Autoimmunity: A major women's health issue

ellesan

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To put it mildly, my life has recently been turned upside down by autoimmune disease. I never knew how widespread these diseases are and how they effect so many women in so many ways. I am determined to fight this and help educate and empower anyone else going through this extremely overwhelming and frustrating rollercoaster ride. I know this article is long, but very worthwhile read. I plan to start a support group here under "social groups" for those of us dealing with autoimmune disease or with symptoms with a focus on staying fit and healthy and positive.

Sandra

Taken from www.aarda.org:

Named a major women's health issue by the Office of Research on Women's Health at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), autoimmunity is the underlying cause of more than 100 serious, chronic illnesses. It targets women 75 percent of the time.

The term "autoimmune disease" refers to a varied group of illnesses that involve almost every human organ system. It includes diseases of the nervous, gastrointestinal, and endocrine systems, as well as skin and other connective tissues, eyes, blood and blood vessels. In all of these diseases, the underlying problem is similar - the body's immune system becomes misdirected and attacks the very organs it was designed to protect. The fact that women have enhanced immune systems compared to men increases women's resistance to many types of infection, but also makes them more susceptible to autoimmune diseases.

Taken together, autoimmune diseases strike women three times more than men. Some diseases have an even higher incidence in women. In fact, of the 50 million Americans living with autoimmunity, 30 million people are women, some estimates say. Autoimmune diseases have been cited in the top ten leading causes of all deaths among U.S. women age 65 and younger. Moreover, these diseases represent the fourth largest cause of disability among women in the United States.

Even though there is some universally accepted knowledge about autoimmunity, its victims -- mainly women -- have suffered from a lack of focus and a scattered research approach. For example, autoimmunity is known to have a genetic component and tends to cluster in families as different autoimmune diseases. In some families, a mother may have lupus; her son, juvenile diabetes; her sister, antiphospholipid syndrome; and her grandmother, rheumatoid arthritis.

Getting a proper diagnosis is sometimes as difficult as living with the disease itself. Victims face problems not only because physicians often don't think of autoimmunity, but also because of who they are, namely, women in the childbearing years. As a rule, this is a time in a woman's life when she looks healthy, though looks can be deceiving. Often, women who suffer from autoimmune diseases are not taken seriously when they first begin consulting their doctors. A woman's symptoms are likely to be vague in the beginning, with a tendency to come and go, and hard to describe accurately to her physician. In a typical scenario, she is often shunted from specialist to specialist and forced to undergo a battery of tests and procedures before a correct diagnosis is made, which can sometimes take years.

According to a 2001 survey by the Autoimmune Diseases Association, over 45 percent of patients with autoimmune diseases have been labeled chronic complainers in the earliest stages of their illness. This can be devastating to a young woman who may then begin to question her sanity as she tries desperately to find out what is wrong. Tragically, many of these patients suffer significant damage to their organs in the meantime and end up carrying this health burden with them for the rest of their lives because of the delay in diagnosis.

If the public, particularly women, and medical practitioners were more aware of the genetic predisposition to develop autoimmune disease, clearly there would be more emphasis on taking a medical history regarding autoimmune diseases within the family when presented by a patient with confusing symptoms. Earlier screening of these diseases could not only prevent significant and lifelong health problems but also actually prevent some autoimmune diseases.
 
Hi Sandra,

The information you posted was excellent.

Is the group you are starting going to be in the check-in forum? Or is there another area on the Cathe site?

Please be sure to let me know where it will be and when you are starting it.

Annie
 
Thanks for the article Sandra. I also have an auto-immune disease. Even tho some days are tough, I have always kept that attitude that I have to deal with it continue on. I am a mom, and no matter how crappy how I feel, I still gotta be a mom :)
 
I'm sorry for the frustration that many of you must have/are going through with autoimmune issues. One of my best friends was just diagnosed last week with an autoimmune disease; I'll forward this to her.
 
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Hi Sandra,

Thank you so much for posting this information. One of my friends has been battling this disease for the last three years. I will send a link to this thread to her. I wish you all the best in your fight with this disease and good luck with your noble endeavor.
 
Thank you for being so proactive Sandra!
Autoimmune diseases run all through my family and are THE major motivation for me to keep my diet under control.
 
