Goldendoodle
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marnold
Cathlete
Elaine,
I was so curious about the breed name that I googled it...here is what I found:
http://www.goldendoodles.com/home.htm
http://www.goldendoodles.com/goldendoodle_faq.htm
Good luck! They look adorable!
I was so curious about the breed name that I googled it...here is what I found:
http://www.goldendoodles.com/home.htm
http://www.goldendoodles.com/goldendoodle_faq.htm
Good luck! They look adorable!
crazystepr
Cathlete
A close friend of mine has a Labradoodle and he is just the apple of everyone's eye!! He looks like a big stuffed animal and is the sweetest thing ever!
I'm not sure if Goldendoodle's temperaments are similar to Labradoodle's but if they are, I say go for it!!!
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
I'm not sure if Goldendoodle's temperaments are similar to Labradoodle's but if they are, I say go for it!!!
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
andtckrtoo
Cathlete
Goldendoodles are great dogs - I'm sure. If you're looking for a hypo-allergenic dog - they are not necessarily so. Also, think on this - no reputable breeder would purposely breed a "designer dog" - aka a mutt. So there are no breed standards, most of the breeders of doodles, puggles and all of the other "Boutique Dogs" are back yard breeders with no real licensing and no standard to which they breed. You may get a great dog, but you may end up with an extremely hyper dog who has a lot of problems. I think (and this is purely my opinion) you are much better off getting a pure Golden Retreiver from a reputable breeder or a wonderful mix from the pound.
Here's an excellent article on the "Poo" breeds... (Which are also doodles) http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html
Here's an excellent article on the "Poo" breeds... (Which are also doodles) http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html
materialsgirl
Cathlete
I would get one just for the name! 
MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
To those who have recommended a pure bred Golden Retriever - you must have missed the part where the OP mentioned that her kids have allergies. Golden Retrievers shed BIG TIME, as do Labrador Retrievers.
My children also have allergies and we searched all the low-shedding (no such thing as non-shedding or hypo-allergenic) dogs, but none of their temperaments were ideal for children.
We found a Labradoodle breeder that was 2 hours away. This is our Kirby and he is a show-stopper everywhere we go:
We've had him for two months now and my children have not reacted (so far anyway).
He is the sweetest dog we've ever had. He has the temperament of a labrador, but sheds very little, like a poodle.
There is a huge backlash against the "designer" breeds, mainly because they are charging so much for "mutts."
However, just as there are scrupulous and unscrupulous PURE bred breeders, the same can be said for these designer breeds. So, you have to research to find a good doodle breeder.
I love labradors and goldens, but will always look for a doodle in the future due to their low-shedding coats.
My children also have allergies and we searched all the low-shedding (no such thing as non-shedding or hypo-allergenic) dogs, but none of their temperaments were ideal for children.
We found a Labradoodle breeder that was 2 hours away. This is our Kirby and he is a show-stopper everywhere we go:
We've had him for two months now and my children have not reacted (so far anyway).
He is the sweetest dog we've ever had. He has the temperament of a labrador, but sheds very little, like a poodle.
There is a huge backlash against the "designer" breeds, mainly because they are charging so much for "mutts."
However, just as there are scrupulous and unscrupulous PURE bred breeders, the same can be said for these designer breeds. So, you have to research to find a good doodle breeder.
I love labradors and goldens, but will always look for a doodle in the future due to their low-shedding coats.
andtckrtoo
Cathlete
There are unscrupulous pure bred breeders out there as well. However, if you read that article and what I wrote, I'm stating that the is NO such thing as a reputable doodle breeder. I'm not saying that doodle breeders are horrible people, just that no one can make the promises they are based on the animals they are breeding.
Also, the huge backlash again the "designer breeds" among the animal loving community has nothing to do with the cost. It has everything to do with the fact that the majority of doodle, puggle, poo and whatever breeders are backyard and puppy mills. If you go to your local pound, you might be surprised at the sheer volumes of "designer dogs" that are there, simply because their owners were promised the perfect dog, and the dog isn't. There was no attempt to "match" the dog to his/her people.
If you really want a doodle - check with all of the local breeders for the following - you are required to fill out an application and the breeder will actually check references. All certifications, including OAF and Hip certs from at least three generations back are available for you to see (you want to assure as much as possible that you will not have these issues). All puppies are sold with a spay/neuter contract. If you are looking for a reputable purebred breeder you would add that both parents and out for three generations have their championship as breeding of purebreds should be done soley to further enhance the breed. And YES - it should be that tough to get a dog - too many end up in the pound as it is because people have no idea what they are getting in to when they get a dog or the latest "hot" breed - be it a doodle or a Border Collie.
