what is a chapter in the dvd

tytbody

Cathlete
I am reading the book/catalog and it says there are over 5 chapters in the intensity series. it says well over 1500 chapters.

what does that mean and how does it work?


Peace
~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion:p :+
 
A chapter in a DVD is like a chapter in a book, it starts in a certain place and then ends in a certain place. You may want to check out your DVD player as to see how it handles chapters, the cheap ones are horrible at handling, more or less they don't. The average cost ones, allow you to simply push a button and go to that chapter in the workout, or go back a chapter and repeat it again. And the more expensive ones, you can simply tell it you waht to see chapter 1, 2, 3 , 10, 33, and 62 and it will just play those chapters.

Hope that helps,

Kit
 
so when it comes up I see the main menue, it will show me say 3 tops, intro, upper body, lower body. those are condisdered chapters?


Peace
~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
No, that's the main menu items kind of like different sections. Chapters are 5 minutes or less. The way Cathe has her videos laid out, well some of them you nearly have a different chapter for each exercise. You may want to check out her pages that list her DVDs you'll be able to see each chapter and what it includes.

Like Terminator

http://www.cathe.com/Terminator_Chapters.htm

At the bottom it list each chapter and depdning on you DVD player you should be able to switch to it by a push of a button or even tell it to start there, and do the the next one, chapters just are listed by number, so if it says Lower body, that's usually a section not a chapter. I hope that helps,

Kit
 
OMG. What the heck?? I guess I have no chaptered DVD's yet. Wow. laurd have mercy. I Chapters. I'm just shaking my head. I don't know if I have chapters on my DVD. Will have to check that.

Dang, chapters. now how do you use them, kinda like you make your own sequence instead of following her's?

Will it be listed in the DVD player how to program chapters?


Peace
~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
Yes, your DVD player if it does it, will have some instructions on how to program chapters. If it doesn't do it, it won't meantion it. But yes you basically make your own workout or sequence. It's great for when your short on time want to hit about five exercises for certain muscles and then dash off to work or where ever. Or if your bored and need to mix things up, you can set them any way you want, you can do the last chapter first, and then whatever one you want next etc.

Chapters will not show up on you DVD menu screen, so if your looking for that, you won't see it on the menu screen. I forgot to mention that earlier.

But if you DVD handels chapters they usually have a special fast forward button and that's how you progress threw them. Like on my Dvd controler, I have fast forward which works like the fast forward on a tape player and then I have chapter forward and back, the buttons look a lot like the FF and rewind, just there is a second set and they are a different color.

But do get your you DVD book and see what it has to say about chapters, you may have features you never even realize existed. I really love to be able to program different chapters and make a workout that is just for me. Chaptering is why made the DVD player such a awesome item not only did it just use a small round disk, you could jump to different parts of about any DVD, with a few click of a button (this would be using chapters). Yes your DVDs have chapters, well any of Cathe's do anyway, they may not all be laid out like Terminator, but it sure beats fast forwarding for 10 minutes, to find a certain exercise. A couple clicks and FF for about 8 seconds and your there.

Good luck,

Kit
 
Hey Kit,

Not being big into gagets. Do you think it'sthe same as *marking the scenes) ??? I got my book out and it does something funky.

it says:

Marker:1: 00:27:54
Marker 2: 01:16:25


is that it? ?????



Peace
~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
Yeah it could be, I haven't heard of it called that before but instructions tend to change from DVD because of copy right stuff. So some just change the name and call it good while others will actually rewrite the whole instruction so they can call it theirs.

Anyway does the book instruct to mark the secens for play back at a later time?

On my DVD player, I have a Disc menu option and when I go into that, I can click on the word chapters when I do, it will list how many chapters the DVD i just put in has. And then I have an option menu, and it has cahpter player and I click on that, and then It has a number line from 1 to the total number of chapters on the DVD. And all I do is run the select arrow keys up and down until I reach the chapter I want to play first, select it, It goes into spot one, and then find the chapter for sport 2 and so on until I decide it's enough or I do the whole DVD that way.

