254 lb 7 year old

janie1234

Cathlete
Have you seen this? Do you feel that a 254lb 7 year should be taken away from their mother?
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I hate to say this but from the video you can tell that mom is overweight and I'm hard pressed to believe that she is not feeding him a bunch a crap. I truly believe that food can be viewed as a deadly weapon.
By the way did you see the list of crap she's feeding him? 4 eggs for breakfast, . . vienna sausages?
 
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Hard to say, but probably not.

First, tests should be done to see if he has some condition that causes him to be that overweight.

Then, if he does have a condition, the mother should be taught how to deal with it.

If he doesn't have a condition, then the mother should be educated about healthy eating (for both herself and her son).

The mother does seem willing to learn what to do to help her son. Maybe she's just ignorant about healthy eating (as most Americans are). Looking at the list of the foods he eats, it seems like she's trying ("diet coke") and probably thinks the food he's getting is "healthy".
 
well one shot of the notebook of food intake slice of cheese, vienna sausage. well i think that can go. processed no nutritional value crap(how anyway can eat meat in a can is beyond me but okay). i am sure she is trying but maybe unaware of the QUALITY of food not just the quantity which is sounds like what she is focusing more on. she needs to put more value in the quality. plus she never mentioned if a doctor had a comment on this. maybe its medical in part with the food??

i'd say educate her and get that kid to a doctor then go from there.

kassia
 
Well if the mom is sincere then someone should do what she is requesting. A professional should go into her home and take a look at what's in her cabinets/refridgerator and take a look at what she is feeding her child and help her to help him. If she is ignorant in the ways of nutrition but truly wants to improve her son's health then maybe all she needs is a little education to get her son on the path to weight loss and better health.

Now if someone DOES go in and help her and at a later date it is found that she is not following through and the boy is still morbidly obese well then...yeah, definately take him away from her...
 
I have to believe there is something medically wrong here. To have a child get so overweight makes me think there is something gone haywire in his body. Although who feeds their kid soda for breakfast? Even diet, bleh.
 
I don't agree with taking children away from their parents and shuttling them into a foster care system, unless there is a real intent from the parent to harm the child, like beating him or worse. That is just far too traumatic for a child.

He needs to go to a doctor and get some tests, and Social Services should send a nutritionist to the house with weekly visits to monitor.
 
I think the mom just doesn't know any better. She appears to be overweight herself. She was probably raised eating the same kind of crap she is giving her son. She said she doesn't feed him cookies or whatever and probably thinks that should be enough to solve the problem. I think she really has no idea what a healthy diet is. :(

I did consider that the child has a medical issue and he should definately be checked for one but judging from what she feeds him, if he DOES have a medical problem then she is only compounding the problem.:eek:

Poor kid!:(
 
The first step should definately be MEDICAL intervention. Most of very young obese children do have disorders that lead to obesity. If there is no medical problem then the next step is PSYCHOLOGIAL intervention. These children sometimes use food as a comfort for very distressing home / life situations. Most healthy children will eat until they are full. Not eat for flavor or cravings. (That's reserved for us PMS and menopausal WOMEN.) HA HA

I feel for the child as well as the mother. It's very sad
elliemom
 
Education. Education. Education. It's probably hard for a crowd like us to understand just how clueless the American public is about good nutrition. We look at that list and think "Four eggs? Vienna sausages? Diet coke? Is she kidding?" But for many if it says diet on the can it must mean it's a good choice. And the Vienna sausage can probably has some ridiculous health claim like "Reduced fat!" or "Reduced sodium!". I'm sure she truly believes she's feeding him healthy foods.
I just finished reading Michael Pollan's "In Defense of Food" and it is a real eye opener about the consequences of the food policies of our government. The entire food industry is geared toward pushing highly processed foods with questionable health clams on us. This mother seems to really want some help. I just hope she can find it. She could start with a trip to the library where she could find some books on nutrition.
And if any of you are weird like me and find the politics of food to be totally fascinating here's a link to a twelve, yes twelve, page article by Mr Pollan that appeared in the NYT a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/6byrvv
Happy reading! :D
 
