Awesome 2K02: What Makes it Superior

Vivian

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Well, I just coughed up $30 (including shipping) for Mindy's sports tape and must say that it's well worth the money. It's one of those body-changing workouts that is exhilarating enough to last for hours and hours.

After doing the workout several times, I couldn't help but wonder exactly what makes a good workout video, and, for that matter, what makes a bad one. My opinion? You're going to get more than your money's worth from Mindy. Having never been one to fuss over fancy choreography, preferring to get a kick-butt workout rather than dance on the step, Mindy's tape is grueling from the warm-up on. (Nothing against fancy choreography, but, hey, I'm a busy mom---I have to get in and out.) Unlike, say, Kari Anderson in Body Tech, Mindy actually takes advantage of video technology, saying, "Rewind this and do it again." Sometimes, I feel than video instructors spend so much time teaching a move, that they forget that the class is not live, that the participant can rewind the darn tape. (Praises to Cathe for getting this right.) For instance, after doing Body Tech three times, I traded the thing; I mastered the moves and couldn't stand the painfully slow teaching pace any more.

What else makes Mindy's tape successful? She and her colleagues are "honest athletes." Encouraging, without being overly scripted or annoying. I recall doing Aerostep-- another quick trade---and wanting to vaporize the models behind Gin making kissy faces at the camera. Mindy is an athlete--and is classy enough to presume that her viewers are too.

Sadly, I doubt if the "video gurus" will permit Mindy to do a second sports tape. Oh, they might create a tape with Mindy in it, but somehow they'll fail to recognize what made the tape awesome in the first place (brilliance and straightforward simplicity). Mindy's second tape will undoubtedly include overly complex choreography, ridiculous silicone chicks, and an "affected" script.

I know I'm rambling here...but I used to workout with Debbie Ellenberg--an awesome and inspiring instructor-- who was featured in CIA 2003 and 4004. Instead of playing up Debbie's athletic strengths, the producers had her doing such hokey moves ("cookie jar arms) in 4004 that the segment was no more a workout than, say, loading the dishwasher.

I don't get it. Where's the market analysis for advanced exercisers? Cathe has clearly cornered the market. What's so difficult about producing exceptional workout videos that appeal to our advanced workout interests.....Or perhaps it's our fault. Perhaps we don't demand enough. So, here's the question, if you were on the production team, what would you demand in an advanced fitness video? What would you trash?
 
I think you hit the nail on the head...

For me an awesome video starts with the quality of instructor.
It could be the worlds best production and workout but if I am not sold by the instructor...forget it.
I share your enthusiasm with Mindys new tape..also a big fan of her cycling video..and mainly due to all the qualities that you stated. Intense with a high fun factor and I agree, she has the ability to educate and instruct without feeling like your being grilled on form and just being put through the routine.
I also want to feel acctepted in a video..I know that sounds funny, but it's no different than walking into an aerobics class for me and wanting to join the group...I want to be feel like I am welcome to join in and am made to feel that I am capable and fit..even if I had to modify. Mindy makes you feel comfortable and welcome. These are all the reasons that make me stick with Cathe...Mindy is the closest to having anyone compare to Cathe for me.

I love Mindy and hope the industry allows room for her
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As far as your question on advanced videos...hey, we're an educated crowd
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...If I buy an advanced video, I expect it to be within fitness level that the tape is advertised as...like Cathe does..thanks to anyone listening out there
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. If I buy an advanced tape...I don't want it taken down a notch because the industry wants to market it to a bigger crowd... I think we are all proud to have come this far and we all wear our Cathe-ablilty like a badge of honor, we should be rewarded with a video that meets the needs of the higher end... and I think the market is there...thanks to Cathe
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. Not sure how much sense that makes but...I'm late for work
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nancy:O)
 