"You must have missed the part where the OP mentioned that her kids have allergies. Golden Retrievers shed BIG TIME, as do Labrador Retrievers." - this is the biggest lie of all doodle breeders - "It's crossed with a poodle, so it won't shed and it's hyperallergenic." First of all - ALL dogs shed - even poodles I hate to tell you. Okay, poodles and many (not all) doodles won't shed as much as my aussie for example. You don't know how the coat will turn out until the dog is over a year old (my first Aussie NEVER shed as a pup - boy did he make up for that as an adult!) Second - the likelihood of a dog being hypoallergenic by being crossed with a poodle is next to nill.
As for keeping a shedder, shed free - many of the grooming parlors offer a de-shedding service when they groom. My Australian Shepherd is a huge shedder as in our American Eskimo (pound rescue), but I take him every 3 months to be de-shed and my DH who is also allergic to dogs, has no problem.
Also, the huge backlash again the "designer breeds" among the animal loving community has nothing to do with the cost. It has everything to do with the fact that the majority of doodle, puggle, poo and whatever breeders are backyard and puppy mills. If you go to your local pound, you might be surprised at the sheer volumes of "designer dogs" that are there, simply because their owners were promised the perfect dog, and the dog isn't. There was no attempt to "match" the dog to his/her people.
If you really want a doodle - check with all of the local breeders for the following - you are required to fill out an application and the breeder will actually check references. All certifications, including OAF and Hip certs from at least three generations back are available for you to see (you want to assure as much as possible that you will not have these issues). All puppies are sold with a spay/neuter contract. If you are looking for a reputable purebred breeder you would add that both parents and out for three generations have their championship as breeding of purebreds should be done soley to further enhance the breed. And YES - it should be that tough to get a dog - too many end up in the pound as it is because people have no idea what they are getting in to when they get a dog or the latest "hot" breed - be it a doodle or a Border Collie.
"You must have missed the part where the OP mentioned that her kids have allergies. Golden Retrievers shed BIG TIME, as do Labrador Retrievers." - this is the biggest lie of all doodle breeders - "It's crossed with a poodle, so it won't shed and it's hyperallergenic." First of all - ALL dogs shed - even poodles I hate to tell you. Okay, poodles and many (not all) doodles won't shed as much as my aussie for example. You don't know how the coat will turn out until the dog is over a year old (my first Aussie NEVER shed as a pup - boy did he make up for that as an adult!) Second - the likelihood of a dog being hypoallergenic by being crossed with a poodle is next to nill.
As for keeping a shedder, shed free - many of the grooming parlors offer a de-shedding service when they groom. My Australian Shepherd is a huge shedder as in our American Eskimo (pound rescue), but I take him every 3 months to be de-shed and my DH who is also allergic to dogs, has no problem.
amazondotmom
Cathlete
We have a 92lb cream Labradoodle and he is an awesome dog! I want to warn you that my dog sheds. I too was looking for a dog that did not shed. I didn't do my research on this! He is very cute and attracts alot of attention when he is furry. People will always comment on him at the park. I have him shaved 2xs a year-I can't take the hair floating around my house. He has a really good temperament, I was advised by a breeder to use the Vollard Puppy aptitude test when selecting a dog. I believe in this test because our dog is a really sweet, smart, good family dog and very mellow. I think if there are different levels of Goldendoodles just like Labradoodles. I'm not sure the exact terminology-I believe an L1 dog is a Labradoodle that is bred back with a Poodle-the dog looks more like a poodle than a lab and does not shed. I may be wrong on this but it is something to research. Even though my dog sheds , I can't imagine not having our dog in our family, we got lucky!
, I can't imagine not having our dog in our family, we got lucky!MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
I think you are mistaking me for a person who does not do her research before embarking in investing in a member of the family.
>There are unscrupulous pure bred breeders out there as well.
>However, if you read that article and what I wrote, I'm
>stating that the is NO such thing as a reputable doodle
>breeder. I'm not saying that doodle breeders are horrible
>people, just that no one can make the promises they are based
>on the animals they are breeding.
The breeders I contacted made no such promises. They warned me that there were no guarantees, however, based on their past experience, their puppies grew to have very low or non-shedding coats. They also had many satisfied customers from previous litters who were willing to provide testimonials.
There are also variations in each litter.
>
>Also, the huge backlash again the "designer breeds" among the
>animal loving community has nothing to do with the cost. It
>has everything to do with the fact that the majority of
>doodle, puggle, poo and whatever breeders are backyard and
>puppy mills. If you go to your local pound, you might be
>surprised at the sheer volumes of "designer dogs" that are
>there, simply because their owners were promised the perfect
>dog, and the dog isn't. There was no attempt to "match" the
>dog to his/her people.
