husband's mess

Clare,
Way to go girl. You instigate people with subtle digs and then bail out with a "holier than thou" post. Bravo!!!
And I am proud of standing up to that kind of crap. Now go pick up your hubby's underwear will ya?
 
Trevor, why oh why oh why do you feel the need to reply to threads in this manner? For what good will it do? To make yourself appear bigger? Does it? You comments are often cutting, rude and of no real use. This thread is about Husbands mess not a personal attack on Clare. And frankly i'm getting tired of it.
 
Wayne, my question to you is, why can't you see the forest for the trees? Clare's post to Trevor is the one that did no good. She came on here and deliberately planted an insult. Her post was not about any husband's mess. It was a direct attack on Trevor. Obviously you can read, so go back and read it! Then tell me it wasn't a direct insult that had nothing to do with anyone's husband's mess. If you can tell me her post where she talked about two year olds throwing things about in tantrums like Trevor's post is NOT a direct insult, then I'd say you have problems reading.

I answered her post the way I did because I felt it was time for her to let this go. Her post was juvenile and served no purpose other than to insult someone. I realize she's your friend, but that doesn't excuse or justify direct attacks on here.

As for Trevor, he can speak for himself and I'll let him do that. He doesn't need someone to stand up for him. You posted just the other day that you were tired of people jumping onto a thread and butting in when it had nothing to do with them. Isn't that what you just did? Amazing. There are quite a few people on here who think they can insult folks simply for the sake of insulting, and then when they're called on it, they balk. You know what that is? It's immature. It's not adult behavior. I'm tired of that! There's a difference between debating something or offering opinions, and attacking those that are different than your own, and Clare consistently does this. You may be tired of Trevor's posts, but I think you need to look at the big picture here. Clare has just as much responsibility here as anyone. Her post was unnecesary and rude, and she should apologize to Trevor for it. She probably won't, but IMHO she should.

I'm done with this. This is silly and stupid. I feel like I'm on the playground in second grade, and the bullies are out. Ridiculous.

Carol
 
I’m sorry Carol, but my post was directed at Trevor, not you. Seems it is you that cannot read.

I have to ask this. You and Trevor (to me) seem to be the only two on this board that get “nasty” and “bitchy” with your rebound comments. Why is that? Surely lessons should be learnt? If it really is so ridculous then why respond? To buy it is to feed it Carol.

As my original post was directed towards Trevor, I assume you’ll give me the curiosity of allowing “him” (Trevor) to respond.
 
What would make me proud, Clare, would be if you would take responsibility for the insults you write, instead of coming back with that nauseating holier than thou attitude. I say nauseating because that's how it makes me feel when adults do that. You insulted Trevor simply for the sake of insulting him. Nothing more. Your post had no merit, and had nothing to do with the topic of the thread. You were called on it, and instead of taking responsibility for what you wrote, you came back with the superior attitude post. Make yourself proud. Act like an adult and take responsibility for your own words.

Wayne thinks my comments are nasty and bitchy. Well, maybe some of them are, but at least I take responsibility for them. That's what adults do.

I really think I've said all I need to say about this, don't you? This thread has certainly run it's course and then some. Thanks for the insight. I appreciate it.

Carol
 
You are absolutely right. I did jump in on your post and it was not directed at me. I do respectfully disagree with you though that Trevor and I are the ONLY ones on here whose comments can run toward the nasty and the bitchy. There are quite a few people on here who can be quite nasty and bitchy, and I'm sure you know that. We both can read. I won't post to you anymore Wayne. It's obvious we will never see eye to eye. Thanks for the insight. You'll find I do take responsibility for my own words, but when I feel I am right, I will defend my position. In this instance, I feel Clare's post was insulting and without merit, but that's an issue she herself has to take responsibility for. Not me, not you, and not Trevor.

Carol
 
People don’t have to see eye to eye on everything. What a dull world it would be. But what I think does like in this world, is the ability to have your say, and then, once advice has been given to be perfectly indifferent as to if that advice is taken or not, and not trying to insist on setting someone straight (I think I read that?).

