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pippa
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>BUT - I do have this teeny tiny problem with this thing called
>the Constitution which gives EVERYONE a presumption of
>innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I was
>a prosecutor for 10 years and my DH does death penalty defense
>work, so please believe me when I say I've seen some of the
>worst there can be. But I know if it were my husband or
>brother or father or sister or me or whoever, scummy as the
>allegations may be, I would hope that the process would be
>allowed to work before the judments are passed. I know that
>in the real society we judge based on what the media gives us,
>but I've got to try to keep believing our due process system
>is the best and should be followed. Ok - sorry to differ -
>and I know the flames will come, but I had to say this. Have
>a great day everyone.
>
>
>
Alright...I KNOW I am going to get flamed for this but I have a little problem with this section of your post. I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a little condescending. I know about the Constitution, due process and presumed innocence. I have read the indictment--which contains the evidence that was given to the grand jury. I'm not getting my information from the media. I don't think that anyone is saying he doesn't deserve his day in court and the same privileges that we all have as citizens of this country. I think the point that people are making is that while he is being investigated he should be subject to the same treatment that most people would get in the same situation--suspension from work.
Considering he works for a high-profile organization and is, himself, very high-profile I don't think it is unreasonable for people to let those organizations know how they feel. Let's be honest, professional sports don't have the best reputation for just 'doing the right thing' when it comes to successful players. I agree there should be limits. Further up in this post I stated that I didn't think Home Depot should be held accountable just yet. But, I do think that the NFL needs to hear what the people that generate their income(the fans) think. As I also posted above(wow...I have been on this thread way too much
)it looks like the NFL only sped up the process of suspending Vick from training camp after recognizing how widespread the public sentiment was.
Alright...I'm really not trying to be rude or single out anyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't think anyone is really being unreasonable...yet
>BUT - I do have this teeny tiny problem with this thing called
>the Constitution which gives EVERYONE a presumption of
>innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I was
>a prosecutor for 10 years and my DH does death penalty defense
>work, so please believe me when I say I've seen some of the
>worst there can be. But I know if it were my husband or
>brother or father or sister or me or whoever, scummy as the
>allegations may be, I would hope that the process would be
>allowed to work before the judments are passed. I know that
>in the real society we judge based on what the media gives us,
>but I've got to try to keep believing our due process system
>is the best and should be followed. Ok - sorry to differ -
>and I know the flames will come, but I had to say this. Have
>a great day everyone.
>
>
>
Alright...I KNOW I am going to get flamed for this but I have a little problem with this section of your post. I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a little condescending. I know about the Constitution, due process and presumed innocence. I have read the indictment--which contains the evidence that was given to the grand jury. I'm not getting my information from the media. I don't think that anyone is saying he doesn't deserve his day in court and the same privileges that we all have as citizens of this country. I think the point that people are making is that while he is being investigated he should be subject to the same treatment that most people would get in the same situation--suspension from work.
Considering he works for a high-profile organization and is, himself, very high-profile I don't think it is unreasonable for people to let those organizations know how they feel. Let's be honest, professional sports don't have the best reputation for just 'doing the right thing' when it comes to successful players. I agree there should be limits. Further up in this post I stated that I didn't think Home Depot should be held accountable just yet. But, I do think that the NFL needs to hear what the people that generate their income(the fans) think. As I also posted above(wow...I have been on this thread way too much
)it looks like the NFL only sped up the process of suspending Vick from training camp after recognizing how widespread the public sentiment was. Alright...I'm really not trying to be rude or single out anyone. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don't think anyone is really being unreasonable...yet
Miss Lee
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
Hasn't he been suspended? I'm asking -- I don't know but I thought he had been suspended already. I have absolutely no problem with a forced suspension.
My feelings on the subject have mostly to do with boycotting HD -- and also the presumption of innocence. This is the system we have and I feel strongly that we need to let it work.
Hasn't he been suspended? I'm asking -- I don't know but I thought he had been suspended already. I have absolutely no problem with a forced suspension.
