I am puzzled why people would question her getting a boob job "at her age"? I am not criticizing these posters but I am just curious about that comment. Is it becaues women in their 40s and older are assumed not to care as much about their appearance? If she had gotten a boob job in her 20s would that make it more acceptable? Again, not wanting to stir up a controversy, just curious if that's the perception.
Anyone heard of KAREN VOIGHT?
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ldy_solana
Cathlete
i have several of her workouts i have no problem with her or her boobs b/c its not like she is flashing them.
i rather enjoy her workouts. no they are not cathe but i still enjoy them to mix up my intensity levels and her strength training is way way different then normal strength routines. they have a grace about them which i like since i am no ballerina but i can feel graceful with the movements she chooses.
i don't compare i just see them as their own different style then other workouts and i enjoy them for that.
kassia
i rather enjoy her workouts. no they are not cathe but i still enjoy them to mix up my intensity levels and her strength training is way way different then normal strength routines. they have a grace about them which i like since i am no ballerina but i can feel graceful with the movements she chooses.
i don't compare i just see them as their own different style then other workouts and i enjoy them for that.
kassia
kathryn
Cathlete
I think that's what bothered me as well.
And perhaps my own equating fitness with health, and my perception that going through major surgery to have artificial things implanted in ones body doesn't seem to jibe with a healthy lifestyle. (Also, I still see plastic surgery as a way of 'correcting something that is wrong or a deformity,' and don't like the message that having small breasts is wrong or some sort of deformity.
Ffte
Cathlete
I liked her GWW which was pre-boob job and I still pull it out once in a while. I agree she was a bit stiff, but it was the two male background exercisers that creeped me out.
As far as the boob job goes, I personally would have given her mine in a heartbeat, but whatever
. The grass is always greener. I've always liked the small sleeker look myself. It allows you to wear low cut tight fitting cloths and look sexy and sophisticated instead of trampy, but again, that's just me, ya know grass greener and all.
kathryn
Cathlete
For me, it's not the age thing at all (but I interpret that statement as meaning "if she wanted to do it, why wait so long"? But I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth... since I have enough problems with my own words at times!)
I'm puzzled about the statement about "not caring as much about their appearance." Again, it implies that there is something wrong in the appearance of someone with small breasts, that she got implants because she 'cared about her appearance".
I'm not 100% able to articulate why it bothers me, but this plastic surgery society we seem to live in is somewhat disturbing to me. The fact that so many women get breast enhancements (even younger women who might get one as a 'graduation gift".) rather than accepting the way they are and finding beauty in that (this doesn't include surgery to repair breasts lost through mastectomies, or surgery to even out uneven sizing).
It just makes me think we aren't progressing in terms of appreciating people and ourselves for more than the physical, or at accepting a variety of physical looks as attractive.
And I know many women say they get the procedure done "for themselves" and not because of anyone else, but they are still doing it to conform to an idea of what is attractive as woman in our society, or because something makes them feel that they would look better with larger breasts, and I can't believe there is some innate sense telling them that. (I'm again feeling unsure of how to express this, and wish I could articulate it better).
RapidBreath
Cathlete
I have that tape. I don't think I ever saw it on DVD.
LauraMax
Cathlete
I've considered it several times in the past & frankly still am thinking about it. I can only speak for myself when I say my smallness makes me feel boyish & less feminine, & really almost like a deformity. I guess that's a product of our society, but it doesn't change the fact that it's how I feel.
But I have other, more important things to spend my money on, & good quality padding helps w/the body image.
But I have other, more important things to spend my money on, & good quality padding helps w/the body image.
Boingo1
Cathlete
I have her Ultimate Cicuit Training, which I enjoyed, haven't done in a long time though. I'd say it was more intermediete. It was step and weights and stability ball.
You're right, though, haven't seen anything by her in a long time. I wonder where she is and what she's doing?
As far as the boob job, I think whatever an individual is comfortable with is what is right. For me, I like my smaller top for various reasons. I wear a nice VS bra to make me look a little more filled out in a snug top, and I'm good. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with a boob job. And I will admit, I will comment to my friends and family ABOUT someone who has obviously gotten one. I think because it's a change in their appearance. But not because I'm making fun of them.
it's just the same as someone who has a reduction, no?
You're right, though, haven't seen anything by her in a long time. I wonder where she is and what she's doing?