I do find Trevor to be extremely rude (just look at my thread about 3lb hand weights). Comments like that are uncalled for and unnecessary. What good do they do? You are more than welcome to contribute to anything that I write on this thread, comments are always appreciated, but bithcy, nasty comments off topic aren’t. That doesn’t just include you, that includes everyone. I myself have said a few things once or twice I regret, and I’m aware of that and have done my best to not repeat past mistakes.

As far as I’m aware (from previous posts he’s written) Trevor doesn’t even use Cathe workouts (he goes to the gym) so why he posts threads on Cathe’s website is beyond me? But hey, it is free and people should do as they choose.

Clare is my friend and I respect her and her posts. If I don’t see eye to eye with her, that doesn’t mean I have to trash her or make shitty comments or snide remakes to try and make my point. I just let it be.
 
Wayne....

when someone plants subtle personal digs at me in a post, I defend myself. There are two, perhaps 3, people in this forum that like to use this method of subtle "shot taking". The difference with me is I am right to the point with my shots, if I need to be. If you go to the top and read this entire thread you'll see where it started. I gave my "opinion" about the subject, that being that I view it as immature when people leave stuff lying around. In my case, it's a safety issue. My opinion! OK? Then, Clare has to post a subtle dig in which basically she called me a two year old. Go read it for yourself. I am not going to argue with you. Just read it and comprehend it ok?
T.
 
Wayne, I work Cathe's IMAX tapes in and out of my cardio mix and mix that up with my gym workouts. I continue to do so. Anyone who knows me knows I continually mix up my workouts to keep them fresh. I don't do Cathe exclusively, as alot of people do, but I don't think that's relevent anyway.
T.
 
Clare,

I'm with you on this. What is normal or best anyway?

It used to drive me crazy that my husband has a problem with closing drawers and not putting things away. I just don't get it cause I like things to look neat and tidy. But it drives him crazy that I'm not a neat toothpaste squeezer.

I just re-frame my thoughts about the things that drive me crazy. No, he doesn't always close drawers but if I need anything, anything, he does it for me with no question. If anything needs repairing, he fixes it with no complaints. He's just been a fabulous partner in every other way.

So, now we have our very own tubes of toothpaste and if a drawer is open, I simply close it.

We all have our little quirks. That's one of the things that makes life so interesting!
 
Wayne, thanks for reminding me I am free to post, but I already know that. I meant I think we should simply stop posting to each other about this subject. It's dead already, okay? And, I also meant we would never see eye to eye on this particular subject. My post wasn't clear.

If hoping someone will own up to what they said on a public message board and take adult responsibility for their words is trying to set someone straight, then guilty I stand. I would be held accountable on here for some snide remark I made - and have been many, many times - so why are others not held to the same standards? We all have to be held to the same standards.

Lots of people post here and they don't do Cathe's workouts, or do them exclusively. Trevor certainly isn't the only one. It's a public message board. Anyone can post. Or lurk. And they do. There are over 4,000 registered members, and there are only about 30 of us that post regularly, if even that many. You really do have a problem with Trevor, don't you? Well, that's between you and him. Not me. I don't find his posts rude at all. He's blunt and honest. I appreciate his directness much more than I appreciate the people on here who can't handle opinions which differ from their own, or those that try to word their posts so they please everyone. That's not reality. You can't please everyone all the time. You never will, no matter how hard you try. It's just human nature.

I really think I've said all I need to say on this. Thanks.

Carol
 
>Clare, I don't think you understand compromise differently
>from all of us, (although, as usual, you articulate it
>better). Seems to me like Cheryl, Dani and Erica agree with
>your concept, and for the record, so do I! IMHO, no marriage
>and no family can work without compromise and LOTS of mutual
>respect. Thanks for describing the concept so well! :)
>-Nancy

Well said Nancy! I do agree with Clare's post.

:)
 
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