Your marker thing does sound simular though with chapters you don't usually select time, you have numbers 1, 2, 3 etc Just like chapters in the book, they are numbered.

So I'm not sure if your cutting and editing the scenes or just playing them back for a later date. If it's playing back for a later date, they you can use that for your workout, if it's cutting and editing, the DVD will play up to Maker 1and then skip the movie, until it reaches marker 2 and then start playing again. As I know on a lot of DVD player you can cut out certain scense, so the kiddies don't see things that they shouldn't. And they still can watch the movie, just you have the control of editing out the hot parts, when they are around and you can simply change it back when they go to bed.

All I can say is try it and see what it does, if it only plays that part back you know you found something you can design your own workout with, if it skips that part, it looks like you get to keep looking.

You may even want to start back where it lists all the buttons for your DVD controler and see if it says anything about chapter fast forward or rewind, and also you may want to look up disc play and forwarding/rewinding this may tell you about chapters. This is when I really wish they'd make all the DVD players the same, with the same instructions, they I could simply tell you to click on this and go here, and click on that, and you're all set.

Good luck,

Kit
 
Hey Kit

It would have been nice to know things about chapters even before I bught the DVD. I had no clue they did things like this. I just thought it was a player like the regular VHS. So.. I was not going to spend a lot of money on a DVD player. Just wanted something to view the darn things in.

I also wonder, are all her DVD's chaptered? Since I have two and neither of them has come up with a menue to Chapter. I guess that's in the big boy section.

Sounds like something that will take me, not a controller yahoo person, hours to figure out.

When I have to go to work, I don't take on things that will take time because I get frustrated looking at the clock to see how much time i have befor I finish the project. So.. I will be back on it later this week. I'll email you incase you do not subscribe to this thread so maybe I can tell you how I"m doing.

~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
Almost all DVDs are chapter if they have been produced after late 2002 - 2003, and there are a lot before that, that are chaptered too, just in 2003 it became a standard. Make sure you check your exercise DVDs, some movies are not chaptered, especially before 2003, but the DVD I bought back in 2000 are chaptered as I use them a lot, to mix things up or show to clients, and there is nothing worse then making someone sit there for 2 or 3 minutes while you fast forward the normal way, so I just fast forward through the chapters and I'm there in less then 30 seconds as it jumped over every 5 minutes so I can go through an hours worth of video very quickly.

I always tell my clients always do research before you buy something. You'll at least won't get riped off, by buying something really cheap that doesn't do anything nor will you be taken for everything you got by buying something that does a thousand features you'll never use. And you'll know what is standard and see what it can do and see what you really need or don't need. As the cheapest doesn't mean it's a good deal, it just means it has a low price, and the most expensive doesn't mean it's the best either, it just means there is a high price and it's your job to figure out if it's because it's good, or because there is a well known name on it.

As I'm just amazed that your DVD player doesn't use chapters if it relatively new. The DVD I bought 5 years ago uses chapters as well as the little cheap combo TV DVD, VCR I bought for my workout room, last year. The only way to fast forward on that one is to use chapters as it doesn't have any other type of forwarding or rewinding. Nor does it have programable chapters, but even it will show Ch1 and then Ch2 when I'm fast forwarding letting me know what chapter I'm in, so I can stop, when I get to where I want. Even the one I bought for work, that died after 6 months of use, still chaptered even though the warenty was about as good as having a hand full of dirt. And that had actually been made by a well known company they just decided that if it broke after 3 months you get to go buy a new one, as they wouldn't fix it, without costing you more then a brand new DVD player.

Also if you are just looking at the main menu, you know the one that when you put the DVD disc in and it says Upper body, Lower body etc and you can run up and down and select it. You will not see anything mentioned about chapters there. To see a chapter menu it is a function of your DVD player, a chapter menu is not build into most DVD disc. But the player will read the disc, you push a few buttons and it should be displayed if you have a DVD that can program chapters.

