I'm 54 years old and so, soooo tired...Zzzzzz

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I'm a healthy 54 year old menopausal woman (on HRT), and I'm sooooo sleepy!! I sleep 7.5 - 8 hours every night, I have no sleep issues (no apnea, no snoring, no snoring partner, no insomnia), and yet every single morning I have to drag my butt out of bed. Even with my morning coffee, my head never seems to lose its brain-fog. My whole day feels like an endurance event until I can finally crawl back into bed at night. I do manage to go to work, get through a day, come home and exercise, have supper, but that's IT. There's no more energy for anything. I've had my thyroid tested a couple of times within the last 3 years and it shows up as being in the normal range. I used to be such a morning person, one of those people who had more done by 6am than most people got done in a day. Now I just aim to meet the bare minimum for keeping life on track. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I'm all ears! Can anyone else relate??
 
It can be more than just thyroid. I just had a lot of blood work done and I found that my Pregnenolone level was very low. This is a steroid hormone that your body makes that helps with other hormone levels. Because of this being low, it has also caused my cortisol level to rise. It is also linked to dhea levels and female specific hormone levels. You may want to get those things checked out as well. I went on a supplements for pregnenolone, 10mg a day for 1 week, then my doctor has me cutting it down after that. I've only been taking it for 4 days and feel so much better. Like you, I slept, but I have been tired all the time. I also found that I was more irritable and the low level causes that too, as well as other symptoms. Now I know I have other health issues going on but I just thought I would let you know my experience and maybe you can talk to your doctor about this. Hope you feel better soon.

 
I agree with others ... there are many possibilities & a full bloodwork panel may help - but you have to ask for it. I had a Vit D deficiency in my 50's that caused me to feel low energy. I now ask for it to be checked every year & it's been fine since I take an extra daily supplement.
 
Thank you for the suggestions, everyone! I do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for mid-March, and I'll bring this up with her.

Outside of medical testing, does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? I'm wondering whether it has to do with my body needing more recovery than it used to from the exertion of exercise. Did that change for you, as you moved into your 50s?
 
I'm a healthy 54 year old menopausal woman (on HRT), and I'm sooooo sleepy!! I sleep 7.5 - 8 hours every night, I have no sleep issues (no apnea, no snoring, no snoring partner, no insomnia), and yet every single morning I have to drag my butt out of bed. Even with my morning coffee, my head never seems to lose its brain-fog. My whole day feels like an endurance event until I can finally crawl back into bed at night. I do manage to go to work, get through a day, come home and exercise, have supper, but that's IT. There's no more energy for anything. I've had my thyroid tested a couple of times within the last 3 years and it shows up as being in the normal range. I used to be such a morning person, one of those people who had more done by 6am than most people got done in a day. Now I just aim to meet the bare minimum for keeping life on track. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I'm all ears! Can anyone else relate??
I can sort of relate. I'm 48 and 11 weeks post op from total abdominal hysterectomy taking everything except my right ovary. I've been dealing with extreme anxiety due to stress in my marriage and over finances. I spent most of last year looking for a job without any success and then found out in August that I needed the surgery and had it done December 11. I was feeling anxious and stressed before my surgery because there was the possibility of cancer and we were trying to raise the necessary funds on a Go Fund Me because I was uninsured. I thought I would feel better after the surgery and for a few weeks in early recovery I did.

