If I was Cathe.......

This is the FIRST time that SNM will be producing the DVD's in an all-new format. It will offer many, many more workouts then her previous DVD's. Also, from the very beginning, there has never been a set-in-stone date when they will be delivered. They say right from the beginning that this it their HOPES to have them ready by a certain time but can't promise. I guess the thing that confuses me is why people pre-order when they have a choice to wait???
Your-Friend-In-Fitness, DebbieH http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/wavey.gif[/img] If You Get The Choice To Sit It Out Or Dance...I Hope You DANCE!!!
 
About spam

>Considering the amount of spam that I receive on a daily
>basis, I have quit checking my email. So I vist the forum for
>information, NOT EMAIL. I will check my email when I need that
>viagra prescription.
>
>Hard to please everybody, isn't it?
>
>Lisa

Hi Lisa :) (and anyone else having trouble with spam mail)
I just wanted to post to say that there are plenty of things you can do to avoid getting spam. A spam filter is a good start, your ISP (or whoever provides you with e-mail) can also help (all mail providers have a spam reporting facility/address. Spam is a pain in the a** and it's difficult to stop it entirely. If your e-mail address has been targeted by a dictionary attack (where they find a domain, like say @cathe.com and then make up lots of names e.g. [email protected], [email protected] and send out tons of messages. When they find valid e-mail addresses, some spammers keep on sending more and more spam. This happened to me 2 years ago on an e-mail address I never give to anyone so I was very dismayed. A lot of people set up separate e-mail addresses for differents things: I use one for forums, a different one for ordering, a different one for work (I work at home and in the office), another one for friends and family and another one for my SO to write to. It's quite easy to set up your e-mail program to put mail from different people into different folders in your Inbox. I've set mine up to dump spam straight into the deleted items bin. If it's not sent directly to me and it's not from anyone I know, or do business with, it goes in the bin. I always check before I empty the bin (just in case) and it works very well.

If you use Microsoft Outlook for mail, there's some good advice on spam prevention and how to deal with a spam problem here:
-- http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/preview.aspx?AssetID=HA010701261033&CTT=98
-- http://office.microsoft.com/assista...ID=HP052429671033&CTT=3&Origin=HA010701261033
-- http://office.microsoft.com/assista...ID=HA010347791033&CTT=3&Origin=HA010701261033
-- http://office.microsoft.com/assista...ID=CH010423421033&CTT=4&Origin=CH010390440000

If you use Hotmail, there's a good FAQ here: http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/ua_info.asp

If you use Outlook Express, try the support centre: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?ID=FH;EN-US;oex

If you use a Mac and are using .Mail, there's a helpful article on setting up mail filters here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=135114

If you use Entourage (the nicer Mac version of Outlook), this page has some good information: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/produc...LIBRARY/feature_articles/officex/en_rules.xml

Whatever program you use to send and get your e-mail, some, if not all, of what you need will be in the help file included with your program. If you're using a PC or a Mac, there's usually a "help" menu at the top of the window.

It's actually very easy to send bulk mail to people whether you're an individual, a reputable company like SNM or a disreputable spammer.

Edited to add that your ISP/mail provider will have specific rules on how many people you can e-mail at anyone time (per message), some may be as low as 10, whereas others may allow you to send a message to 100 recipients or more. If you need to send a mail to a lot of people, always check first. Likewise if you need to send a lot of messages in a short time, wait a little bit between sending. Sometimes the increase in activity may alert your ISP who might think your account has been hijacked by a spammer, a virus or that you yourself have started a spamming campaign. Lastly, always, *always* keep your antivirus programme up to date. If you have broadband, get a firewall and look for one that lets you block unauthorised outgoing connections as well as incoming connection attempts.
ATB,
- Lisa :)
Edited for spelling ;)
 
>Thank you, Lisa! Also, you may be inadvertantly subscribing
>to email so whenever you vistit a website that wants your
>email address. Uncheck the subscription boxes you don't
>want. I did this and it has cut down my span alot!
>Bobbi


Hi Bobbi,
You're very welcome :) That's very, very good advice and it will do a lot to prevent getting spam in the first place. These days, e-mail programmes are very easy to set up to help you deal with a spam problem (if you have one) and most ISPs have filters in place to stop spam from reaching you in the first place (some are better than others of course and if your ISP doesn't take spam reporting seriously, find a better one!) Likewise, if your e-mail programme is difficult to use, try a different one. Another good tip would be to switch off the preview pane so you don't have to see the content of a message unless you double-click to open and read it. (usually found on the View menu just click on Preview Pane to switch it on or off) If your e-mail address has been targeted and you've done all you can to deal with the spam with no success, change it or get a new one. I've had to do it and as much as I hated to lose that address, it was much better than getting 100+ spam (some were very offensive) messages every other hour.
ATB,
- Lisa :)
 