My sister has an undiagnosed issue that has frustrated her for a long time. Her symptoms are very Lupus-like, but her bloodwork keeps coming back negative. To make matters worse, she doesn't take very good care of herself. This exacerbates her symptoms, and her docs keep trying different medications with no luck. One suggested she look into her diet, which I think is an excellent idea ~ it can't hurt ~ but she's noncompliant.

DH has Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, and his mother has MS.

Our 13 y/o daughter is showing early signs of Lupus, but her bloodwork is fine, and she only has 2 of the listed criteria currently required for a diagnosis. She's also showing some mottling of her skin ~ it's really funky. We're hoping this is just her, and that her body isn't reving up for a Lupus diagnosis down the road, but we can't help but be suspicious.

The China Study has a chapter on Autoimmune diseases and a possible connection to diet. I'd love to try some serious dietary changes with DH and DD, but I have to be careful. Both are pretty stuck in their ways, and I'm certain to meet with resistance. DD watches what I eat though, and she sometimes floats along in my direction on her own.

I wish you much luck with your diagnosis, Ellesan. May you find good health. :)
 
Hi

The more I read about autoimmune diseases and their impact on the body the more I realize that there are so many diseases that are interrelated and could lead to better diagnosis if the correlations where better known.
There are alot of autoimmune diseases in my family. My uncle has MS and my grandmother has rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroidism. I was just recently diagnosed with celiac disease... I managed to figure this one out on my own and went the the doctors with it. I am positive that my grandmother has celiac as well but has never been diagnosed. Perhaps if the Rheumatoid specialist got together with the thyroid specialist and the family doctor they might put it all together. From the stories that she tells it is pretty clear that she was celiac all her life and perhaps if she had know and was able to avoid gluten she would have been able to avoid the rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroidism. It takes on average 11 years in Canada to get finally diagnosed with celiac disease. That's a long time to have your body attacking itself and causing alot of damage. I count myself lucky that it only took 4 years. I am sure that it would have taken longer if I had not been desperate and was searching the internet. Having been following the gluten free diet now for over year there are some really remarkable changes, all for the better.

I think having a check in would be great.
Heather
 
The China Study has a chapter on Autoimmune diseases and a possible connection to diet. I'd love to try some serious dietary changes with DH and DD, but I have to be careful. Both are pretty stuck in their ways, and I'm certain to meet with resistance. DD watches what I eat though, and she sometimes floats along in my direction on her own.

I wish you much luck with your diagnosis, Ellesan. May you find good health. :)

I was going to refer to The China Study yet again but I am glad you did, Lori, as I am starting to sound like I am salesperson for the book :eek:

I do believe that whereas we may have a genetic predisposition for many diseases it will depend on if other factors if the gene will be expressed or not. I don't remember where I heard it but someone had mentioned that xyz disease runs in his/her family and the response was that you don't need to run with it. I think this is really true!

I think nutrition plays a much bigger role in many diseases than previously thought and the Standard American Diet is just not very health inducing. I read studies that as much as 90 % of diseases can be prevented by diet and lifestyle.

I have the same problem as you with my DH but I am hoping that eventually with baby steps things will change. My kids are kind of curious about the food I am eating and will try everything. I guess I will find out what they like and what they don't as we go along. At least they have always been eating salads, fruit and veggies.

Ellesan, I am very impressed with your quest of educating people about autoimmune disorders! It's not an easy task and you probably will run into many roadblocks as I noticed when getting really involved in cancer and cancer research but it is worth it! Good luck with your diagnosis, please keep us posted how you are doing! Best of health to you and everyone who is suffering with health issues.
 
Carola, I can't thank you enough for mentioning The China Study. :) It's a great read and full of eye-opening information. I hope more studies come out and continue to validate Campbell's findings, otherwise people are likely to blow off his work as the rantings of a health nut.

I dropped dairy from my diet 2 weeks ago and have been doing really well. I started reading about the vegan diet and haven't had any problems finding food I like. Finding food that likes me, ahem...beans, is another issue. :D I've been bloated for the last 3 days (bean salad) and feel like the human Hindenburg!

Our carnivore husbands may never get on board, but we can sneak stuff in here and there. I made vegan cupcakes today, and DH has never met a cupcake he didn't like. :rolleyes: He's letting me add more vegetables to his diet, which is new. He actually ate bok choy for me two nights ago. Plus when he complained of a sore throat, I casually mentioned eating an orange for the Vitamin C (whether or not that directly helps, I don't care...it's an orange...it's good for him), and he ate that too. I was stunned.

