A wee philosophical moment...

morningstar

Cathlete
I was reading KBlover's post and found myself thinking about the nature of Catheites. My thoughts didn't really correspond directly to her post, so I didn't want to hijack her thread by posting there.

I think people who gravitate to Cathe have big dreams and goals, and are willing to work hard to get there. The flip side of that is that we expect a tremendous amount from ourselves, don't take excuses for answers and are sometimes quite harsh with ourselves when we don't live up to our own extremely high standards. Perhaps we tend to live to extremes more than the general population and our interest in an instructor as hardcore as Cathe (and Shaun T and AOS, etc.) fits our need to challenge ourselves in a way that less intense instructors don't.

When I was young, I came up with this motto, and it still rings true to me:

Human beings live best in moderation, but they are at their most human when living to extremes.

In other words, a balanced lifestyle, with varied interests and an even attitude toward life will allow us to live happier lives, but it is when we are putting everything we have into something (loving fiercely beyond all reason, sky diving, running an ultra marathon, working day and night for years to find a cure for cancer, sinking to the depths of depression over a relationship that didn't work out...) that we are really alive and exploding through life in that uniquely human way, even if we are absolutely miserable doing it.

When you are living in moderation, you will probably overall have a happier life, but you may never experience how the intense lows make the exploding highs that much sweeter.

Me, I aim for balance and moderation. My life circumstances have led me to a personality that favours extremes and I tend to live in an unbalanced way. So one of my goals is to find the beauty in consistency and evenness and the strength in solidity, leaving behind the tsunamis and hurricanes. I no longer work to create drama in my life; I would happily settle for peace.

How about you?
 
One of my favorite quotes, and I think it applies to money, life experience, etc. is :

"Happiness is a place between too little and too much." (can't remember who)

I think it sounds just like what you're saying!
 
Me, I aim for balance and moderation. My life circumstances have led me to a personality that favours extremes and I tend to live in an unbalanced way. So one of my goals is to find the beauty in consistency and evenness and the strength in solidity, leaving behind the tsunamis and hurricanes. I no longer work to create drama in my life; I would happily settle for peace.

How about you?

I think a lot of us here favor the extremes. To me a Cathe workout is no walk in the park. We want to be pushed and we like the feeling of accomplishment of being able to say "Yeah I can do that."
I completely agree with you that it can cause an unbalanced way of living. 6 months ago I had an eye opening experience when my mother in law died. A week before she died (from lung cancer) she told me that she would give anything to be able to eat a cookie, . . and how she wasted her entire life not living to the fullest and always putting herself on a diet. It scared me and made me think about why I work out so hard and if it was preventing me from enjoying the small things in life like eating a cookie or a burger. I would always beat myself up for doing that or missing a workout and when my MIL died I asked why?
Well, six months later with very little exercise and a huge break from fitness and exercise I realize that this lifestyle does not make me happy either.
It is about finding a balance. I walk my dog 3 times a day and lift weights 3 days a week, mountain bike and jog. I eat what I like in moderation and make my food myself so I know what is in it. I pick foods that are as natural as possible, with little sugar, salt, or preservatives. Mostly I've learned to love myself, my scars, my belly, and my strength.
 
for me it's about this:

"Be Here Now"

a mindful approach to life & living, I read some very enlightening books about mindfulness, it's a work in progress...


Linda:)
these smilies just aren't big enough are they?
 
I lived my life in fear of my own shadow, conforming to what everyone else wanted me to be and of me for way too long. I live to experience everything and anything I can! If it means extreme disappointment, crying myself to sleep sometimes and being completely disgusted with myself on occasion, so be it! At least when I try something hard or new, I'll know I gave it everything I had. If I'm successful, all the sweeter! If I fail, then that's just one more thing I tried and can say it just wasn't for me. I know way too many people who always say they wish they had done this or that or are regretful about their lives.

Not me! Not ever again! I love my life and doing all kinds of things even if I'm afraid of it!

Have some peace for me Morningstar, I'll be riding on the next rocket into the deep, vacuum of space someday!
 
Human beings live best in moderation, but they are at their most human when living to extremes.

it is when we are putting everything we have into something ... sinking to the depths of depression ... that we are really alive and exploding through life

It is an interesting idea Morningstar.

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with this one point however. Having suffered depression and thought about vacating this life on more than one occasion, and now dealing with my eldest child who is currently surrendering to clinical depression and consequently, going through the motions of life, I can tell you 100% guaranteed that a person sinking to the depths of depression is in fact doing the very opposite of what you claim. They are not exploding through life and not, in fact, living at all. Depression is, more than anything, a death in life. Even if the rewards later on may be great highs and rejoicing, I still would not wish the depths of depression on anyone. We don't need deep depression to appreciate the joys in certain moments of life.

The best definition of living through extremes of life, alternating through highs and lows, is bi-polar depression and that is not something that I would wish on anyone either.

I am not stating that your words were dangerous, or that you advocate misery as a way of appreciating joy, only that there are other ways of looking at "living through extremes."

There's a lot to be said for moderation and hogging the middle ground and I find myself gravitating more towards it as I get older, just for some peace of mind.

It's good to think about these things occasionally, so thanks Morningstar for your post.

Clare
 

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