If you don't have a dvd player that has programable chapter feature, you still should be able to fast forward or rewind to a certain chapter. On standard DVDs these are 5 minute intervals on Cathe's special chaptered DVDs, she had them specially made so they move from exercise to exercise for us. Which was really awesome, as she was one of the first Video Trainers to do that, and still one of the very few who do that. But even in my little cheapo combo tv, dvd, vCR player, I still can fast forward threw the chapters on the DVD, it's the only way I can fast forward, as that's the only feature that DVD player has, but it still displays a CC 1, CC 2, and so on when I push the button and bump up 5 minutes into the new chapter, so I know where to stop for the chapter I want.

One of the things to try is to comb threw your book and actually read page by page. As a lot of times, they don't mention things where you think they should. Another thing to do is go to the company that build your DVDs website, they usually have FAQs and it may tell you how to access chapters. Or of course the fastest way is to grab one of your friends that understand electrionics invite them over hand them the book tell them you want to learn how to move from chapter to chapter, and have them show you. As well as ask them if you DVD player had programable chapters. As there might be setting you have to turn on see chapters on you DVD player, I know some of the older ones use to do that because chapters weren't the standard but they knew they would be soon so they gave the buyer the option of turning them on or keeping them off.

And yes I really wish a lot more of the public was informed that DVD players are not VCRs. They do a whole lot more things, besides use disc that take up 1/10 of the space that VHS do. And yeah my friends as well as my parents are really not into eletronics, I end up going over to their house every spring and fall and setting the clock on all their electronics because they can't figure out how. So yes I know where your coming from, you wanted to to play DVDs and at the time didn't know about any other feature. But do, really read the book or go to the companies website and look for help with that model of DVD player, I'm sure if yours does it, you will find it, either in the book or the website under frequently asked questions (FAQ).


Good luck,

Kit
 
hola,
Lunacat said some are chaptered, some aren't. I do have chapters, as I just bought this less than 3 weeks ago, Toshiba. I found something else in the book, says *Locating a chapter or track.* Will be getting a new DVD later this week so will see how to work the chapters. Stretch Max does not have it. If it does, let me know cause I did play with it a sec to find chapters.

maybe if there are only 3 sections to this small one, no chaps???

You sure are into this DVD player. Thank you for the help. Things like this take time if your not used to programing, of which, The DVD and Cathe are new to me within the last 2 weeks. I admit my ignorance but will gain experience as I move along.


~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
Your DVD remote should have a button to skip to the next chapter and one to go back to previous chapters (or to the beginning of the current chapter). It's like the "forward/back" or "up/down" buttons on a CD player (chapters on a DVD are like tracks on a CD: very similar technology).

I'm pretty sure Core Max has chapters within each workout (I don't have it in right now or I'd check it out. But I'm pretty sure I've chaptered back and forth with it). Start playing one of the workouts, then look for a button that has > or >> on the remote. That's usually the "chapter forward" button (though my current remote has >> for fast forward and >>/ (though the line is straight up and down) for chapter forward, labeled "skip/index")

Do you have any other Cathe DVD's? They are all chaptered (some much more thoroughly than others: the earlier DVD's had fewer chapters). It might be easier to play with the chapters on those. Also, any movie DVD also has chapters (called "scenes").

Some DVD players are programmable (my previous one was, but my new one isn't), and the programming function can be accessed through the set-up menu. It's a great way to mix-and-match sections from a workout, or to combine sections from two workouts on one DVD. With the Intensity Series, though, there are SO MANY chapter points that I had to program more than 20 chapters (the limit of my previous machine) to get the workout I wanted.

Was Cathe your motivation for getting a DVD player? She was mine! I got my first DVD player when the PH+ (Power Hour) Dvd came out. It does take a while to learn, but once you get the hang of it, it is SOOO much nicer than video! (Except for the @(*!&$ FBI warnings and stuff that you can't skip over in most DVD's: luckily, SNM DVD's allow us to go right to the menu by pushing the "menu" button and skipping over that initial crap!).
 