As far as the boob job, I think whatever an individual is comfortable with is what is right. For me, I like my smaller top for various reasons. I wear a nice VS bra to make me look a little more filled out in a snug top, and I'm good. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable with a boob job. And I will admit, I will comment to my friends and family ABOUT someone who has obviously gotten one. I think because it's a change in their appearance. But not because I'm making fun of them.
it's just the same as someone who has a reduction, no?
janie1234
Cathlete
Karen was my very, very first home workout VHS. I loved her Great Weighted Workout it is really hard! I did all her workouts till I found Cathe I think Karen has great form and a beautiful body but I was surprised she got the boobies done. Her body was absolutely beautiful before. I only stopped doing her workouts because I didn't like the music and I felt that they were not as hard as Cathe's.
janie1234
Cathlete
ditto that. Those leotards they were wearing were just a big fat fashion don't even during those times. My husband always laughs when I do this workout because he can't believe that a guy would wear something like that.
About the boob discussion.
I'm not against it in any way. I've recently quit breastfeeding my second child, and I went from a D to a B, and oh how I wish I could have my perfect, perky boobs back! I didn't know how perfect they used to be until they were gone! But actually, I enjoy the size of them better now. I can do more of the activities that I want to do, and I can wear the clothes that I want to wear without looking like a porn star now! I don't see anything wrong with getting your boobs done, as long as it's tastefully done. With Karen, I think she just misjudged the size a little, and it was very distracting to be greeted by Karen AND the two girls. They just didn't fit her graceful, ballerina-type body, IMO.
dani
I'm not against it in any way. I've recently quit breastfeeding my second child, and I went from a D to a B, and oh how I wish I could have my perfect, perky boobs back! I didn't know how perfect they used to be until they were gone!
But actually, I enjoy the size of them better now. I can do more of the activities that I want to do, and I can wear the clothes that I want to wear without looking like a porn star now! I don't see anything wrong with getting your boobs done, as long as it's tastefully done. With Karen, I think she just misjudged the size a little, and it was very distracting to be greeted by Karen AND the two girls. They just didn't fit her graceful, ballerina-type body, IMO.dani
kathryn
Cathlete
I found the guy in sweat headband and glasses kind of creepy (or maybe just very dated?)
multisportgirl
Active Member
LOL!!! You guys are taking me back!!! I started with Karen and I agree she had/has a beautiful body! Pre or post boob job. My favorite from her was Strong and Smooth Moves. There was a guy on the called Cappucino ummm....something. I thought he was a trip!! His makes a face at one point in the video (I believe she was doing plyo digs) that I laughed out loud the first time I saw him make it. She's too easy for me now too, but for sentimental reasons, I haven't given away her tapes......Go Figure....?
kathryn
Cathlete
Back to Karen's workouts:
I always thought she did great ab and tricep work: my abs and tris usually felt well worked after a session with her. But she had/has a tendency to use 1 size weight in her resistance workouts, and the same weight for tricep kickbacks as for lat rows, sometimes transitioning between the moves so quickly that there was no time to change weights. That's one thing she never seemed to change.
This thread is making me want to go back and do some of her workouts (Ënergy Sprint, that other one that looks like it's filmed in a dark warehouse, Great Weighted Workout).
I always thought she did great ab and tricep work: my abs and tris usually felt well worked after a session with her. But she had/has a tendency to use 1 size weight in her resistance workouts, and the same weight for tricep kickbacks as for lat rows, sometimes transitioning between the moves so quickly that there was no time to change weights. That's one thing she never seemed to change.
This thread is making me want to go back and do some of her workouts (Ënergy Sprint, that other one that looks like it's filmed in a dark warehouse, Great Weighted Workout).
kathryn
Cathlete
That's the one I was thinking of.
Energy Sprint! That's the one I have! (I couldn't remember). I don't have the space to do that one any more, but remember liking it (as an avowed cardio-hater, that's saying something). I think it's because of the timed bursts, and with the timer countdown thing on screen you know exactly how much longer you have to do something. Hmm - maybe I'll try to work that one in one of these days and work out the space issue!
nancy324
Cathlete
I know I'm a bit old-fashioned, but I agree. I generally see fitness and implants as being a bit contradictory when the implants are on a woman who was gorgeous before she got them, like Karen Voight. I can understand correcting an imperfection, like a nose that's too big for your face or something, but I don't understand an already beautiful woman trying to turn herself into a Barbie doll, especially when her field is health and fitness. Just doesn't work for me.
I think Nancy's phrase "correcting an imperfection" is a key phrase. I think for some women with smaller chests they do consider that to be an imperfection, I believe one of the posters on this thread said she thought of herself that way because her chest measurement was small. And some people with bigger noses may be just fine with their noses, and not consider them to be imperfections, whereas others may truly be unhappy with their noses, or their breasts, or their whatevers. Everyone perceives everything differently. I am happy being a size 12-14 whereas others would consider that to be an unacceptable size and would be busy trying to grow smaller. Elizabeth Hurley famously said if she were as "fat" as Marilyn Monroe she'd kill herself. (Jokingly, of course.) So I believe that it's up to each person to decide what they want to change on themselves, and how they want to change it, and it's better not to judge those changes.