How bizarre is this? Replacement DVDs

SNM -
what about those of us whose original DVDs had no problem, and now they're freezing in different places than where the layering change is? I am not understanding how after all the work you and Sony did on the replacements, some of us are having freeze problems where there were not any on the originals.
 
You're suppose to have a brief freeze where there is a layer change. Not having this happen is abnormal. On the original DVD's we had a very unusual event happen called a layer flag error. In layman terms this means that your player is looking for a point on the disc that has been marked as the layer change point. What happens when your player does not see this layer change point flag or there is a problem with how this point has been set depends on the programming of your player. All players are required to follow and meet the international DVD standards consortium rules. These rules define exactly where a layer change must be on a disc and how the layer change point must be set. In our case the flag was either not set properly or there was some violation of the DVD standards rules concerning layer flags. Since the original disc did not follow the required rules there are problems with many players. On many and perhaps most players you will not have any problems while on other players the disc will stop playing. Your results will depend on your players programming and firmware. One of the benefits of the layer flag error on many players is you will not see the layer change point at all. This would be a great discovery on our part and a great new way of authoring a DVD if were not for the fact that on many players the disc can not be played at all.

So why do you see the layer change point on the new DVD’s and not your originals? I certainly can’t say for sure nor do I suspect anyone can. I can only guess that since the layer change point flag was not properly set that your players default programming takes over. Since DVD standards only tell manufactures how to read a properly set layer change point and not what to do when it is not set properly it is hard to say what a player does in this case. Obviously in some cases it says it does not like this problem and is not going to allow you to watch the disc any further. In other cases I guess it decides that since the layer flag has violated a rule it will determine where the layer break is going to be and sets the point at some arbitrary point. If this point happens to be a fade to black transition you will not see the layer change just like you don’t see them in LIC,B&G and Cardio Fusion.

If it were possible to make a dual DVD disc without a layer break we certainly would do it. Not having a layer break violates DVD standards and you see the result that has occurred.

We realize that many customers just don’t understand layer breaks and think they are defects. This is one reason we got away from dual layered discs. But for having just a 1 second freeze on a DVD with up to 14,000 seconds of information, the benefits of dual layered disc far outweigh the drawbacks. Options like music louder, bonus footage and the outstanding clarity you see in our DVDs could not exist in many cases on a single layer disc. The 1 second freeze you see is really not going to affect your workout in anyway. And best of all nowadays if you find that 1 second freeze to be just unbearable you can purchase a DVD player that can play any dual layered disc with seamless layer changes and you will never be bothered again.

If you would like you would like to learn more about DVD’s, the good, the bad and the ugly we strongly suggest you read the FAQ at www.dvdreview.com Here is a direct link: http://www.dvdreview.com/faq/dvdfaq.shtml

:)
 
>And best of all
>nowadays if you find that 1 second freeze to be just
>unbearable you can purchase a DVD player that can play any
>dual layered disc with seamless layer changes and you will
>never be bothered again.

SnM, how do we know if our DVD players do this? Thank you.
 
SNM,
thanks for your detailed explanation. However, perhaps I didn't explain the problem very well in my above post. My LIC froze at a point that I do not believe is supposed to be the layer break -it was in the middle of the 1st cardio segment, during the blast, specifically, at 19:56. I didnt think that the layer breaks were suppposed to be at an intense part of the workout, but rather, during a "mini-break" after one segment, and before another. (i.e. in your above post - LIC layer break is at the start of cardio #3). mine is freezing DURING the blast in cardio #1.

I certainly don't have a single problem with the fade to black transitions, but the freeze actually stops the workout (no music, no sound, nothing) then picks up about 5 seconds later.
Thanks for your help.
 
SNM, i got my new replacements and on cardio fusion after stretch it freezes and goes to the second workout, i have to rewind, the rest of the dvd is fine, i didnt do my sec. replacment yet maybe tomorrow but this is really a pain. but its only in the beginning

gail smith
 
I'm having trouble understanding what you're saying. The stretch is at the end of the workout, not the begining? There is no other workout after the stretch?
 
the beginning work fine, what i mean putting the leg on the bench bringing the arms down swaying streathing the back of the leg, then it stops, and jumps to the second workout i have to rewind to do the first
 
SNM, I am not one to complain but I am experiencing all the difficulties that everyone else is! These disks truely seem worse! You indeed do have issues with your company that is putting Cathe videos on these dvds. Why did I not have any issues with any previous disks of Cathe? Sometimes technological advances are not so! Please go back to the "old" method of making dvds. It may be "outdated" but at least it works!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm still not sure I understand you correctly. There is only one workout on Cardio Fusion which is made from three different workouts. Do you mean the warm up is not playing to the end of that segement? Can you give me a timecode where you are seeing the problem? I'm not sure if you have a problem or are confused because Cardi Fusion is made from different workouts, thus each segment may have a completely different look.
 
I think she's saying the workout skips to the second section during the hamstring stretches after the warmup. At least that is the way it reads to me.

I got my replacements today. (finally!) You don't want the paper sleeves back, right? :)
 
Ok, i try the dvd twice this am, and its fine, dont know what happen but it did the first workout and froze and jumped to the third, but its fine now, as a matter of fact both dvd's are fine
thanks

gail
 
Glad things worked out. A DVD player is really a mini computer. A lot of times you just need to power it off and turn it back on much like rebooting a computer.
 
Uh oh - I sent the defective DVDs back in the sleeves. I just couldn't bring myself to stack them up and stick them in the envelope to get scratched up in the mail. Cathe workouts are too sacred to scratch - even knowing that you guys will probably just destroy them.

I think I've gone from being a Catheite to having Catheitis. The calendar is also affecting me in a weirdly magical way. I am diligently following a rotation (Jan. 07) for the first time EVER because I look forward to the reward - a sticker on the day of each workout. :+

I'm definitely infected with the Cathe (and Co.!) bug ;-)

Thanks to you guys for handling all of this with such class and efficiency.
 
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