Now that I'm back to looking for work, I wake up before my alarm goes off and I feel anxious and jittery. This doesn't seem to happen on weekends. My husband refuses to work and lives off other people's money. I thought we were going to lose our house at the beginning of the year. I became a certified nursing assistant last year and just as I started looking for work, I found out I needed the hysterectomy and it put everything on hold. Now, I don't have anything left in the tank physically or mentally to work at a hospital or assisted living. I'm trying to get back in with a remote call center job and have already gotten two rejections. I have one application in with the company I used to work for and they were a horrible place to work, but I'd rather be stressed working at home than working 12 hour hospital shifts. My exercise has been affected too. Rewind back to summer 2023 and I was absolutely crushing STS2.0. And now I'm doing a workout called PVOLVE, which is more low impact functional fitness that doesn't leave me feeling wiped out. Summer 2023 my energy levels were through the roof but I didn't have anxiety this bad. I've been trying to find work in hopes of leaving my marriage but things are so darned expensive, I'm not sure if I can make enough to make ends meet. Also when and if I do leave, there will be no settlement and I'm afraid that I'll get stuck with half of the federal income tax debt even though its clear in 2018 my husband made a sizeable amount of money and I was making part time income that bought gas and groceries. The mortgage is a owner finance and I'm not on the mortgage but we're upside down on the house. There are no savings (except my secret bank accounts), no assets, no retirement accounts, investments, nothing. And to add to it, a few weeks ago I took my car in for an oil change expecting to pay $60 and maybe a little more for some oil leaks and walked out needed $4,700 in repairs. I haven't used credit for anything in over 2 years after interest rates were being raised and was so proud that my debt was slowly being chipped away at and my credit score was going up and one car problem wiped out all my progress.

My husband is expecting to get some money for helping a friend refinance his house and I'm waiting to see if the anxiety gets better because he says I can see a therapist once we get the money and I'm also thinking of getting my thyroid checked too as well as cortisol levels. My blood pressure and pulse rate have been elevated too.

You mentioned your're on HRT. Do you use progesterone in addition to estrogen therapy? I've been using natural progesterone cream since 2021 because I kept thinking it would help the cyst on my left ovary go away (it didn't because the cyst was a mucinous cystadenofibroma and surgery was the only answer) but in the Dr. Lee book, what you Doctor may not tell you about menopause, it talks about the benefits of natural progesterone supplementation. I hope you can get some answers and get your groove back. I hope so too for me because I used to be able to get up at 5 AM, workout, walk my dog and be ready for my day and now I'm doing good to make it through a early morning workout and not even be working yet.
 
I'm a healthy 54 year old menopausal woman (on HRT), and I'm sooooo sleepy!! I sleep 7.5 - 8 hours every night, I have no sleep issues (no apnea, no snoring, no snoring partner, no insomnia), and yet every single morning I have to drag my butt out of bed. Even with my morning coffee, my head never seems to lose its brain-fog. My whole day feels like an endurance event until I can finally crawl back into bed at night. I do manage to go to work, get through a day, come home and exercise, have supper, but that's IT. There's no more energy for anything. I've had my thyroid tested a couple of times within the last 3 years and it shows up as being in the normal range. I used to be such a morning person, one of those people who had more done by 6am than most people got done in a day. Now I just aim to meet the bare minimum for keeping life on track. If anyone has any suggestions for me, I'm all ears! Can anyone else relate??
I agree with the recommendation for labs to assess possible causes. I had a similar situation when I was in my late 40s. I remember being in the car driving to work and the only thing I could think about was being able to finish the day and get to bed.

I was vegan at the time and it turned out that I needed more Taurine, which is commonly low in vegans. Supplementing a small amount made all the difference. In the end veganism wasn’t appropriate for my nutrition needs but my point is that everything changes when you find the right reason for your fatigue and treat it. I hope you find that reason quickly.
 
Thank you for the suggestions, everyone! I do have a doctor's appointment scheduled for mid-March, and I'll bring this up with her.

Outside of medical testing, does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? I'm wondering whether it has to do with my body needing more recovery than it used to from the exertion of exercise. Did that change for you, as you moved into your 50s?
If you think you may be over-training (symptoms can be similar), then it's probably time to take a recovery week & rest. It could be a complete rest from all workouts, or do comfortable walks, or zone 2 cardio, mobility work, yoga/stretch, etc. LMR could be perfect for this too. I found with the original STS, that the week recovery between each Meso actually provided renewed energy & focus with no loss in my fitness.
 
