as late night snack. Needless to say, he is the envy of all the women he works with, but this scares me to death. He may never gain weight - his father is still slim, too - but can diabetes, heart disease, cancer be in his future? I fear it's only a matter of time.
Angela
I never went to WW but a friend of mine had two books so she gave me one of hers.
A current weight of 200 to 224 lbs would eat 24-29 points a day.My friends said that on weight watchers one point is worth 50 cals.But veggies such as(beans,beets,broccoli,cabbage,greens.lettuce,etc) are zero points per cup.So although you are eating cals they are not counted the same way.I don't know if after you eat more then 1 cup then they add up? Not sure about that.
Hope I helped,
Lori
A current weight of 200 to 224 lbs would eat 24-29 points a day.My friends said that on weight watchers one point is worth 50 cals.But veggies such as(beans,beets,broccoli,cabbage,greens.lettuce,etc) are zero points per cup.So although you are eating cals they are not counted the same way.I don't know if after you eat more then 1 cup then they add up? Not sure about that.
Hope I helped,
Lori
RE: Slim people have the same heart disease risks...
Hi Angela,
I have heard this too - in fact it is something I learnt at college in Physiology class. Basically, a thin person who can eat whatever they like, and has a diet high in fat (all the nasties are pretty much hi in saturated fat too, which will clog your arteries, as will smoking I hasten to add) because they can get away with it, are running the same artery clogging risks as say a person who is obese from eating all the wrong things. You can't win, no matter what shape you are. What you input into your body is very important, diet-wise. This is leaving out all the calorie/weight loss issues.
I am in a dilemma now that I have started my low fat eating plan, what do I do about my love of smoked mackerel ? It is very high in fat, it is a good fat though (OMEGA 3's and all that), and it has been proven that if you eat an oily fish like Mackerel three times a week, it will reduce your chances of arthritis in later life. Am I going to give up my mackerel, no I am not, because it is good for me. Instead I will cut it back to once every 2 weeks until I reach my goal.
Anna
Hi Angela,
I have heard this too - in fact it is something I learnt at college in Physiology class. Basically, a thin person who can eat whatever they like, and has a diet high in fat (all the nasties are pretty much hi in saturated fat too, which will clog your arteries, as will smoking I hasten to add) because they can get away with it, are running the same artery clogging risks as say a person who is obese from eating all the wrong things. You can't win, no matter what shape you are. What you input into your body is very important, diet-wise. This is leaving out all the calorie/weight loss issues.
I am in a dilemma now that I have started my low fat eating plan, what do I do about my love of smoked mackerel ? It is very high in fat, it is a good fat though (OMEGA 3's and all that), and it has been proven that if you eat an oily fish like Mackerel three times a week, it will reduce your chances of arthritis in later life. Am I going to give up my mackerel, no I am not, because it is good for me. Instead I will cut it back to once every 2 weeks until I reach my goal.
Anna
JenniferAnn
Cathlete
RE: Slim people have the same heart disease risks...
My grandfather was very slim all of his life despite eating eggs and bacon for breakfast every morning. He died of a heart attack in his early 60's. He ate the typical Texas country fried everything diet for all of his life and it killed him at a young age. But he was skinny as a rail.
My grandfather was very slim all of his life despite eating eggs and bacon for breakfast every morning. He died of a heart attack in his early 60's. He ate the typical Texas country fried everything diet for all of his life and it killed him at a young age. But he was skinny as a rail.
JenniferAnn
Cathlete
Thanks Maribeth. BTW, they could really use your common sense over on the nutrition section of the Firm Ya Ya's board. There are some Atkins cheerleaders over there convincing everyone that low carb is the way to go.
>If your only goal is to
>be skinny, then it's true,
>you can eat anything you
>want. There are a lot
>of people around who drink,
>smoke, eat junk all day
>who are a size zero
>- but they usually look
>washed out. Their skin is
>greyish, they have more wrinkles
>and no shinny eyes, they
>usually don't feel good. They
>might be a size zero
>but they are very unhealthy
>looking - not attractive at
>all.