The first thing we did was call rescues and pounds. There were no doodles available.
>
>"You must have missed the part where the OP mentioned that her
>kids have allergies. Golden Retrievers shed BIG TIME, as do
>Labrador Retrievers." - this is the biggest lie of all doodle
>breeders - "It's crossed with a poodle, so it won't shed and
>it's hyperallergenic." First of all - ALL dogs shed - even
>poodles I hate to tell you. Okay, poodles and many (not all)
>doodles won't shed as much as my aussie for example. You
>don't know how the coat will turn out until the dog is over a
>year old (my first Aussie NEVER shed as a pup - boy did he
>make up for that as an adult!)
Again, you did not read my post thoroughly. I SAID there is no such thing as a hypo-allergenic dog.
>Second - the likelihood of a
>dog being hypoallergenic by being crossed with a poodle is
>next to nill.
I don't know what qualifications you have to make such an erroneousl statement?
So, explain to me why my labradoodle, and his mother (also a labradoodle who was on the premises) doesn't shed?
The Australian labradoodle, which has been bred for many years, is actually recognized as a breed and there are organizations that are working to standardize the labradoodle breed BECAUSE of the successful breeding: A family friend dog with low/non-shedding coat desirable by MANY allergy-suffering people who desire the companionship of a dog:
http://www.ilainc.com/index.html
>There are unscrupulous pure bred breeders out there as well.
>However, if you read that article and what I wrote, I'm
>stating that the is NO such thing as a reputable doodle
>breeder. I'm not saying that doodle breeders are horrible
>people, just that no one can make the promises they are based
>on the animals they are breeding.
The breeders I contacted made no such promises. They warned me that there were no guarantees, however, based on their past experience, their puppies grew to have very low or non-shedding coats. They also had many satisfied customers from previous litters who were willing to provide testimonials.
There are also variations in each litter.
>
>Also, the huge backlash again the "designer breeds" among the
>animal loving community has nothing to do with the cost. It
>has everything to do with the fact that the majority of
>doodle, puggle, poo and whatever breeders are backyard and
>puppy mills. If you go to your local pound, you might be
>surprised at the sheer volumes of "designer dogs" that are
>there, simply because their owners were promised the perfect
>dog, and the dog isn't. There was no attempt to "match" the
>dog to his/her people.
The first thing we did was call rescues and pounds. There were no doodles available.
>
>"You must have missed the part where the OP mentioned that her
>kids have allergies. Golden Retrievers shed BIG TIME, as do
>Labrador Retrievers." - this is the biggest lie of all doodle
>breeders - "It's crossed with a poodle, so it won't shed and
>it's hyperallergenic." First of all - ALL dogs shed - even
>poodles I hate to tell you. Okay, poodles and many (not all)
>doodles won't shed as much as my aussie for example. You
>don't know how the coat will turn out until the dog is over a
>year old (my first Aussie NEVER shed as a pup - boy did he
>make up for that as an adult!)
Again, you did not read my post thoroughly. I SAID there is no such thing as a hypo-allergenic dog.
>Second - the likelihood of a
>dog being hypoallergenic by being crossed with a poodle is
>next to nill.
I don't know what qualifications you have to make such an erroneousl statement?
So, explain to me why my labradoodle, and his mother (also a labradoodle who was on the premises) doesn't shed?
The Australian labradoodle, which has been bred for many years, is actually recognized as a breed and there are organizations that are working to standardize the labradoodle breed BECAUSE of the successful breeding: A family friend dog with low/non-shedding coat desirable by MANY allergy-suffering people who desire the companionship of a dog:
http://www.ilainc.com/index.html
MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
>We have a 92lb cream Labradoodle and he is an awesome dog! I
>want to warn you that my dog sheds. I too was looking for a
>dog that did not shed. I didn't do my research on this! He
>is very cute and attracts alot of attention when he is furry.
>People will always comment on him at the park. I have him
>shaved 2xs a year-I can't take the hair floating around my
>house. He has a really good temperament, I was advised by a
>breeder to use the Vollard Puppy aptitude test when selecting
>a dog. I believe in this test because our dog is a really
>sweet, smart, good family dog and very mellow. I think if
>there are different levels of Goldendoodles just like
>Labradoodles. I'm not sure the exact terminology-I believe an
>L1 dog is a Labradoodle that is bred back with a Poodle-the
>dog looks more like a poodle than a lab and does not shed. I
>may be wrong on this but it is something to research. Even
>though my dog sheds, I can't imagine not having our dog in
>our family, we got lucky!