I can sort of relate. I'm 48 and 11 weeks post op from total abdominal hysterectomy taking everything except my right ovary. I've been dealing with extreme anxiety due to stress in my marriage and over finances. I spent most of last year looking for a job without any success and then found out in August that I needed the surgery and had it done December 11. I was feeling anxious and stressed before my surgery because there was the possibility of cancer and we were trying to raise the necessary funds on a Go Fund Me because I was uninsured. I thought I would feel better after the surgery and for a few weeks in early recovery I did.

Now that I'm back to looking for work, I wake up before my alarm goes off and I feel anxious and jittery. This doesn't seem to happen on weekends. My husband refuses to work and lives off other people's money. I thought we were going to lose our house at the beginning of the year. I became a certified nursing assistant last year and just as I started looking for work, I found out I needed the hysterectomy and it put everything on hold. Now, I don't have anything left in the tank physically or mentally to work at a hospital or assisted living. I'm trying to get back in with a remote call center job and have already gotten two rejections. I have one application in with the company I used to work for and they were a horrible place to work, but I'd rather be stressed working at home than working 12 hour hospital shifts. My exercise has been affected too. Rewind back to summer 2023 and I was absolutely crushing STS2.0. And now I'm doing a workout called PVOLVE, which is more low impact functional fitness that doesn't leave me feeling wiped out. Summer 2023 my energy levels were through the roof but I didn't have anxiety this bad. I've been trying to find work in hopes of leaving my marriage but things are so darned expensive, I'm not sure if I can make enough to make ends meet. Also when and if I do leave, there will be no settlement and I'm afraid that I'll get stuck with half of the federal income tax debt even though its clear in 2018 my husband made a sizeable amount of money and I was making part time income that bought gas and groceries. The mortgage is a owner finance and I'm not on the mortgage but we're upside down on the house. There are no savings (except my secret bank accounts), no assets, no retirement accounts, investments, nothing. And to add to it, a few weeks ago I took my car in for an oil change expecting to pay $60 and maybe a little more for some oil leaks and walked out needed $4,700 in repairs. I haven't used credit for anything in over 2 years after interest rates were being raised and was so proud that my debt was slowly being chipped away at and my credit score was going up and one car problem wiped out all my progress.

My husband is expecting to get some money for helping a friend refinance his house and I'm waiting to see if the anxiety gets better because he says I can see a therapist once we get the money and I'm also thinking of getting my thyroid checked too as well as cortisol levels. My blood pressure and pulse rate have been elevated too.

You mentioned your're on HRT. Do you use progesterone in addition to estrogen therapy? I've been using natural progesterone cream since 2021 because I kept thinking it would help the cyst on my left ovary go away (it didn't because the cyst was a mucinous cystadenofibroma and surgery was the only answer) but in the Dr. Lee book, what you Doctor may not tell you about menopause, it talks about the benefits of natural progesterone supplementation. I hope you can get some answers and get your groove back. I hope so too for me because I used to be able to get up at 5 AM, workout, walk my dog and be ready for my day and now I'm doing good to make it through a early morning workout and not even be working yet.
Oh my goodness, you are going through it, Ashaw! You have an inordinate amount of stress to manage! Do you have social support? Family? Friends? I hope you're not managing this on your own! I don't have one-tenth of the stress in my life that you're coping with. I'm so sorry :-( Your mind and body are being taxed to the limit.

10 years ago I had the same surgery you've just had: full hysterectomy due to a uterus full of fibroids, and a growing cyst in my left ovary. I have only my right ovary left, which continued to produce the hormones I needed until a couple of years ago. I'm on both estrogen and progesterone. Because of the fibroids I lost large amounts of blood every month, which made me anemic. So, I know "tired", and this time it's different. I'm not physically tired, as much as sleepy, dull-headed, unmotivated.