My feelings on the subject have mostly to do with boycotting HD -- and also the presumption of innocence. This is the system we have and I feel strongly that we need to let it work.
RE: let the flames begin
I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone. Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild animals??
I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone. Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild animals??
Miss Lee
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>
> I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I
>feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a
>huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out
>about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover
>but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going
>over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how
>inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see
>anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I
>have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
>
> I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his
>cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just
>because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a
>bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone.
>Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got
>what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs
>due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything
>against cats, horses, wild animals??
I would like to see half as much outrage over child abuse.
>
> I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I
>feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a
>huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out
>about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover
>but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going
>over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how
>inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see
>anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I
>have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
>
> I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his
>cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just
>because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a
>bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone.
>Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got
>what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs
>due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything
>against cats, horses, wild animals??
I would like to see half as much outrage over child abuse.
L Sass
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a little condescending
No Pippa - you're right - I certainly did not intend to be condescending - sorry if I came across that way.
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>I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a little condescending
No Pippa - you're right - I certainly did not intend to be condescending - sorry if I came across that way.
Lorrie
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pippa
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>>I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a
>little condescending
>
>No Pippa - you're right - I certainly did not intend to be
>condescending - sorry if I came across that way.
>
>Lorrie
>
>I didn't think so...this story just has me so fired upx( I'm sorry if it seemed like I was singling out your post.
>>I'm guessing you didn't intend it this way but I feel it's a
>little condescending
>
>No Pippa - you're right - I certainly did not intend to be
>condescending - sorry if I came across that way.
>
>Lorrie
>
>I didn't think so...this story just has me so fired upx( I'm sorry if it seemed like I was singling out your post.
pippa
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>
> I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I
>feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a
>huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out
>about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover
>but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going
>over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how
>inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see
>anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I
>have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
>
> I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his
>cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just
>because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a
>bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone.
>Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got
>what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs
>due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything
>against cats, horses, wild animals??
I don't want to answer for anyone but I believe Lederr is involved in animal rescue so I think this is a topic close to her heart. Also, this topic is a VERY BIG STORY. Personally, I care about all animals and just because I don't post about here it doesn't mean in my own life I am not involved with trying to protect and stop the cruel and inhumane treatment of ALL animals.
I get 'all stressed out about dogs' because I own dogs and love them and feel like they are part of my family. Don't you think dogs are just as important to speak up for as 'cats, horses, wild animals'? JMO
>
> I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I
>feel HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a
>huge ass Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out
>about dogs? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover
>but what about cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going
>over to Asia to boycott them from eating cats, dogs, and how
>inhumane their treatment towards animals are. I don't see
>anyone trying to stop horses from being turned into dogfood. I
>have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
>
> I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his
>cruelty because the NFL are doing everything right. Just
>because the guy owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a
>bad guy and we need to protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone.
>Nike on the other hand, I won't buy from them until he's got
>what he deserves. Almost every thread lately are about dogs
>due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything
>against cats, horses, wild animals??
I don't want to answer for anyone but I believe Lederr is involved in animal rescue so I think this is a topic close to her heart. Also, this topic is a VERY BIG STORY. Personally, I care about all animals and just because I don't post about here it doesn't mean in my own life I am not involved with trying to protect and stop the cruel and inhumane treatment of ALL animals.
I get 'all stressed out about dogs' because I own dogs and love them and feel like they are part of my family. Don't you think dogs are just as important to speak up for as 'cats, horses, wild animals'? JMO
RE: let the flames begin
>
>I would like to see half as much outrage over child abuse.
>
Child Abuse, idiot judges letting rapists go free when there are a lot of evidence against him/her, murderers getting out 30 yrs earlier,etc..... F*cking ridiculous is all I have to say. I'm very embarrassed with this whole judical system and the media.
>
>I would like to see half as much outrage over child abuse.
