WW vs. Cathe's nutrition

Miss Lee said:
I haven't even gotten my books yet and already I'm planning my cheat meals. :p :rolleyes:
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When I first began PN, I couldn't cheat. I'm serious. I had zero cravings. I bought some chocolate covered almonds for a cheat and couldn't eat more than a few.
It's amazing how whole foods change how you feel and kill the cravings.
Oh, your grocery basket will be filled with the most beautiful colors from all the fruit and veggies. Nothing comes in a prettier package than what nature provides.
 
fit44 said:
Why thank you very much Michelle:D I can totally understand where you're coming from in regards to DH! Mine is the same way. Men are such characters! LOL

I was kind of sad to find out that the new PN program doesn't come with DVD's. I learned to make these egg white omelets from JB in the kitchen. You can view it online, but I really like my dvd's!

JB recommends Genuine Health O3megas
http://shop.genuinehealth.com/ProductList.aspx?CategoryID=66

I use his brand and Flameout from T-nation, which is a fish and cla combination. I also use his Metabolic Drive Protein powder. I love the chocolate and strawberry flavors.

I like that he is not a supplement pusher. He recommends fish oil, greens+, protein powder. I'm not popping supplements all day long- I hate that!


The great thing about PN is that he gives you a one size fits all type of program, and then guides you on how to individualize it for yourself. You don't have to be perfect all the time.
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I agree, Cynthia! I haven't yet tried Flamout or Metabolic Drive. In your opinion, are they worth the money? Which site do you order them from, and is it quick for delivery? Thanks!

Carol
:)
 
Miss Lee said:
I haven't even gotten my books yet and already I'm planning my cheat meals. :p :rolleyes:

ETA thanks Cynthia! Boy, I sure would love to have the DVD's. I'm going to check out the videos, and I'll look at the fish oil, too.

Carol and Cynthia, I'll probably have more questions once I get my books. I'll try not to annoy you -- lol!!
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It's never an annoyance!! :) BTW ... you might want to not plan those 10% meals. There are a lot of people on there who haven't had success because they get so caught up on the "cheat" meals, they miss the whole point. I don't plan mine at all. I use them only when I'm stuck eating out and haven't planned in advance (I take meals with me everywhere now!!), or when something special comes up and I have to step outside the PN guidelines for a little bit. So far in nine weeks, I've only had two non-PN meals. I simply won't allow myself to "cheat" on purpose. And, I've had steady and really great results because of that. I know myself too well from past experiences. If I cheat on purpose, I won't stop there. It's like an addiction. I can't feed it or it takes over.

Carol
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I think WW works for many people because it allows people to enjoy certain foods on a limited basis. I for the life of me do not understand why sweets are considered so terrible (if they are eaten in moderation--some people can't handle the moderation part I realize). I have seen many a supposed "clean" recipe from weight training and clean eating magazines that are so loaded with sodium it's amazing, but a lorna doone cookie is strictly verboten. I don't get it. I hate to see a whole generation of fitness buffs who end up with failing kidneys and sour pusses because they ate salty "clean" diets and passed on every sliver of key lime pie that came their way :eek:;)
 
Thanks for the details, ladies. It seems very reasonable. I do the heavy duty exercise and I would love to be lean enough to see the results. I think I will give it a try.
 
nspire said:
My question is: Are there any of you currently on WW? If so how do you like it? Would you consider to making the switch to Cathe? Cathe's nutrition site seems a little cheaper,but with the newness I'm not sure if it's worth it right now. Any suggestions
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I cancelled my WW online membership and switched to Cathe's program and am VERY happy I did so. I'm not knocking the WW program -- I think it's a solid program that works if you follow it. I appreciate the fact that it is more forgiving than other diets which impose restrictions. You can still have your treats, but you quickly learn which foods are going to waste your points. However, as a flex plan user, I found myself avoiding things like bananas because they were high in points. In situations like that, the point distribution didn't always make sense, IMO. But one of the strengths of WW, as I mentioned on another thread, is that it considers your workout and adjusts your points accordingly.