Education. Education. Education. It's probably hard for a crowd like us to understand just how clueless the American public is about good nutrition. We look at that list and think "Four eggs? Vienna sausages? Diet coke? Is she kidding?" But for many if it says diet on the can it must mean it's a good choice. And the Vienna sausage can probably has some ridiculous health claim like "Reduced fat!" or "Reduced sodium!". I'm sure she truly believes she's feeding him healthy foods.
I just finished reading Michael Pollan's "In Defense of Food" and it is a real eye opener about the consequences of the food policies of our government. The entire food industry is geared toward pushing highly processed foods with questionable health clams on us. This mother seems to really want some help. I just hope she can find it. She could start with a trip to the library where she could find some books on nutrition.
And if any of you are weird like me and find the politics of food to be totally fascinating here's a link to a twelve, yes twelve, page article by Mr Pollan that appeared in the NYT a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/6byrvv
Happy reading! :D


I have that book in my shopping cart on Amazon. I think I'll have to get it.
 
Michael Pollan's book (and the article) are very enlightening. Another along the same theme is Marion Nestle's "Food Politics" (a few years older, so I found it at the library)(her website has lots of good info and links too). It's actually shocking how much the government/politicians/lobbyists can affect an entire nation's food supply and education (both in a bad way). Subsidies are provided to major industries such as dairy, meat, and corn, while farmers that concentrate on organic methods, fruits & vegetables, etc don't get the same benefit (perhaps they don't have the lobbyists in DC - whispering (or shouting) in the politicians-who-want-votes ears). Even worse than the financial and supply effects (to me) are the ways that these "industries of influence" can totally skew the government-provided recommendations, such as the Dietary Guidelines (published every 5 years), and even such basics as the food "pyramid" (which used to be a square) that is TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS! (One or both of the books mentioned cover the sad history). Nutritionists contribute valuable, up-to-date information, but by the time the "influencers" are done with it (erasing or manipulating anything that might hurt the image of their protected industries), it is worse than giving no guidelines at all...it confuses people of all ages, and often convinces them that unhealthy foods (or amounts) are in fact ok.

So is it the individual's responsibility to maintain proper weight/health? Or the government's? Here is a link to one article showing both sides: http://www.foodpolitics.com/pdf/areyouresponsible.pdf

Anyway, the heavy 7 yr old is an extreme example, but what's more alarming is how many children (and adults) are not far behind, but are NOT getting attention because it is quickly becoming the norm...as it becomes more prevalent people just accept it, regardless of the clear longterm health consequences (and associated costs). Some of them don't know better, because they never learned, or were deliberately misinformed (by food companies, AND the government)...others DO know at least the general idea of what is good for them (exercise more, eat healthy, whole food/not in excess, etc) but choose NOT to follow that path (either blatantly, or more commonly by not making enough effort to change, allowing excuses to justify their inaction). And certainly these people are not helped by the profusion of techo-foodlike-products that appear to offer convenience, time savings, and even boast absurd "health" claims to market them.
Certainly almost no one wants (or needs) to eat perfectly all them time...there is room for an occasional small techo-treat or high sat-fat indulgence without incurring guilt for someone maintaining a mostly healthy lifestyle. (And for the few that do it without the treats AND not feel deprived/unhappy, that's terrific)(My happiness factor increases exponentially with good, dark chocolate, so I'm not in that category!).

I agree with the posters that suggested education and help for that family. As for those that do have the knowledge, and deliberately or passively don't use it...I'm not sure anyone knows how to improve that situation overall. Per the NY Times article, the government could redirect its resources to help instead of hurt, or at least stay out of it. On a much smaller level, those who have found a way to live healthfully can probably help the most by sharing their experiences with others and encouraging them (like a lot of people do on these forums). It may (or may not) convert the entire nation or planet, but each improved life is a success in itself, and could touch many more.
 

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