>
Child Abuse, idiot judges letting rapists go free when there are a lot of evidence against him/her, murderers getting out 30 yrs earlier,etc..... F*cking ridiculous is all I have to say. I'm very embarrassed with this whole judical system and the media.
RE: let the flames begin
>
>I don't want to answer for anyone but I believe Lederr is
>involved in animal rescue so I think this is a topic close to
>her heart. Also, this topic is a VERY BIG STORY. Personally,
>I care about all animals and just because I don't post about
>here it doesn't mean in my own life I am not involved with
>trying to protect and stop the cruel and inhumane treatment of
>ALL animals.
>
>I get 'all stressed out about dogs' because I own dogs and
>love them and feel like they are part of my family. Don't you
>think dogs are just as important to speak up for as 'cats,
>horses, wild animals'? JMO
>
This is where you misunderstood me. I have dogs, I've had dogs ALL my life. I'm FOR fighting for dogs' "rights" as you people put it but I don't get WHY people choose one animal over the other. It's like favoritism. I do rescue animals but I don't lose sleep over if I could not save one animal's life. I have horses, I have rabbits, I have cats, I have chickens, etc.... Do you realize how many of those are rescued as well? I only have one dog I bought with my own cash personally because I love the breed. I make sure they do not end up in a sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter. Sure, there are a lot of stupid people who have no idea on how to care for a pet. Does that mean they don't have the rights like dogs as well? I personally favor horses over other animals but I don't fight for horses only. What I don't even understand the most of all is why do people think animals' lives are more important than human lives? THAT is what I don't get. Sure, animals have the rights but no offense but humans are more important. I also notice when someone's friend/family/love pass away, only a few people send their sympathy in person or on forums but when a pet passes away, people spout poetry, give their deepest sympathy, etc. I see something wrong with the picture here a little bit.
>
>I don't want to answer for anyone but I believe Lederr is
>involved in animal rescue so I think this is a topic close to
>her heart. Also, this topic is a VERY BIG STORY. Personally,
>I care about all animals and just because I don't post about
>here it doesn't mean in my own life I am not involved with
>trying to protect and stop the cruel and inhumane treatment of
>ALL animals.
>
>I get 'all stressed out about dogs' because I own dogs and
>love them and feel like they are part of my family. Don't you
>think dogs are just as important to speak up for as 'cats,
>horses, wild animals'? JMO
>
This is where you misunderstood me. I have dogs, I've had dogs ALL my life. I'm FOR fighting for dogs' "rights" as you people put it but I don't get WHY people choose one animal over the other. It's like favoritism. I do rescue animals but I don't lose sleep over if I could not save one animal's life. I have horses, I have rabbits, I have cats, I have chickens, etc.... Do you realize how many of those are rescued as well? I only have one dog I bought with my own cash personally because I love the breed. I make sure they do not end up in a sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter. Sure, there are a lot of stupid people who have no idea on how to care for a pet. Does that mean they don't have the rights like dogs as well? I personally favor horses over other animals but I don't fight for horses only. What I don't even understand the most of all is why do people think animals' lives are more important than human lives? THAT is what I don't get. Sure, animals have the rights but no offense but humans are more important. I also notice when someone's friend/family/love pass away, only a few people send their sympathy in person or on forums but when a pet passes away, people spout poetry, give their deepest sympathy, etc. I see something wrong with the picture here a little bit.
pippa
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>>
>>>>
>
> This is where you misunderstood me. I have dogs, I've had
>dogs ALL my life. I'm FOR fighting for dogs' "rights" as you
>people put it but I don't get WHY people choose one animal
>over the other. It's like favoritism. I do rescue animals but
>I don't lose sleep over if I could not save one animal's life.
>I have horses, I have rabbits, I have cats, I have chickens,
>etc.... Do you realize how many of those are rescued as well?