I'm with you, too

I agree with what both of you have said. Many of us using videos are people who have been used to doing classes at gyms, but for some reason or another use videos as well or instead of the gym. With all of the less advanced videos out there, the advanced among us need more to choose from. Maybe as the industry gets bigger, this will become a reality. I like an instructor who makes you feel like they are in your home (Cathe) and one who wants to work out as hard as you do. I can tell the instructors who want to be there working with you and the ones who just want to make a video! I wonder how all those instructors out there feel, because I'm sure many of them are capable of so much more than what they are allowedto do. Maybe they'll listen to us one day
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Ditto, Ditto, Ditto...

on all 3 of your posts! It is so frustrating, not to mention costly, to buy a video and bring it home to find out~"What in the world did I just spend my money on!!??" Thanks Cathe for giving us what an Advanced Workout really is. For that matter, if we can't keep up with a certain section, modify!!! At least we have something to look forward to and not just sitting that video on the shelf with all the other disappointments. Keep up the good work.
 
name of this tape??

Since I discovered Cathe, the only other insturctor I've tried is Kari & have since traded all her tapes (Kari's, not Cathe's!!). However, a little variety would be nice, so, is 2K02 the name of this tape & is it a step tape? Is it part of a series, like Firm, Cia?

I'm cruising over to VF to see if I can find out more.
 
Another reason in support...

After doing Mindy's tape yet again, I thought of another reason that this tape succeeds. Mindy presents a very, very tough athletic level, and she says, "Here, make this your goal. It may take you a while to get there, but you'll get there. You'll meet this goal."

Too many other instsructors offer a low-level workout and say, "There's no goal involved here...nothing to reach for....but hey, don't I look good? Give us some money."

From what I can see so far, both Cathe and Mindy are dedicated first and foremost to working hard, achieving difficult fitness goals, and improving life in the process. True, spirited athletes---a relatively rare thing in the fitness video industry.
 
OK, I just read the review at VF...

& the tape sounds challenging & fun, but it also sounds like it takes alot of room, which I don't have. comments?
 
Space

Lezly:

I do 2K02 in a 8' by 8' space with room to spare. Nah, any hi/lo tape would take WAY more room than this tape. Efficiency is one of the cool things about 2K02.
 
just borrowed 2K02

Vivian, I just borrowed CIA 2K02 from a VF friend and I am so excited about previewing (and DOING) it. I've heard it ranks right up there with IMax in intensity. There aren't many tapes at that level, and not many people willing to produce them, but that is because you and Nancy and others who work out at that level regularly are a pretty doggone elite group! When you're good enough at ANYTHING to be considered "elite" you are going to be outside the mainstream. That doesn't mean the mainstream is wrong. Sure, there are a lot of vids out there designed for beginners and intermediates which have no "goal" or challenge for you, but I bet they do for their target audience!! If you are overweight and out of shape, Denise Austin might get you huffing and puffing! So you can be proud of yourself that you ARE an elite level fitness enthusiast, but just know that that means it will be harder to find workouts. And that's not really the fault of the industry, it is just catering to the rest of the bell curve (which is has to do to make a profit and survive!). Mindy has done several workouts for Sara City and I believe they are all pretty intense. I know that Greg Twombly over at CIA has heard many enthusiastic comments about how tough 2K02 is, and a lot of complaints about other workouts that aren't the tough ones that advanced exercisers are looking for from CIA. Have you ever visited CIA's forum?? Go tell Greg you LOVE it tough and you WANT MORE tough! I bet he'll let Mindy kill you if he knows you like it! :):):)
 
Of course you're right.

Susan:

I know you're right. I'll follow your advice. Thanks for reminding me of the bell curve theory. Let me know what you think of 2K02, when you get a chance. :)
 
Another note!