While Cathe's program doesn't do the latter, I still prefer the new software over WW. They are quite similar in their ease of use, but what I like is that I'm not hung up on counting points, and I'm getting valuable feedback on my choices that I wasn't getting before. On WW, I did feel hungry quite a bit. Not so with this program. I sometimes have trouble eating everything I've planned. I feel full, I have energy, and the scale is starting to move in the right direction. And yeah, it's cheaper! :)
 
A WW'er fan here!

I lost 95 lbs on WW'ers (the point system) and continue to follow the program (counting points and journaling) 6 years later! It is a lifetime style of eating for me now. I will always have food *issues* (unless I have a lobotomy), so I will always need to journal and watch my food.

I majorly do the Flex Program (counting points, that allow "unclean" foods), but occasionally , I'll do a few weeks or a few months of "Core" , which is CLEAN eating. I like the balance between both.

It's pretty obvious that you can 'work the system' and eat poor choice foods to use your points up, but it's pretty obvious, and you're not going to lose weight. WW'ers does have a baseline for what you should eat as well... so many veggies, fruits, proteins and carbs. It's not JUST about counting points.

I did the "At Home" program, ordered all the materials needed, and used online stuff to supplement. I never did meetings....

Just another Point of View!!

:)
 
Cynthia,

What are examples of you 4 cheat snacks, or what do you consider a cheat meal? I know one thing, that omlete looked good.
 
nspire said:
Cynthia,

What are examples of you 4 cheat snacks, or what do you consider a cheat meal? I know one thing, that omlete looked good.
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Cheat snacks are few pieces of candy(love sour gummies), or a few cookies,or a piece of cake.
Cheat meal would be a full mexican dinner out with DH:)
I'm not going to lie. When I'm cutting for my swimsuit, I cut the sweets out completely.

The omlettes are a wonderful breakfast! I wake up hungry. If I'm doing morning cardio, I'll switch my omlette for Fage yogurt. I've made omlettes for dinner!
Believe it or not....that plate of food is less than 300 calories. I feel satisfied with the good food. Cheat foods leave me looking for more.
 
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Cynthia and Carol

Thanks for so much info about PN. I think I just might try this out. It really looks appealing to me and doable.
I"ve been kicking it around for some time, but feel pretty pumped about PN.

Cynthia, man that omelet looks soooo good "MMMM:D

Chrissy
 
Muscle Car said:
Thanks for so much info about PN. I think I just might try this out. It really looks appealing to me and doable.
I"ve been kicking it around for some time, but feel pretty pumped about PN.

Cynthia, man that omelet looks soooo good "MMMM:D

Chrissy
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It's VERY doable, and that's why I love it so much. No counting, no fretting, no fuss, no muss ... I know how many ounces of chicken, lean beef or fish to eat in order to get my 20 to 30 grams of protein each meal, and I can read the label for things like tuna in water and eggs, so that part is a snap. Then there's lowfat cottage cheese, nonfat plain yogurt, or string cheese - my other protein favorites!! As for the veggies, I can eyeball 1 or 2 cups quite easily to get those servings in, which is not a problem for me because I usually eat more than 2 to 3 servings anyway. Good fats is easy enough - I already knew what those were. The only reason I keep track of calories, fat and protein any more is because I'm working on getting more than 40% protein per day. It seems to be helping a great deal with muscle definition ... and that certainly is no surprise! :) :) It's just such a "normal" thing for me to do now - eat this way every two to three hours. I take my fish oil capsules, I drink water and green tea, and that's all there is to it. It's easy. It's simple. I cook my food twice a week, put portions into Ziploc containers, and I just grab and go for work each day. I have a large Coleman insulated cooler that I carry with me. Everything for the day stays fresh and cold, including my water.

And when I get bored with my own recipes, the program includes a cookbook with literally hundreds of PN-compliant recipes. It'll take me years to try them all.

Carol
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Carol,

Do you use the Greens+?
I put greens in my protein shakes so I'm PN compliant, but I switched my greens. I was worried about some of the herbal ingredients. I take BCP to control my peri-menopause problems and a few of the herbal ingredient is questionable with BCP.

Anyway, I switched to Super Food
http://www.t-nation.com/productInfo.do?id=1900223
 
I was just wondering, is PN good vegetarians. Do they give your recipes and suggestions for proteins, etc.

I do eat fish on occasion but husband does not eat fish.

Thanks
 
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