We have DSL through qwest.net and AOL as a bring your own acess because my kids like it. I have my personal email and Cathe email notifications coming to qwest and most of the span hits AOL so it's a matter of selecting all of it and deleting en masse. I want to know who the person is who thinks I have a certain male appendage and want to enlarge it. I can't seem to get away from that guy! LOL! Sometimes, I spend time unsubcribing from unwanted sites which have unsubscribe links in their emails. Mine s pretty clean these days!
Bobbi http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/nosmile/peacesign.gif
http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/person/smilejap.gif
 
This is not only to Bobbi, but to everyone who hits those "unsubscribe" links at the bottom of spam. DON'T!!!! Spammers will use that to test whether or not they have a "live" address, and your doing that will result in yet more spam! On AOL click the "report spam" button and then delete the message without responding to it. Same with Yahoo - there's a link at the top of the message for "This is Spam". On Hotmail you can simply block the address. But DON'T RESPOND TO THEM!! It's usually not truly an "unsubscribe" link. You didn't subscribe. They use that to see if they have a real address. Also, I know you all know this, but just as a reminder, NEVER fill in a screen name or password or credit card info on a screen if you're trying to unsubscribe from something in an email. Spammers use all sorts of tricks to collect this personal info from you, even making sites that look like the "real" one you think you've received the email from! I once got an email from what looked like an AOL-sponsored site - Flowers.com (back when we had AOL), and it said a dozen roses had been charged to my AOL account. Well ... I knew I hadn't done it, and no one else uses my computer, and when I clicked on the link, it asked for my AOL screen name and password to "authorize" cancelling the transaction!! I didn't of course, and I forwarded the email to AOL. But recently I read on the WW message board where a bunch of people got scammed by something that looked as though it came from eBay. They will use all sorts of tricks to collect info, and you have to very careful.

Don't mean to go on here and preach, but I just wanted to let all of you know about this. Hope it helps!

Carol
:)
 
Why pre-order anyway? Just wait for the video clips to come out on this site and order then. I never have really understood why anyone would pre-order something sight unseen.

My husband says pre-ordering gives them the necessary capital they need to start the production process. But they are using your money and you are not getting anything in return. So back to my original question, why pre-order anyway??


Madonna
 
>This is not only to Bobbi, but to everyone who hits those
>"unsubscribe" links at the bottom of spam. DON'T!!!!
>Spammers will use that to test whether or not they have a
>"live" address, and your doing that will result in yet more
>spam!

Carol that's great advice but I just wanted to add the caveat that this doesn't apply to a reputable company like Amazon, Barnes & Noble and SNM, for example, who also have unsubscribe links. I also wanted to add that no reputable company will ever ask you for your password or your bank details. If your credit card is due to expire, you will very probably receieve an e-mail asking you to go to the site and update your information. If you're at all unsure if even this e-mail is genuine, then don't use the link in the e-mail, go to the Web site as you would normally do and edit your account details there.

So many people fall victim to fraud, to spam and to viruses. As we become more aware, they become more sophisticated and I don't think it's possible to repeat this kind of advice too much. I do think it's inexcuseable to go online without an up-to-date anti-virus programme (so many viruses these days use your computer to spam other people) even if you're on dial-up.

Bottom line:
-- Don't open spam mail let alone reply.
-- Make use of your ISPs spam and offensive e-mail reporting system.
-- If you're ISP doesn't take spam seriously, they're not good enough and there are plenty of others that do.
-- If you use an e-mail programme that automaticially opens a message when you forward it (this is usually what you need to do when you report it to your ISP), make sure your anti-virus is up-to-date and enabled FIRST.
-- Keep your anti-virus up to date. Yes even if you are on dial-up and even if you're on a Mac. No excuse is good enough.
-- Never, ever give out your credit card/bank details or password to anyone you don't trust and NEVER use e-mail to send this information even to someone you do trust.
-- Only give your e-mail address out to the people and companies you really want to hear from.
-- That Unsubscribe link is genuine only if the company is genuine. When it comes to spam, that Unsubscribe link doubles as a "Hello! I'm right here and I'd love to have more spam from you" ... Don't touch that one! :)
-- Don't forget to tick that box that says you do NOT want to hear from other companies that they think you might be interested in and always read that small print!
ATB,
- Lisa :) (who used to write this sort of stuff for a living :) )
 