Your kids are way ahead of mine in the fruit and veggie department. Mine will sometimes humor me and eat part of an apple or some broccoli, but that's about it. They'd rather eat crackers.
 
Ellesan,

Thanks for the excellent article. I have MS- which is an auto-immune disease of the central nervous system. It is true that there are many dieases that fall under this category, which is sort of exciting in a way. Auto-immune diseases range anywhere from arthritis, alhzheimers, MS, Lupus, Scleraderma and tons and tons more. Now the good thing is that many of these diseases effect enough of the population and because of that they will get attention by Medical research and pharmaceutical companies for research. Auto immune diseases may vary but the one thing they all have in common is that the body systems will start attacking certain tissues. In this respect auto immune disases are by nature hyper immune systems. It is this research on these various auto immune diseases that can lead to a discovery of a disease modification drug therapy or even a partial or total cure. Often times researches find that one medication they are working on is more effective for a completely different auto immune disease, so this is the good thing. I'm lucky that I have MS because it is effecting enough people that it can't be ignored now and research is fast and furious on improving current disease modifying drugs or even a cure. This is so exciting. I know that even some already F.D.A. approved drugs used for different things such as Novatrone, which is actually a chemo therapy type drug is effective treatment for some that have a more aggressive form of MS. I think auto immune diseases are the weirdest in terms of symptoms when it first presents itself that doctors can easily not see the big picture. I was lucky my GP knew that very few things caused dizzyness and loss of motor control and balance for walking. At first we suspected vertigo but I didn't feel dizzy or off balance until I tried to walk. So, that indicated there was something neurological going on and he ordered an MRI, which needed further consultation for me at a hospital that had a MS Treatment center. Even after the MRI, Spinal tap, etc... It still took until about a year later before I was officially diagnosed. My doctor and I felt that after snowballing relapses that I needed to begin treatment ASAP to slow down the progression of my disease and damage being done. So, I began my journey of taking Avonex. I have to inject it in my thigh once a week. Its been about three years or so and I've been on Avonex and my relapses have stopped, but the original nerve damage remains from before Avonex. Twenty years ago disease modifying drugs like Avonex did not exist whatsoever for people with MS, you were basically told to go home and pick out a nice wheel chair and home hospital bed. That is not the case now at all, for which I'm deeply grateful. So, that just shows that Help is either here or just around the corner. I definitely want to see cures for all the auto immune diseases. I'm doing what I can to improve my health and staying physically active. My neurologist agreed with me that with MS you need to move it or you may lose it. Not, something that is an option in my opinion so I workout like Catheite possessed!:p

Long story, short research is ongoing and cures if not ways to better manage symptoms and slow down progression of these autoimmune disease is very encouraging. I think that having MS is sort of like being thrust into a marathon, your overwhelmed in a state of panic but you begin to realize that if you can just make yourself move and only worry about what is immediately infront of you it is possible to handle this marathon. You may not beable to run it, but the goal is to get through it the best you can any way you can and not give up! That's my motto, anyways.;)

Hugs!!

Nora
 
Thanks to everyone for their well-wishes and for passing along this info. Education is so important and knowledge is power!

Thanks for mentioning the China Study, I will check it out. I definitely think diet is HUGE in controlling/preventing many (not all) diseases. I tested negative for Celiac disease but I am still eating gluten-free and soy-free now(except for a few foods with soy lecithin) and have taken out all artificial sweeteners. I am willing to try anything to stop these symptoms and the progression of any disease. This has been a frightening experience to say the least but I hope to turn it into something positive. I have been diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis (after an acute attack that brought on MANY symptoms) and now I'm being tested for MS.

All the best to you and your family. I hope your daughter does not continue to show signs of Lupus and your sister can find out what is going on.

Sandra



My sister has an undiagnosed issue that has frustrated her for a long time. Her symptoms are very Lupus-like, but her bloodwork keeps coming back negative. To make matters worse, she doesn't take very good care of herself. This exacerbates her symptoms, and her docs keep trying different medications with no luck. One suggested she look into her diet, which I think is an excellent idea ~ it can't hurt ~ but she's noncompliant.

DH has Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, and his mother has MS.

Our 13 y/o daughter is showing early signs of Lupus, but her bloodwork is fine, and she only has 2 of the listed criteria currently required for a diagnosis. She's also showing some mottling of her skin ~ it's really funky. We're hoping this is just her, and that her body isn't reving up for a Lupus diagnosis down the road, but we can't help but be suspicious.

