Intensity, Intensity, Intensity?

Soosan

Cathlete
I was thinking about Trevor's post ("My Attempt at Helping Some of You"), and how upping the intensity and shortening the duration of his cardio sessions (i.e., HIIV) has helped him reach quite a few fitness goals.

As you all know, the buzzword these days seems to be "intensity!", but I've read so many posts (including ones from Cathe) that mixing up the intensity and duration of cardio workouts is the most beneficial for long-term fitness and wellness. Remember how high impact aerobics was all the rage in the 80's but then everyone started getting injured? And then low impact took over and that wasn't the answer either? Is the result of this intensity craze going to be the same as the high impact aerobic phase?

It seems to me the answer to almost every situation is one of compromise and that would mean mixing it up intensity-wise. What do you all think?
 
Another buzz word is "Periodization," which is rotating your workouts so that you have higher intensity weeks, followed by lower intensity, recovery weeks.

I think mixing things up is a good idea so that your body doesn't get used to one kind of workout or one way of working out. Also, it would help you reduce risks of overuse injuries and burn-out.
 
I have been a huge cardio junkie for years. As a distance runner it couldn't be helped! Trevor's thread really sunk in. I am 45 and have gotten a bit out of shape due mainly to a running injury. This week I have decided to try HIIT. I did a Nordic Track session yesterday and cannot tell you how good it felt. And only 26 min total! I need to loose some fat and I think my body has gotten used to all the cardio. I am getting no results from long cardio sessions. I figure "what the heck" I'll try this along with easy runs and more weightlifting and see what happens....great thread....:)...Carole
 
Hi Susan,
I keep the intensity up but I do mix up the kinds of cardio equipment I use. The stairmaster is one of my faves and it's low impact. Also I almost exclusively run on grass or dirt, when I do run.
For me, there is no value in going low intensity, unless I am sick or very tired. In those cases I do back off. I am an intensity junkie and going low intensity is just time wasted IMHO. I have a busy daily schedule and I need every second to count towards something productive. But that's me. You DO need to listen to your body. I mix EVERYTHING I do up pretty regularly so I am never bored.
I do not consider the word "intensity" a buzz word. I just believe you have to haul ass in this world to get anywhere in fitness or anything. And for me to say to myself "self, I think I'll just run 6 miles at half-ass pace because I don't feel like working today", is a cop out and it is allowing myself to let a day go by where I didn't accomplish anything. My personality doesn't allow me to go easy on myself unless, like I said, my body is telling me to do so. I want results, and I want them in a hurry, and to get those results I gotta WORK!!
It's just in my blood ladies! LOL! However, if you can keep the intensity up, you will see results, believe me!
Trevor :)
 
I posted this over at the bikini thread, but last week when I did HIIT on the treadmill I was surprised to see how much milage I ran in just 30 minutes. I ran at 8-8.4 mph for 30 seconds and 6 mph for 30 seconds, repeating 30 times...nearly 4 miles! I'm gonna try Trevor's workout (2 minutes on, one off) today and see how far I go!

CinDee
 
Susan, it is true that HIIT is more difficult and some people don't like it because its harder on the joints. What's most important is that you do what feels good and stays enjoyable- I do HIIT because I love pushing myself, but if I hated it I'd stick with long cardio sessions. Mix things up just to avoid a plateau, kind of a way to shock your body after its gotten used to doing the same things (unfortunately our bodies are very smart and adjust like a machine to what we make it do). HTH.
 
Hello, Sooooooooooooosan (if that is your real name) . . .

I personally can't stand to do a workout, particularly a cardio workout, that is underneath my intensity capabilities; it's not energizing or beneficial, only annoying. And personally I don't really like to vary the duration of my workouts; once I've got a good head of steam going I want to keep going.

I agree with Trevor's comment on this thread that a good way to vary things without downing the intensity too much is to vary the impact forces on the body. My way of varying impact is to (natch) do aqua twice a week, both reduced-impact shallow water aqua and zero-impact aqua; that has unbelievable benefits for diminishing joint stress. Also, I do like to take power walks that do not involve both feet ever leaving the ground; thus there is another reduced-impact thing.

By the way, Rocky has some explaining to do: a cute, pert little long-tail who called herself "Fiona" showed up at my doorstep with an even cuter little litter of squirrelets. She mentioned she and Rocky had had . . . well . . . "tangled tails" during a Red Sox rally recently.