And another thing that you might want to try is the Mix & Match menu where instead of going to the chapter menu which just keeps continuing on to the next chapter where as the mix & match you pick a different section and then it comes back to the screen again where you can select your next workout ect, for instance say I want to do Imax 2 but I want to do it in different order like #1 first 3 second and 5 third it will just come back to the Mix and Match menu and you just select what Interval you want to do next, hope I made some kind of sense. I don't know what year Cathe started doing this so I wouldn't know if her early workout has this. Their is so much you can do with the menu Cathe has put into this for us.
 
Right some of Cathe's DVDs have special chapters, while the others, have the standard chapters that are standard since 2003. Which is every 5 minutes, and it can be in the milddle of an exercise or where ever, they aren't special, they just appear every 5 minutes and that's that. Kind of like every 500 pages there is a mark in the book no real reason it's just there, for you to flip over 500 hundred pages and it could be in the middle of a paragraph or it could start a new section. This is actually what I use to fast foward my DVDs, I use the chapter until I get into the chapter I want, then I use normal rewind or fastward until I get the the specific exercise.

As for StretchMax I don't have it yet, but I have a hard time believing that a new DVD like that doesn't at least have the standard chapters. Even Kathy Smith and all those instructors have the 5 minute chapter doesn't mean anything besides a faster way to fast-forward. As you can end up in the middle of an exercise, water break or by pure luck a beginning of a chapter landed right before a certain exercise. I was trying to get you to see if you could find standard chapters, as they are the easiest to find and once you found a way to forward threw them and rewind, you'd have the understanding of chapters so when you got a DVD with special chapters you already knew you can click and get to any exercise you want, and all you had to do was learn how to program your DVD.

As for DVDs I'm into eletronics, I'm an Internet security tech, as well as a troubler shoot for most standard computer problem and I do personal training exercise training on the side. My clients know I'm into computers so they constantly ask me questions like yours, just with them they are here with me and I can just simply grab one of my DVDs and show them and then allow them to play with my DVD player so they understand. I also have two parents who refuse to learn about eletronics so I have to break down the instructions they bought for anything eletronic and then write them out step by step, the ones that they want to use. So I have had a lot of experence with DVDs and most other eletronics because for some reason everyone thinks I should know. And I ended up doing research for them so they understand and then know. I also do a lot of research before I buy any eletronics, I've found out, that you get ripped off a lot a lot of times if you just go for what looks good or you think is a good deal. As a lot of times the cheap one doesn't always have the standard features but a cut down version of those features which is okay sometimes but not all the time especally when it's only $50 more for the full featured one and you get twice as much. And the same is true for the most expensive one, it looks good but it has features you'll never use, or it may not even have a standard feature as there's just a big name on the side and it raised the value of it $100. That happens on about every type of product out there. Especally in computers so that is the reason why I learn so much and watch so close. The last thing I want to do is shell out money to only have a product I can't use or take it back a few months later, and have to go buy another one because the first one lacked some feature I need.


Anyway good luck and feel free to ask questions it's the only way you learn, and since I can't go to your house and look at your instructions it is a bit harder. As manuals are all writen different and use differnt termology at times due to the dumb copy right laws, I believe in copy rights, but when your writing instructions and this product is the same as this one, why not use the same instructions so that people can share what they learned and how to do things? Thats the one area I think copy rights shouldn't be allow so you have good soild instructions without all the termology changed.

Kit
 
>Your DVD remote should have a button to skip to the next
>chapter and one to go back to previous chapters (or to the
>beginning of the current chapter). It's like the
>"forward/back" or "up/down" buttons on a CD player (chapters
>on a DVD are like tracks on a CD: very similar technology).
>

this is my first DVD player. I bought it for one DVD. I did not even care if it played cd's,I figured I had a CD player why worry about that. Now I see these things can be expensive for reasons. but I still did not think I would need those reasons.

now If I had a Cathe that had those things I might have thought more. I know I've not had it a month yet so I can check about the chapters hopefully before the 30 days runs out.

>I'm pretty sure Core Max has chapters within each workout (I

I'm not up to the speed of Core Max yet but I better find out about these chapters before the 30 days.

>Do you have any other Cathe DVD's? They are all chaptered

I just have Beginner Basic/body fusion and stretch max. I will be getting Power Strength this week. I guess it's old so no chapters in there either eh? let me know please?