The China Study has a chapter on Autoimmune diseases and a possible connection to diet. I'd love to try some serious dietary changes with DH and DD, but I have to be careful. Both are pretty stuck in their ways, and I'm certain to meet with resistance. DD watches what I eat though, and she sometimes floats along in my direction on her own.

I wish you much luck with your diagnosis, Ellesan. May you find good health. :)
 
Nora, thank you so much for this info and encouragement. You have a great attitude and I'm so happy you're doing well. :)

Since being diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (due to an acute attack from a medication I NEVER should have been given), I am now also being tested for MS. It is VERY overwhelming physically, emotionally, mentally and financially. I am having a spinal tap (lumbar pucture) on Monday and in less than two weeks I'm having my thyroid removed due to compressive goiter. I keep hoping to wake up from this nightmare.

Three months ago I was healthy, in the best shape of my life. I had lost 80 pounds (100 pounds total) and got certified as a personal trainer. I was just starting my new business when all of this started. I went from exercising 5 days a week and lifting heavy and being able to walk/jog for 45-60 minutes to not even being able to walk 5 minutes on the treadmill without extreme knee joint pain. I couldn't even lift 1/2 the weight I used to.

With medication and some time, the past weeks have been a little better with energy and stamina, but I still have bad days. Like you, I realize the importance of healthy eating and exercise, so it's hard not to get depressed that I cannot exercise like I used to.

After my tests and surgery, I hope to recover quickly and get back to my healthy lifestyle and keep moving on. I like your visual of the marathon.

Thanks so much!
Sandra


Ellesan,
I'm doing what I can to improve my health and staying physically active. My neurologist agreed with me that with MS you need to move it or you may lose it. Not, something that is an option in my opinion so I workout like Catheite possessed!:p

Long story, short research is ongoing and cures if not ways to better manage symptoms and slow down progression of these autoimmune disease is very encouraging. I think that having MS is sort of like being thrust into a marathon, your overwhelmed in a state of panic but you begin to realize that if you can just make yourself move and only worry about what is immediately infront of you it is possible to handle this marathon. You may not beable to run it, but the goal is to get through it the best you can any way you can and not give up! That's my motto, anyways.;)

Hugs!!

Nora
 
Heather, wow! I can't believe it took so long to get a diagnosis! That is awful. I am so glad you are now feeling a lot better. I tested negative for Celiac, but I do have it in my extended family and now that I'm diagnosed with 1 and maybe 2 autoimmune diseases, it can't hurt for me to eat gluten-free, which I have just started this week. It's been going well but I can't tell a difference yet in my symptoms.

Sandra

Hi

The more I read about autoimmune diseases and their impact on the body the more I realize that there are so many diseases that are interrelated and could lead to better diagnosis if the correlations where better known.
There are alot of autoimmune diseases in my family. My uncle has MS and my grandmother has rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroidism. I was just recently diagnosed with celiac disease... I managed to figure this one out on my own and went the the doctors with it. I am positive that my grandmother has celiac as well but has never been diagnosed. Perhaps if the Rheumatoid specialist got together with the thyroid specialist and the family doctor they might put it all together. From the stories that she tells it is pretty clear that she was celiac all her life and perhaps if she had know and was able to avoid gluten she would have been able to avoid the rheumatoid arthritis and hypothyroidism. It takes on average 11 years in Canada to get finally diagnosed with celiac disease. That's a long time to have your body attacking itself and causing alot of damage. I count myself lucky that it only took 4 years. I am sure that it would have taken longer if I had not been desperate and was searching the internet. Having been following the gluten free diet now for over year there are some really remarkable changes, all for the better.

I think having a check in would be great.
Heather
 
Carola, thanks for the info and support, I really appreciate it!

Ellesan, I am very impressed with your quest of educating people about autoimmune disorders! It's not an easy task and you probably will run into many roadblocks as I noticed when getting really involved in cancer and cancer research but it is worth it! Good luck with your diagnosis, please keep us posted how you are doing! Best of health to you and everyone who is suffering with health issues.
 
Ellesan,

I wish you all the best with all that you have coming up healthwise. I hope that things will stabilize for you and that you get some answers as to what's going on and what to do to help. I found it was the not knowing what was going on and thinking I had a brain tumor that freaked me out. I was relieved when my GP said that my MRI did show that was not what was going on. Phew! My uncle had terminal brain cancer at the time so that info was a relief to rule that out.