F1 = Labrador (or Golden) + Poodle
F1B = Labradoodle/Goldendoodle + Poodle (or Golden or Labrador)
F2 = Labradoodle or (Goldendoodle) + Labradoodle (or Goldendoodle)
F1s have the most tendency to retain the shedding coat of a retriever since they are 50/50.
"Crossbacks" least likely to shed - F1Bs bred to poodle, so their genes are 25% retriever and 75% poodle - but, again, no guarantees.
>want to warn you that my dog sheds. I too was looking for a
>dog that did not shed. I didn't do my research on this! He
>is very cute and attracts alot of attention when he is furry.
>People will always comment on him at the park. I have him
>shaved 2xs a year-I can't take the hair floating around my
>house. He has a really good temperament, I was advised by a
>breeder to use the Vollard Puppy aptitude test when selecting
>a dog. I believe in this test because our dog is a really
>sweet, smart, good family dog and very mellow. I think if
>there are different levels of Goldendoodles just like
>Labradoodles. I'm not sure the exact terminology-I believe an
>L1 dog is a Labradoodle that is bred back with a Poodle-the
>dog looks more like a poodle than a lab and does not shed. I
>may be wrong on this but it is something to research. Even
>though my dog sheds
, I can't imagine not having our dog in>our family, we got lucky!
F1 = Labrador (or Golden) + Poodle
F1B = Labradoodle/Goldendoodle + Poodle (or Golden or Labrador)
F2 = Labradoodle or (Goldendoodle) + Labradoodle (or Goldendoodle)
F1s have the most tendency to retain the shedding coat of a retriever since they are 50/50.
"Crossbacks" least likely to shed - F1Bs bred to poodle, so their genes are 25% retriever and 75% poodle - but, again, no guarantees.
crazystepr
Cathlete
Just to clarify, a pure Labradoodle or Goldendoodle means that they were bread from either a lab and poodle or Golden and poodle. To mate a doodle with a doodle causes all sorts of complications.
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
>Just to clarify, a pure Labradoodle or Goldendoodle means
>that they were bread from either a lab and poodle or Golden
>and poodle. To mate a doodle with a doodle causes all sorts of
>complications.
>
>Allison
>
>http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
Really? Would you care to elaborate?
I read that they don't lose their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th generation.
>that they were bread from either a lab and poodle or Golden
>and poodle. To mate a doodle with a doodle causes all sorts of
>complications.
>
>Allison
>
>http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
Really? Would you care to elaborate?
I read that they don't lose their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th generation.
crazystepr
Cathlete
Hi MadnNatsmom! I'm no expert or breeder or anything, but this is the info I've read (and heard). For example, Wikipedia lists this:
"By restricting breeding to early generation dogs (i.e. bred from a Poodle and Labrador rather than from two Labradoodles), they hope to maintain genetic diversity, and avoid the inherited health problems that have plagued some dog breeds."
To be honest, though, I'm not sure exactly WHAT health problems they develop.....
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
"By restricting breeding to early generation dogs (i.e. bred from a Poodle and Labrador rather than from two Labradoodles), they hope to maintain genetic diversity, and avoid the inherited health problems that have plagued some dog breeds."
To be honest, though, I'm not sure exactly WHAT health problems they develop.....
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
Hi Allison,
I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent generation.
I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent generation.
crazystepr
Cathlete
>Hi Allison,
>
>I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose
>their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent
>generation.
Ah ha! Interesting...
Might I add that your labradoodle is, quite possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life!!!!!!!!!!!
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
>
>I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose
>their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent
>generation.
Ah ha! Interesting...
Might I add that your labradoodle is, quite possibly the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life!!!!!!!!!!!
Allison
http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
MadnNatsmom
Cathlete
>>Hi Allison,
>>
>>I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose
>>their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent
>>generation.
>
>Ah ha! Interesting...
>
> Might I add that your labradoodle is, quite possibly the
>cutest thing I've ever seen in my life!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Allison
>
>http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
We think so, too!
DH and I are dog lovers and were heartbroken that BOTH of our children were allergic to dogs.
I am SO thankful that we found Kirby! Cuddling him is the best stress reliever there is.
>>
>>I edited my post above, but I'd read that they don't lose
>>their "hybrid vigor" until about the 4th and subsequent
>>generation.
>
>Ah ha! Interesting...
>
> Might I add that your labradoodle is, quite possibly the
>cutest thing I've ever seen in my life!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Allison
>
>http://www.picturetrail.com/allisonj90
We think so, too!
DH and I are dog lovers and were heartbroken that BOTH of our children were allergic to dogs.
I am SO thankful that we found Kirby! Cuddling him is the best stress reliever there is.