>
Hi, I quoted this post because it described me about 6-7 yrs. ago. I was an exercise nut, very thin but I just didn't look like I worked out. I looked rather waifish (is that even a word? lol). I couldn't understand why I was tired most of the time. I craved junk foods bad too. I watched my calories but I wasn't obsessive. I was not eating enough whole foods or protein. When I "cleaned up" my eating ( I don't "diet") habits. Such as eating more protein, raw vegetables and fruit, and more healthy fats it totally changed not only my body but my whole eating/working out seemed to just be easier. I had more energy and could really enjoy my workouts.
You have to think of the long term picture. At first you may exercise just to look good but after a while you have to have a more long term goal and that usually is about extending your health into old age which means you have to take food into consideration also. It's all about balance. Exercise and proper nutrition go hand in hand, if your goal is to be healthy.
It's also something you just have to experiment with. No bodies are the same. What I eat gives me energy and I feel healthy and strong but it may not be enough carbs or protien for someone else. There's no set mold. Calories in and out count but where the calories come from is really important. At least for my body.
>be skinny, then it's true,
>you can eat anything you
>want. There are a lot
>of people around who drink,
>smoke, eat junk all day
>who are a size zero
>- but they usually look
>washed out. Their skin is
>greyish, they have more wrinkles
>and no shinny eyes, they
>usually don't feel good. They
>might be a size zero
>but they are very unhealthy
>looking - not attractive at
>all.
>
Hi, I quoted this post because it described me about 6-7 yrs. ago. I was an exercise nut, very thin but I just didn't look like I worked out. I looked rather waifish (is that even a word? lol). I couldn't understand why I was tired most of the time. I craved junk foods bad too. I watched my calories but I wasn't obsessive. I was not eating enough whole foods or protein. When I "cleaned up" my eating ( I don't "diet") habits. Such as eating more protein, raw vegetables and fruit, and more healthy fats it totally changed not only my body but my whole eating/working out seemed to just be easier. I had more energy and could really enjoy my workouts.
You have to think of the long term picture. At first you may exercise just to look good but after a while you have to have a more long term goal and that usually is about extending your health into old age which means you have to take food into consideration also. It's all about balance. Exercise and proper nutrition go hand in hand, if your goal is to be healthy.
It's also something you just have to experiment with. No bodies are the same. What I eat gives me energy and I feel healthy and strong but it may not be enough carbs or protien for someone else. There's no set mold. Calories in and out count but where the calories come from is really important. At least for my body.
Connie1
Cathlete
To gn979
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I'm not Maribeth, but I do know that to "mass up" you need to lift heavy. The more volume (pounds multiplied by reps), the more mass.
Equally important is rest between workouts. A high volume program does not have to take long. Here is an example using Cathe's tapes: S&H back, chest, rest, light cardio, S&H Legs/shoulders, S&H bi/tri, rest, light cardio or rest. That's seven days. Avoid working one body part twice. This is "massing up."
Then the next week you could do something else that works every body part once thoroughly, with plenty of S&H and even heavier, fewer reps if you want (like 4,5 reps with the heaviest weight you can with GOOD FORM) and longer rests between sets, like 2 minutes instead of 1. That's effective.
Do more cardio *after* a phase of "massing up" and don't worry about initial "bulking," just use your head and don't eat way out of balance. Keep proteins, fats and carbs about even (I mean close to what they should be, no fried battered fish, what's wrong with a tuna salad sandwich, yes you can use mayo) and don't worry about intense cardio.
After you add muscle for several weeks with plenty of sensible rest intervals then change it up to a more fat burning rotation with for example Power hour, Rhythmic Step, rest, IMax, rest, Power hour, rest. Whoa, the effectiveness of this is extremely increased when you have more muscle working.
I don't know you too much, just from what you say in your post but I hope you can use these hints. We are all different but I am using guidelines I have learned and applied them using Cathe's workouts.
Treat meal preparation as a mild form of cardio if that will help you spend more time on it, LOL! Sometimes we really have to use clever tricks to change our ingrained habits! HTH!
-Connie http://www.plaudersmilies.de/wave.gif
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I'm not Maribeth, but I do know that to "mass up" you need to lift heavy. The more volume (pounds multiplied by reps), the more mass.