A-Jock
 
I agree wholeheartedly with Kathryn here. And with Cathe herself. Constant HIIT could be a fast track to injury in my personal opinion and, what counts for even more, personal experience.

I disagree that you have to always feel like your eyes are popping out of your head with intensity, intensity, intensity for the workout to be doing you any good at all. Some days you want to gun it, some days you don't and some days your body will not comply, whatever your mind's desire may be. Any woman who menstruates will know this for sure: there are days in the month when your energy peaks and days when it takes a nose dive. Fact. So, you are doing yourself a disservice trying to gun it with HIIT when your body will not comply and a bad mood or worse, injury, could be the result of this.

I also disagree with the statement that there is no point in running 6 miles at a slower pace, or doing whatever cardio activity you are embarked on at a slower pace. On the contrary, there is all the point in the world. Any athlete in training, and especially a runner, will tell you that there are days when you take the pace down because your objectives are to increase endurance. The only way to run longer is to do exactly that, and it require running at a slower pace rather than going all out which would tire you within half an hour and leave you with no energy stores to go that 10 or 12 mile distance which you have set up for yourself as your current challenge. You do not have to be a runner for this philosophy of training to make sense for you.

Slower pace does not equal "half-assed." No-one on these boards who decides to vary the intensity of their workouts should be made to feel inadequate by such statements. Not everyone's objective in maintaining a regular exercise programme is body building (high weights, low cardio), and what works for one person, of a particular gender and age, may not work for another.

Nor does everyone work out for weight loss. We all derive enjoyment and benefit from our workouts in different ways. For some IMAX is a delight, for others it is a torture they agree to put themselves through once a week for the sake of improved cardiovascular conditioning. For such people, Rythmic Step, with its lower intensity, is way more fun and beneficial because sometimes you just want to lose yourself in the music, because it peps up your spirit and unlike counting seconds in HIIT (how much longer?.....) you don't have to think about it and therefore exercise can be a stress reliever. Exercise when you can switch the mind off is an incredibly valuable thing for many harried, over-stressed individuals juggling family and work. So, I would never want to take lower intensity workouts out of my exercise programme, never. HIIT has its place, but not every day.

If you love HIIT, good for you. But no-one should be made to feel that it is the only way to train and be healthy.

If you want improved health, great cardiovascular conditioning, to bust stress, have fun, and avoid injury, lower intensity training, along with HIIT, has a place in your fitness programme. As the original poster said: compromise, balance.

Clare
 
Very well put Clare.
Just one observation. If you follow the ever-increasing-intensity philosophy, be it cardio or weights, you (an individual) will eventually come to a point where you can go no faster or no heavier.
 
Hi Clare!
Just note that in my post I said that what I do is for me personally. I just put forth what I do and if people try it and don't like it then that's great.:)
Also I said that for me there is no point running six miles at slow pace. I don't train for endurance. I have other things in my life to do with that time, so I train for intensity. I strive for a muscular, sprinter type body and not longer distance type body. So just make sure we understand that I am talking about me.
For me, the way I train is balanced. I may do 20 mins or 30 mins of the interval type work. And when I do not feel good I will go longer and slower. And I am willing to bet that my workouts are more varied than anyone's in here. I do take time when the weather is good to do mountain biking and inline skating and other activities.
As for injuries, I don't buy it. You can get hurt as easily from logging too much time doing cardio just as easily as you can doing the short bursts of HIIT. Overuse and repetion type injuries to name two.
Anyway, just wanted to defend myself a bit. To each their own, like you said. But just keep in mind again that what I say in my posts is based on my experience and what is good, and getting results, for me. I am not an expert and don't claim to be. But I do have a ton of exercise experience and I do like sharing those with you all here.
Trevor :) :)
 
Well that's the whole point of switching your workouts around my dear. So that you never reach that point. If you keep your body guessing, so that it never adapts, you will never reach a point where you are stuck at a high end and not able to get beyond that point.
One point to keep in mind here is that you DO NOT have to move faster or lift heavier to get your intensity and heart rate higher.
:)
Trevor:)
 