I hope you can make inroads on some of these problems. Best of luck to you!
 
I agree with the recommendation for labs to assess possible causes. I had a similar situation when I was in my late 40s. I remember being in the car driving to work and the only thing I could think about was being able to finish the day and get to bed.

I was vegan at the time and it turned out that I needed more Taurine, which is commonly low in vegans. Supplementing a small amount made all the difference. In the end veganism wasn’t appropriate for my nutrition needs but my point is that everything changes when you find the right reason for your fatigue and treat it. I hope you find that reason quickly.
I completely agree! Thank you for sharing that! I was vegan many years ago, and my energy quickly bottomed out, too. It's experiences like that that taught me to pay attention to noticeable changes in energy, especially when you're doing everything "right." Sometimes "right" doesn't mean "right for me."
 
If you think you may be over-training (symptoms can be similar), then it's probably time to take a recovery week & rest. It could be a complete rest from all workouts, or do comfortable walks, or zone 2 cardio, mobility work, yoga/stretch, etc. LMR could be perfect for this too. I found with the original STS, that the week recovery between each Meso actually provided renewed energy & focus with no loss in my fitness.
<Sigh> You could be very right. Compared to how I used to exercise, what I'm doing now seems a long way off from overtraining. But perhaps the overtraining threshold gets lower, as we get older. I'm half-way through Cathe's 8-week LMR/STS2 rotation, and loving it. Resistance training is my wheel-house, and I've been in love with STS2 since it was first released. Before that, I'd done at least one round of the original STS per year, since it was released, plus all of her advanced cardio workouts. Compared to that, an LMR/STS2 rotation seems so manageable!
 
<Sigh> You could be very right. Compared to how I used to exercise, what I'm doing now seems a long way off from overtraining. But perhaps the overtraining threshold gets lower, as we get older. I'm half-way through Cathe's 8-week LMR/STS2 rotation, and loving it. Resistance training is my wheel-house, and I've been in love with STS2 since it was first released. Before that, I'd done at least one round of the original STS per year, since it was released, plus all of her advanced cardio workouts. Compared to that, an LMR/STS2 rotation seems so manageable!
This article was part of Cathe's newsletter in early Feb:

To break the cycle of exercise burnout, recovery is just what the body ordered​

Do you work out every day? Do you sometimes feel that a workout isn’t worth doing unless you really “feel” it? Do you ever find yourself pushing through a workout because you think you should, but your heart really isn’t in it?

Exercise burnout is a real thing and unfortunately, for many fitness minded individuals, it can be a bit of a taboo subject. It could be that we don’t realize that our bodies and minds are begging for a break. It could be that we just can’t break the cycle of feeling like we need to work out every day to make it count. When we get in this mindset it’s easy to convince ourselves that a day of doing nothing but relaxing, reading, watching tv, or doing whatever else brings calm to our soul, is a waste of time and energy. The truth of the matter is that we need to learn to create better balance between our workouts and our recovery.

Exercise burnout can happen at any age, whether you’re 25 and hitting the weight room too many days in a row, or 65 and feeling like you should still be keeping up at a pace that you’ve always kept. We tend to ignore the many small, and sometimes big, signs that our bodies give us to let us know that it’s time to pull back and make a change. The symptoms are many and are varied from difficulty sleeping, increased anxiety, appetite changes, mood changes, soreness, injury, and many things in-between. We need to listen to our bodies when things seem out of sorts and give ourselves time to rest, recover, and re-focus.

So, let’s talk about recovery. To break the cycle of exercise burnout, recovery is just what the body ordered. Recovery can look very different from person to person. Some may want a full day of absolutely nothing but lounging and binge watching a favorite show. Others may prefer recovery activities like a light walk, yoga, mobility, foam rolling or stretching. For some it’s a mix of both things. Whatever the key is to your recovery, you owe it to your body and your mind to find it and make it a regular part of your routine.
 

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