Equally important is rest between workouts. A high volume program does not have to take long. Here is an example using Cathe's tapes: S&H back, chest, rest, light cardio, S&H Legs/shoulders, S&H bi/tri, rest, light cardio or rest. That's seven days. Avoid working one body part twice. This is "massing up."
Then the next week you could do something else that works every body part once thoroughly, with plenty of S&H and even heavier, fewer reps if you want (like 4,5 reps with the heaviest weight you can with GOOD FORM) and longer rests between sets, like 2 minutes instead of 1. That's effective.
Do more cardio *after* a phase of "massing up" and don't worry about initial "bulking," just use your head and don't eat way out of balance. Keep proteins, fats and carbs about even (I mean close to what they should be, no fried battered fish, what's wrong with a tuna salad sandwich, yes you can use mayo) and don't worry about intense cardio.
After you add muscle for several weeks with plenty of sensible rest intervals then change it up to a more fat burning rotation with for example Power hour, Rhythmic Step, rest, IMax, rest, Power hour, rest. Whoa, the effectiveness of this is extremely increased when you have more muscle working.
I don't know you too much, just from what you say in your post but I hope you can use these hints. We are all different but I am using guidelines I have learned and applied them using Cathe's workouts.
Treat meal preparation as a mild form of cardio if that will help you spend more time on it, LOL! Sometimes we really have to use clever tricks to change our ingrained habits! HTH!
-Connie http://www.plaudersmilies.de/wave.gif
The fat flush plan.
Okay, I have a question for Maribeth or maybe someone that has tried it. I'm currently on my 4th day of the fat flush plan what do you think of this? it consist of three phases the 1st phase is very restrictive but, it's to cleanse your system which I've never done before and I think is certainly a good thing to do every now and then. For those who don't know what it is the first phase you drink unsweetened cranberry juice in a 32ounce bottle two times a day that's 4ounces of cranberry juice and the rest is water. She also says that you should take GLA,lots of protein and steamed veggies and eat two eggs a day, and lemon juice in hot water before breakfast,flaxseed. But no white flour, no sugar,caffeine, no dairy products you know what I mean.
I certainly no this is not something I could do for the rest of my life no way, the first phase last 14 days then phase two you can incorporate carbs like maybe a peace of toast for breakfast. The cranwater is suppose to be really good for helping with cellulite. Which I have alot of. So, what do you guys think? has anyone else tried it? Thanks
Shanda
Okay, I have a question for Maribeth or maybe someone that has tried it. I'm currently on my 4th day of the fat flush plan what do you think of this? it consist of three phases the 1st phase is very restrictive but, it's to cleanse your system which I've never done before and I think is certainly a good thing to do every now and then. For those who don't know what it is the first phase you drink unsweetened cranberry juice in a 32ounce bottle two times a day that's 4ounces of cranberry juice and the rest is water. She also says that you should take GLA,lots of protein and steamed veggies and eat two eggs a day, and lemon juice in hot water before breakfast,flaxseed. But no white flour, no sugar,caffeine, no dairy products you know what I mean.
I certainly no this is not something I could do for the rest of my life no way, the first phase last 14 days then phase two you can incorporate carbs like maybe a peace of toast for breakfast. The cranwater is suppose to be really good for helping with cellulite. Which I have alot of. So, what do you guys think? has anyone else tried it? Thanks
Shanda
RE: The fat flush plan.
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Shanda,
From the sound of it, I don't like this program. It appears to be yet another fad diet.
Please don't be taken in by all the hype. Yes, you do have to provide your body with necessary nutrients, but you can also eat fun stuff, too. People are missing the message--I've never said that providing the nutrients the body needs isn't important. What I have said is that obsession with eating "clean" is just that--an obsession.
I'm an example of a person who eats a healthy diet AND includes sugary, fatty treats on a daily basis and am able to keep my body fat low--not through any super speedy metabolism, but due to consistant adherence to a strenuous exercise program.
And, over the years, I've modified portions of my diet--not the treat eating, but the protein content, which made a big difference. But this was without having to rigidly follow anybody's "clean" eating program, period. You have to provide both the raw materials in the form of foodstuffs and the stimulus in the form of exercise to develop strong muscles. But you can do this and eat treats, too, as long as you don't exceed your daily caloric requirements.