The workouts are worth the wait. I don't mind waiting cuz I have all the other Cathe workouts to do in the mean time. As far as the preordering providing captial to fund the production I am happy to do that - these workouts have been one of my best investments. These workouts give me the mental alertness, enery, strength and confidence to operate my accounting practice. I have not done the actual math but I do believe the savings on preordering is more than you would earn as a return on investing the money.

JoJo
 
I agree Bobbi. The only reason I didn't pre-order my videos is I simply didn't have the money at the time, but when she puts out the next round of workouts, I will probably try and pre-order. Once you know a company or a person like Cathe is reputable and you know you'll be getting a high quality product, there's no reason not to pre-order. I wouldn't do it if I didn't know and trust Cathe and SNM.

Carol
:)
 
That's true Lisa, but I just sort of assumed people would know if the "unsubscribe" link came from a company with which they had once done business, it wouldn't be the same kind of spam as others out there, but thanks for pointing it out just the same. :)

Speaking of emails and "spam", I've had 34 emails from this forum alone already today, and all but four of them were links to topics on this forum to which I had "subscribed" - LOL!! There certainly is a lot of activity over here today, and it seems to be heavily concentrated on two threads! Maybe it's time I visited the user menu on here and did a little "unsubscribing" ... LOL!! }(

Carol
:)
 
Hehe Carol I know what you mean re. the volume of e-mails from this forum ;)

As this family's on-call 24/7, tech supporter, I've learned that it pays to be exacting when it comes to technical information. There's still a lot of people out there (even some who have been using computers for years) who still think you mean that they should close their windows when you tell them to close the window (of the programme they're using)... LOL we all have to start somewhere and there's a funny site full of funny stories here: www.techtales.com A few of my friends work in tech support and a lot of what's on this site has happened to them too.
ATB,
- Lisa :)
 
Thanks, Lisa! I'll have to check out that site! Now I know who to ask when I have tech questions!! :D

Carol
:)
 
Hi Everyone-
I am a frequent reader of this forum and an occasional poster.
This is a really nice forum with some really knowledgable folks. I 've recently however, been surprised at the lack of confidence some of Cathe's fan base has in her ability to answer questions directed to her personally or to SNM as a company regarding frustration over the timing of the BB series.
Often, when an issue is raised on the "Ask Cathe" forum, someone besides Cathe jumps in to defend her or give the person asking a question a verbal "slap on the hand" for not being polite enough or posing the question in the right way.
I have never seen Cathe handle any situation with less than the utmost grace and professionalism. If someone wants to express their frustration in a way that is polite or even rude--I'm confident Cathe will handle it in a way she sees fit. We are all confident that Cathe puts out the best workouts available and sets the standard in the fitness industry. Why not extend that confidence to her ability to manage complaints, criticism, rudeness or whatever else comes her way. The way I see it, she does a pretty good job of it on her own.


I'd post this on one of the threads in the "Ask Cathe" forum, but I'm not comfortable posting anything there unless it's a question directly to her.

Have a nice night.:)
Janet
 
>The workouts are worth the wait. I don't mind waiting cuz I
>have all the other Cathe workouts to do in the mean time. As
>far as the preordering providing captial to fund the
>production I am happy to do that - these workouts have been
>one of my best investments. These workouts give me the mental
>alertness, enery, strength and confidence to operate my
>accounting practice. I have not done the actual math but I do
>believe the savings on preordering is more than you would earn
>as a return on investing the money.
>
>JoJo


I agree! I bought all 4 DVDs for $130. The same 4 DVDs now go for $199. I appreciate the generous discount for these workouts and won't hesitate to preorder again in the future.

As far as time frame goes, I received my IS preorder on January 29, 2003 (I came across my shipping invoice the other day). Cathe filmed both IS and BB around the same time of year (a year apart, of course). With all the extra's they have added on the BB DVDs as compared to the IS, I have to say SNM is ahead of where we were with IS.
 
Robyn
I guess it is all in the perception as to who went on the attack. Right? I find this latest post of yours to be quite hurtful and very arrogant, but I guess that is just my perception. "ugh" to quote you!
 
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