>I only have one dog I bought with my own cash personally
>because I love the breed. I make sure they do not end up in a
>sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter. Sure, there
>are a lot of stupid people who have no idea on how to care for
>a pet. Does that mean they don't have the rights like dogs as
>well? I personally favor horses over other animals but I don't
>fight for horses only. What I don't even understand the most
>of all is why do people think animals' lives are more
>important than human lives? THAT is what I don't get. Sure,
>animals have the rights but no offense but humans are more
>important. I also notice when someone's friend/family/love
>pass away, only a few people send their sympathy in person or
>on forums but when a pet passes away, people spout poetry,
>give their deepest sympathy, etc. I see something wrong with
>the picture here a little bit.
I didn't misunderstand you. I see your point, mine is that just because people are being vocal about this issue doesn't mean that they aren't vocal about issues affecting other animals. On this board, right now, it may seem that way but that certainly doesn't make it true. I will also say that I don't know that it is universally accepted that 'humans are more important.'
>>
>>>>
>
> This is where you misunderstood me. I have dogs, I've had
>dogs ALL my life. I'm FOR fighting for dogs' "rights" as you
>people put it but I don't get WHY people choose one animal
>over the other. It's like favoritism. I do rescue animals but
>I don't lose sleep over if I could not save one animal's life.
>I have horses, I have rabbits, I have cats, I have chickens,
>etc.... Do you realize how many of those are rescued as well?
>I only have one dog I bought with my own cash personally
>because I love the breed. I make sure they do not end up in a
>sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter. Sure, there
>are a lot of stupid people who have no idea on how to care for
>a pet. Does that mean they don't have the rights like dogs as
>well? I personally favor horses over other animals but I don't
>fight for horses only. What I don't even understand the most
>of all is why do people think animals' lives are more
>important than human lives? THAT is what I don't get. Sure,
>animals have the rights but no offense but humans are more
>important. I also notice when someone's friend/family/love
>pass away, only a few people send their sympathy in person or
>on forums but when a pet passes away, people spout poetry,
>give their deepest sympathy, etc. I see something wrong with
>the picture here a little bit.
I didn't misunderstand you. I see your point, mine is that just because people are being vocal about this issue doesn't mean that they aren't vocal about issues affecting other animals. On this board, right now, it may seem that way but that certainly doesn't make it true. I will also say that I don't know that it is universally accepted that 'humans are more important.'
RE: let the flames begin
ZT27
Ummm, yes, I have been posting about dogs (not sure why this is a problem). I have worked in animal rescue for over ten years and also rescue cats. No, we don't have the facility to rescue horses and other wild animals. What do you do for the animals you talk about? Have you voluntered your weekends almost every week for the past ten years as well as foster countless animals until they are adopted?
<Almost every thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild animals??>
What exactly don't you understand about me or my posts? The fact that they are about dogs? Why is that a problem? Why does it appear you are assuming that I only care about dogs? Why would you assume you know anything about me from my posts? I have given my time and money to all animal causes and walk the walk.
Last time I checked, this was an OPEN DISCUSSION forum. I thought that meant I could post about dogs if I so choose. If it offends you, don't read or respond. It's that simple.
I find your post pretty offensive.
ZT27
Ummm, yes, I have been posting about dogs (not sure why this is a problem). I have worked in animal rescue for over ten years and also rescue cats. No, we don't have the facility to rescue horses and other wild animals. What do you do for the animals you talk about? Have you voluntered your weekends almost every week for the past ten years as well as foster countless animals until they are adopted?
<Almost every thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild animals??>
What exactly don't you understand about me or my posts? The fact that they are about dogs? Why is that a problem? Why does it appear you are assuming that I only care about dogs? Why would you assume you know anything about me from my posts? I have given my time and money to all animal causes and walk the walk.
Last time I checked, this was an OPEN DISCUSSION forum. I thought that meant I could post about dogs if I so choose. If it offends you, don't read or respond. It's that simple.
I find your post pretty offensive.
Miss Lee
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
>I will also say that I
>don't know that it is universally accepted that 'humans are
>more important.'