Again, to each his own--everybody has to do what makes them comfortable. But the science behind it shows that to demonize eating controlled amounts of "bad" foods is just plain wrong.
BTW, the tendency towards heart disease, just as with most other diseases, is the result of genetics. I've seen many, many cardiac rehab patients who strictly adhere to diet and exercise programs only to have to go on cholesterol lowering meds or have multiple bypass surgeries--in their cases, it is a matter of heredity. My 95 year old grandmother is healthy as a horse and has eaten bacon and eggs, sweets, butter and grease all her life and is still going strong. She exercises and has no genetic tendency towards heart disease, nor any sign of it even at her advanced age.
Please understand my point with this. Again, it isn't to negate the benefits of good nutrition, but to make people aware of the fact that rigidity in eating isn't necessary for a fit body, nor are "poor" eating habits a guarantee of illness and disease. Maribeth
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Shanda,
From the sound of it, I don't like this program. It appears to be yet another fad diet.
Please don't be taken in by all the hype. Yes, you do have to provide your body with necessary nutrients, but you can also eat fun stuff, too. People are missing the message--I've never said that providing the nutrients the body needs isn't important. What I have said is that obsession with eating "clean" is just that--an obsession.
I'm an example of a person who eats a healthy diet AND includes sugary, fatty treats on a daily basis and am able to keep my body fat low--not through any super speedy metabolism, but due to consistant adherence to a strenuous exercise program.
And, over the years, I've modified portions of my diet--not the treat eating, but the protein content, which made a big difference. But this was without having to rigidly follow anybody's "clean" eating program, period. You have to provide both the raw materials in the form of foodstuffs and the stimulus in the form of exercise to develop strong muscles. But you can do this and eat treats, too, as long as you don't exceed your daily caloric requirements.
Again, to each his own--everybody has to do what makes them comfortable. But the science behind it shows that to demonize eating controlled amounts of "bad" foods is just plain wrong.
BTW, the tendency towards heart disease, just as with most other diseases, is the result of genetics. I've seen many, many cardiac rehab patients who strictly adhere to diet and exercise programs only to have to go on cholesterol lowering meds or have multiple bypass surgeries--in their cases, it is a matter of heredity. My 95 year old grandmother is healthy as a horse and has eaten bacon and eggs, sweets, butter and grease all her life and is still going strong. She exercises and has no genetic tendency towards heart disease, nor any sign of it even at her advanced age.
Please understand my point with this. Again, it isn't to negate the benefits of good nutrition, but to make people aware of the fact that rigidity in eating isn't necessary for a fit body, nor are "poor" eating habits a guarantee of illness and disease. Maribeth
RE: To gn979
Connie,
Thanks for the extensive "lesson" on mass building. I am 5'6" at 115. Very thin arms and legs w/ a little tummy to get rid of. Concerned mostly with my legs (to build). I am okay with my upper body for now. And the tummy, I think, will have to be put on hold while I concentrate on eating a little more to compensate for the heavy lifting of PS and SH (getting any day now). If I lose a little tummy in the process of weight training, than all the better, but my main focus is increasing size in my legs. You mentioned that you would only do one body part per week. I've been doing 2 days of legs a week. Noticing some slight gains , but need to increase the weight and go lighter on the reps. So thanks, and I welcome all advice. Knowledge is power!!!!!!!!!!
P.S> Any thoughts on Protein Powders. I really feel I need a supplement once daily, Im unable to get my full days worth of protein just from eating alone.
GN
Connie,
Thanks for the extensive "lesson" on mass building. I am 5'6" at 115. Very thin arms and legs w/ a little tummy to get rid of. Concerned mostly with my legs (to build). I am okay with my upper body for now. And the tummy, I think, will have to be put on hold while I concentrate on eating a little more to compensate for the heavy lifting of PS and SH (getting any day now). If I lose a little tummy in the process of weight training, than all the better, but my main focus is increasing size in my legs. You mentioned that you would only do one body part per week. I've been doing 2 days of legs a week. Noticing some slight gains , but need to increase the weight and go lighter on the reps. So thanks, and I welcome all advice. Knowledge is power!!!!!!!!!!
P.S> Any thoughts on Protein Powders. I really feel I need a supplement once daily, Im unable to get my full days worth of protein just from eating alone.
GN