I just want to add that I think it is terrific that there is a variety of videos for all fitness levels. We all had to start somewhere and it surely was not with an advanced level tape! It will be interesting to see how many more instructors come out with more intense videos now they they know there is a demand for them. It took Cathe to show them what the advanced exerciser wanted! Thanks Cathe! (Even though I have a ways to go to catch up with you on those PLYO JACKS!!!
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Just wanted to add:

I have been working out almost exclusively w/Cathe and the firm(mostly cathe, no body compares to her cardio!).
I just received this 2k02 off the exchange and it kicked my butt! I could hardly finish it...
I especially liked the kickbox circuit and now i am really interested in Cathes Kardio kicks coming out. Didn't think I really liked kickboxing, but this style I do!
 
What I love about this forum and video fitness forum

I love the fact that you can speak to people who have varied workout interests and who love to work out with exercise videos.

Thanks, Vivian, for the info on 2K02. I have found that some CIA's I purchased were not as hard as I thought, or were poorly cued (I felt), so that I lost interest right away. On this forum, someone discussed 9801, and I ran out (okay, my credit card did the running), and got that tape. I love that tape, and purchased other Christi Taylor tapes, and I really enjoy them. I would never had known about her if I didn't read about her on this forum.

I appreciate everyone's opinion, as it helps me to get a productive and varied workout at home. I am now purchasing a video a week almost, and though I'm poorer, that's a good thing, because it keeps my interest piqued and I get up in the morning looking forward to my workouts, and it keeps me occupied while I'm waiting for Cathe's new tapes!!
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oh, my. . .

I told you that I have a borrowed copy of 2K02. Well, I also have a borrowed copy of BodyMax!! I am not the amazon that you guys are. Just wanted to let you know that if I don't post anymore, you will know that I have killed myself attempting these tapes!

I am SO intimidated. . .

Wish me luck! (boy am I gonna need it!!)
 
Rah, Rah, Rah!!!

Just cheering you on Susan!! You can do it. We'll be waiting (HOPEFULLY) to hear from you!
 
I agree...

...you can do it, and you may decide you like it the best. I was totally intimidated then so exhilarated when I finished BMax the first time! Take your time, do it at your level and have fun...
 
Miss P, you are an AMAZON, too!

In my humble, worthless opinion anyone who has the guts to try a Cathe tape is an Amazon! I have Bodymax, but haven't done it yet. I don't think I'll attempt the entire tape.....just up to the upper body weights part. I'd like to try it on Saturday.....think I'll actually do it?
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I keep writing it in my schedule and erase it when the time comes and write in a substitution. Silly!

JUST DO IT, right?!
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I can do it and so can you.
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TRY IT...Susan & Honeybunch!

..YOU'LL LIKE IT!!!! Seriously, BodyMax is one of my favorite tapes I've ever had. I never grow tired of it. You can start off with lighter weight then Cathe uses but I bet you'll surprise yourself. Honeybunch, if you can keep up with Billy, you can do BodyMax. Let us know you two. We'll be waiting for your post on Sunday!
 
Gym Workouts

In my city, the gym workouts just don't cut it. I haven't the time to drive to a gym, etc., I tend to be introverted and use my workouts to recharge since I have a very public job. Also, most of the workouts tend to be geared to less advanced exercisers. Then there's the fact that most of their operational times aren't good for me. For a variety of factors, I prefer fitness videos (DVDs). Oh yes, gyms are expensive and some instructors aren't very good.

If I waited to go to a gym, I would never workout. Thank heavens for Cathe's targeting the needs of advanced home exercisers.
 
well, I tried it!!

Got a good taste of BodyMax today! I couldn't do the upper body part because I just did PS-CST yesterday. . . gee what a shame!!
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It is TOUGH TOUGH TOUGH!! I am not an intensity junkie so I wouldn't say I thought it was fun, but I do love that heel-toe/diagonal across/jack thing that she does in Step Heat that I also found here in BodyMax!! I will have to do it again to decide if I like it or not. . . I think I did. But like I said, I am not an intensity junkie so it really seemed hard to me, too hard to be fun. Which can be a good thing, some days you need to PUSH and is Body Max a push or what?????
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How 'bout you, honeybunch?? Give it a go!!
 

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