You're right, unfortunately, it's NOT universally accepted that humans are more important than animals, but it SHOULD be! Maybe this is why there's so much child abuse, and in turn, so much animal abuse. There is a connection between the two, by the way. If I had children, which I don't, I wouldn't want them in the care of someone who thought the dog was more important.
>I will also say that I
>don't know that it is universally accepted that 'humans are
>more important.'
You're right, unfortunately, it's NOT universally accepted that humans are more important than animals, but it SHOULD be! Maybe this is why there's so much child abuse, and in turn, so much animal abuse. There is a connection between the two, by the way. If I had children, which I don't, I wouldn't want them in the care of someone who thought the dog was more important.
andtckrtoo
Cathlete
RE: let the flames begin
I'm not understanding the arguments about getting all fired up over ONE type animal. Why not horses, why not cats, wildlife, etc. It's because Dog Fighting is extremely prevelant among the lower eschelons of our society. It's symptomatic of many of today's problems with our young, and our underpriviledged. Animal abuse can and does lead to many other horrible things - like Child Abuse (someone mentioned that). It's not just Vick out there encouraging these dogs to fight, abusing them, killing them in cruel and unusual ways. Why do you think PitBull attacks are on the rise? Why do you think our shelters are filled with Pitts? There is so much inter-related with this, that I'm simply amazed that it took Vick to raise the public outcry. It should have been done a long time ago. But, as it's related to the part of society that most of us don't care about (the inner city people, pit bulls, etc), we have conveniently ignored it.
*Steps off soapbox*
I'm not understanding the arguments about getting all fired up over ONE type animal. Why not horses, why not cats, wildlife, etc. It's because Dog Fighting is extremely prevelant among the lower eschelons of our society. It's symptomatic of many of today's problems with our young, and our underpriviledged. Animal abuse can and does lead to many other horrible things - like Child Abuse (someone mentioned that). It's not just Vick out there encouraging these dogs to fight, abusing them, killing them in cruel and unusual ways. Why do you think PitBull attacks are on the rise? Why do you think our shelters are filled with Pitts? There is so much inter-related with this, that I'm simply amazed that it took Vick to raise the public outcry. It should have been done a long time ago. But, as it's related to the part of society that most of us don't care about (the inner city people, pit bulls, etc), we have conveniently ignored it.
*Steps off soapbox*
RE: let the flames begin
ZT27
Sorry for your crap friends. Mine express the same amount of sympathy regardless of the loss.
<I make sure they do not end up in a sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter.>
A true animal lover would NEVER bring an animal to a shelter where they will most likely be killed and, at best, not cared for well.
ZT27
Sorry for your crap friends. Mine express the same amount of sympathy regardless of the loss.
<I make sure they do not end up in a sh*tty shelter if I do bring them to a shelter.>
A true animal lover would NEVER bring an animal to a shelter where they will most likely be killed and, at best, not cared for well.
dogs2birds
Cathlete
>I don't know the whole story about Vick nor do I care. Yes, I feel >HORRIBLE for these poor dogs and I can't get over what a huge ass >Vick is but why are you all getting all stressed out about dogs? >Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE, HUGE animal lover but what about >cats, horses, etc? I don't see anyone going over to Asia to boycott >them from eating cats, dogs, and how inhumane their treatment >towards animals are. I don't see anyone trying to stop horses from >being turned into dogfood. I have dogs myself and I LOVE dogs.
>I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his cruelty >because the NFL are doing everything right. Just because the guy >owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a bad guy and we need to >protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone. Nike on the other hand, I >won't buy from them until he's got what he deserves. Almost every >thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't >understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild >animals??