Please let us know how things go for you, ok. Even feel free to pm me.
Thanks again for the great information. Your so right about auto immune diseases hitting women the hardest. Here's one of the links I have saved as a bookmark that has good info. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/index.html
and http://www.mayoclinic.com/ I often visit the MS site
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/index.aspx or even webmd.com.
Hang in there ok, I know this is frustrating but don't let it define or hinder you. ;)

Many Hugs, and feel free to PM me or instant message me.;)


Nora
 
I also recommend "Eat To Live" by Dr. Joel Fuhrman. He has specific diet instructions, newsletters and information for dealing with and improving auto immune diseases. He claims impressive results. Here is an example of one of his newsletter articles:

"Nutritional Care of Autoimmune Diseases, Using the power of nutritional excellence to achieve dramatic recovery!"

and

"Drugs for Autoimmune Disease: Huge risks associated with Remicade, Methotrexate, Plaquenil, Imuran, Cytoxan, Arava, Enbrel and Humira"

He also has portions of his book devoted to this subject.

Ellesan, please private message me with your e-mail address if you would like me to e-mail you a copy of this particular newsletter. It is normally accessed through part of his paid website, but I can e-mail it to you so you can see if you might be interested in his information. I tried to post it as an attachment, but it is too large of a file.

Thanks,
Monica
 
Eat To Live is another good book ~ excellent recommendation.

Sandra, whatever you do, don't give up. My MIL did just that. She gave up completely and is now miserable, depressed, physically weak, and so full of various drugs that she can't take even the slightest over-the-counter pill without fearing some kind of negative reaction.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying she could be sailing right through her MS symptoms, but she certainly isn't helping herself. What's worse is that she has relapsing-remitting MS, which means she has periods where her symptoms get better. She could use that time to work on making her body and mind stronger, but she doesn't. She doesn't fight it at all.

On the flip side, I've read about people who, if given the chance to fight back, they do. And they benefit greatly. The disease doesn't disappear, but the symptoms can be greatly reduced and quality of life maintained.

Go into this kicking and screaming! :)
 
Nora,yes the biggest thing for me is the fear of the unknown. Once I know what I'm dealing with I know it will be ok and I will fight it, whatever it is.

Thank you for the links, I will check them out. I think what most stood out to me about your post was saying "don't let it define you." I guess that's what is hard right now because I don't even know what "it" is, besides the thyroid. I'm sure it takes time to understand and live with a disease but not BE the disease. Whatever it is, I do NOT want it to define me!!

Thanks so much for the support. :)

Sandra
Ellesan,

I wish you all the best with all that you have coming up healthwise. I hope that things will stabilize for you and that you get some answers as to what's going on and what to do to help. I found it was the not knowing what was going on and thinking I had a brain tumor that freaked me out. I was relieved when my GP said that my MRI did show that was not what was going on. Phew! My uncle had terminal brain cancer at the time so that info was a relief to rule that out.

Please let us know how things go for you, ok. Even feel free to pm me.
Thanks again for the great information. Your so right about auto immune diseases hitting women the hardest. Here's one of the links I have saved as a bookmark that has good info. http://www.ninds.nih.gov/index.html
and http://www.mayoclinic.com/ I often visit the MS site
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/index.aspx or even webmd.com.
Hang in there ok, I know this is frustrating but don't let it define or hinder you. ;)

Many Hugs, and feel free to PM me or instant message me.;)


Nora
 
Lori, you are so right!! I am a fighter and will never give up. I might have bad days, but there are always good days around the corner. Thank goodness for some good sleep, it helps put things in perspective for sure. I will keep fighting!! Thanks for the support.

Kicking and screaming :cool:

Sandra

Eat To Live is another good book ~ excellent recommendation.

Sandra, whatever you do, don't give up. My MIL did just that. She gave up completely and is now miserable, depressed, physically weak, and so full of various drugs that she can't take even the slightest over-the-counter pill without fearing some kind of negative reaction.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying she could be sailing right through her MS symptoms, but she certainly isn't helping herself. What's worse is that she has relapsing-remitting MS, which means she has periods where her symptoms get better. She could use that time to work on making her body and mind stronger, but she doesn't. She doesn't fight it at all.

On the flip side, I've read about people who, if given the chance to fight back, they do. And they benefit greatly. The disease doesn't disappear, but the symptoms can be greatly reduced and quality of life maintained.

Go into this kicking and screaming! :)
 

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