I agree completely Clare. As a runner I know to do distance well you need to build up your endurance with longer, lower intensity runs, and not at all a HIIT workout! I also do not believe the you should be doing HIIT or even HIT everyday. I do believe it is good to mix up your workouts as Trevor pointed out. Until I am ready for marathon training again I thought that adding a few HIIT workouts a week would be good for me. I do believe it will speed up your metabolism.
As far as injury. Some are just more prone to it. I have lifted weights for years as injury prevention, although turning 40 was when I started my injuries! So, could be age too...:)..
I do enjoy reading your posts as you explain things so well. I think for some people struggling with weight loss, they might benefit loosing the last few pounds by adding, slowly a couple if HIIT or HIT workouts a week. You do need to start slow and definitely not go over 20 minutes. I think it might be a good idea too, to invest in a Heart Rate monitor so you know where you are...:)...Carole
 
I think another point that needs to be made here is that intensity means different things to different people, and as has been noted there are many ways to achieve it. The physiological training effect is simple: the body adapts to the demands that are placed on it, and the more fit you get, the more it takes to challenge you both in terms of cardio work and strength work and everything in between.

Interval training is only one method of introducing intensity into any cardio mode. So is modifying an existing move to that it is similar, but more intense: substituting a plyo jack for a couple of jumping jacks; substituting a Power-3 for a 3-knee repeater; substituting a couple of power scissors / explosive lunges for grounded mambos; etc. And you don't need to make intervals out of these upward modifications; you can sprinkle them throughout a workout to simply sustain a higher exertion level in a steady-state manner.

Cross-training in terms of the mode selected is important, and varying the impact forces on the body is also important. But I am a huge believer in continually (gradually, incrementally) working toward upping intensity levels in a standard workout bout to get the most out of the session.

I think a lot of people have this secret dread that they will have to be in a constant state of discomfort if they have to keep trying for high intensity, and in all honesty a tad bit of discomfort is usually going to be present - that's what signifies that you're overloading the system and it's a good thing when it's safely done. But most people have no idea how much they're capable of doing. I personally will spend the rest of my life testing those boundaries, and I have no fear that I'll injure myself in the process.

A-Jock
 
Thanks for all of the interesting responses.

Based on the type of cardio I currently do (hi/lo, step and kickboxing), I still feel that for my LONG-TERM fitness and wellness benefits, varying intensity levels is best. If you can keep up the intensity with minimal impact like A-Jock and Trevor, then that's probably better fitness-wise, if you enjoy it. As I progress, the intensity levels change, but I don't feel that every cardio session needs to be Imax2 Blast Mania or 8 rounds of Bootcamp Cardio Only.:) (Although I do have Imax 2 Blast Mania on the plate for tomorrow. Yikes!)

Oh, and A-Jock, Rocky said that Fiona routinely takes a new litter of squirrels to someone's doorstep and blames him or his friend, Buckingham. His relationship with her ended years ago and he said he'd willingly take a DNA test.
 
I dunno, Sooooooooooooosan. One of the litter was doing some pretty mean squat-thrust-tree-climbers. The squirrel doesn't fall very far from the tree . . .

A-Jock
 
That's probably because Fiona does a pretty mean STTC herself. She used to be Rocky's aerobics instructor, you know. (That's how they met.) Rocky told me that they would often do entwined STTC's, and when they did, he swore he could hear angels singing. Unfortunately, he soon discovered that he wasn't the only one with whom she was doing ESTTC's. It was a rough time for him. I remember it well. He started drinking alcohol made from distilled acorns and didn't exercise for over a year. Then one day we spotted "Squirrel Fitness" in the grocery store. (Not every grocery store carried SF back then, but I live in a rural area.) It literally turned his life back around. We owe a lot to that great magazine. He's now better and fitter than ever and doesn't need Fiona and her lying, cheating ways.
 
Now that you mention it, Fiona did strike me as a bit of a Jezebel. Her tail had a bit too much styling gel.

A-Jock
 
Oh yes....the old ESTTC's in the OOT. Not to mention the ERS's and EABJ's which almost resulted in RSV. Ohhhhh but the best by far were the EHIIT's (which somehow would result in a much larger litter-must be all those intervals....incidently how big was this one??)

Buckingham






OOT - Old oak tree
ERS - entwined rhythmic steps
EABJ's entwined airborn jacks
 

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