ZT27:
I normally don't like to get involved in "heated" debates, but...I think that your post was a little unnecessary. I know that we are all open to our own opinions, but to say that we're "all getting all stressed out about dogs" is a pretty rude and insenstive comment considering the terrible, terrible things that have been done to these dogs. As Pippa mentioned, this is a HUGE story right now and of course everyone is talking about it. You have no idea what other animal rescue efforts people are involved in. You have no idea what other animal rescue efforts I'm involved in worldwide and how many petitions I sign on a regular basis - over and over and over again, including stopping horses from becoming dog food. But you wouldn't know that. You just ASSUME that nobody is doing anything other than talking about this case because that is what the recent posts are about. And SO WHAT if dogs are the rescue of choice for people on these boards? THANK GOODNESS they are doing SOMETHING. People have limited time and money and can only do so much. That is their business, not yours. That doesn't mean that they have anything against cats, horses or wild animals. That just means that they have made a choice with the resources they have.
I personally appreciate everything that Lederr has done here in keeping us all updated and giving us links to sign petitions if we so choose. If you have petitions you want people to sign to stop things in Asia, I would encourage you to do so instead of accusing people of having something against all these other animals.
Suz
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." - Anatole France
http://www.picturetrail.com/dogs2birds
>I don't see the point of boycotting anything due to his cruelty >because the NFL are doing everything right. Just because the guy >owns HD and the Falcons doesn't mean he's a bad guy and we need to >protest. I'm all for leaving HD alone. Nike on the other hand, I >won't buy from them until he's got what he deserves. Almost every >thread lately are about dogs due to Lederr which I don't >understand. Do you have anything against cats, horses, wild >animals??
ZT27:
I normally don't like to get involved in "heated" debates, but...I think that your post was a little unnecessary. I know that we are all open to our own opinions, but to say that we're "all getting all stressed out about dogs" is a pretty rude and insenstive comment considering the terrible, terrible things that have been done to these dogs. As Pippa mentioned, this is a HUGE story right now and of course everyone is talking about it. You have no idea what other animal rescue efforts people are involved in. You have no idea what other animal rescue efforts I'm involved in worldwide and how many petitions I sign on a regular basis - over and over and over again, including stopping horses from becoming dog food. But you wouldn't know that. You just ASSUME that nobody is doing anything other than talking about this case because that is what the recent posts are about. And SO WHAT if dogs are the rescue of choice for people on these boards? THANK GOODNESS they are doing SOMETHING. People have limited time and money and can only do so much. That is their business, not yours. That doesn't mean that they have anything against cats, horses or wild animals. That just means that they have made a choice with the resources they have.
I personally appreciate everything that Lederr has done here in keeping us all updated and giving us links to sign petitions if we so choose. If you have petitions you want people to sign to stop things in Asia, I would encourage you to do so instead of accusing people of having something against all these other animals.
Suz
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." - Anatole France
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ldy_solana
Cathlete
suz i would have posted the same thing had you not beat me to it. its her RIGHT to chose to protest what she believes in. when you believe in something you voice it,no matter what that may be. ppl will choose to join you or leave you alone. instead of leaving lederr be with her choice most are attacking. i admire her animal rescuse i wish i had the land and home(instead of a crappy apartment)to do that. i love animals espeically cats,but that doesn't mean i don't love dogs and horses too.
i fight for autism, b/c of my child who has it, does that mean i have something against ppl with cystic fibrosis or cancer? NO its just a personal choice and i fight for awareness. its all relative to what is important to the person and what they can do. don't we all wish we can say we do something to make the world better?
kassia
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i fight for autism, b/c of my child who has it, does that mean i have something against ppl with cystic fibrosis or cancer? NO its just a personal choice and i fight for awareness. its all relative to what is important to the person and what they can do. don't we all wish we can say we do something to make the world better?
kassia
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ldy_solana
Cathlete
>Thanks Suz, Kassia and Pippa. I couldn't understand why I
>was getting bashed for posting about dogs...that is what I
>primarily rescue because I have dogs of my own and my dogs
>don't like cats.
and you have a cute little doggie at that. how cute is that avatar!!
kassia
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>was getting bashed for posting about dogs...that is what I
>primarily rescue because I have dogs of my own and my dogs
>don't like cats.
and you have a cute little doggie at that. how cute is that avatar!!
kassia
http://www.picturetrail.com/ldy_solana
"And do what thee wilt as long as ye harm none"
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