>(some much more thoroughly than others: the earlier DVD's had
>fewer chapters). It might be easier to play with the chapters
>on those. Also, any movie DVD also has chapters (called
>"scenes").
>

I did see a movie with the scenes in them marked on the back of hte box.

>Some DVD players are programmable (my previous one was, but my
>new one isn't), and the programming function can be accessed
>through the set-up menu. It's a great way to mix-and-match
>sections from a workout, or to combine sections from two
>workouts on one DVD. With the Intensity Series, though, there
>are SO MANY chapter points that I had to program more than 20
>chapters (the limit of my previous machine) to get the workout
>I wanted.
>
>Was Cathe your motivation for getting a DVD player?

No, she was not my motivation for the DVD. But I sure hope I have a DVD as powerful as she is. :) lol
 
>Right some of Cathe's DVDs have special chapters, while the
>others, have the standard chapters that are standard since
>2003. Which is every 5 minutes, and it can be in the milddle
>of an exercise or where ever, they aren't special, they just
>appear every 5 minutes and that's that.

I'm very confused by this answer. What workouts are you refering to? I've never found this to be the case. If you chapter though any of her strength workouts, there are chapter points at the set-up for an exercise, and then again at the begining of an exercise, for example. (The Intensity Series had even more chapters, but they were at logical points. The Hardcore series puts the chapter points right before the first rep, which is a bit too "close" for my tastes and needs, but it is consistent chaptering thoughout. There's definitely no 'every 5 minutes" chaptering about it (and what standard are you refering to? Certainly not movies, which are chaptered at the beginning of a scene. Not other workouts, which, if they are chaptered at all (Goodtimes usually doesn't chapter), it is at a logical point in the workout, for the most part.

Tytbody: all of Cathe's DVD's are chaptered, it's just that in some of the earlier workouts, there are fewer chapters, and some "logical" chapter points are missing (Circuit Max comes to mind: it would have been nice if there were chapter points at both teh begginin of each step segment, and teh beginnnig of each weight segment, but they are included in the same chapter).
 
tytbody,
the person was trying to explain to you how chaptering worked yes some DVD players do play cds, but chapters work just like click to the next song on your cd player, they are number and it shows you what track your on. Your DVD player numbers them and then shows you what chapter your on.

And yes stretch max does have *standard chapters* I called a friend and asked since this is a big topic, she put it in her DVD and yep you can forward to any chapter you like. Also Stretch Max wasn't released all that long ago, so there is no way it would have 2002 standard or before.

Kathyrn,

The workouts that have special chaptering are Temerinator for one, KPC + LG DVD, and if you'd like to look at more that have special chaptering please check out Cathe's site and take a look at the DVD descriptions. But take a look at the two I listed for, so you know what I'm talking about.

Kit
 
Back again. Just got off of work.

Okay. when you say *standard Chapters* What does that mean? i.e. there are different kind of chapters?

when someone mentioned scenes on a DVD, yes I would call these different *scenes* because there are no * numbers. i.e. 01-03 as a *standard Chapter*


Yes, it is sectioned off, Yes, I can do Stretch one. it stops. Yes I can do stretch 2 it stops.

yes, I can choose Stretch 2 from the menue. But a chapter, ah ah.. It would be nice if I could chat with someone and they could see exactly what I am saying.

My Basic Does have Chapters, I found that menue. There are no numbers next to each section though. Just lets you highlight it and it goes to that spot.

Book deosn't even say it can be *programmed to go to certain ones.

I think what this one does is *mark* them.

It says, Press Marker during playback
2. Select the blank Marker using up arrow or down arrow, Then press Enter at the desired scene.
3. Press Marker to remove this display.

So I guess you can make marks somewhere and it goes back to those spots you *marked* as it sounds like you can do from the words, Chapter in another DVD manufacture. Looks like it only holds 3 points. Says, the unit stores the points taht you want to watch again up to 3 points. You can resume playback from each scene.

Did this help any in what I have?

If you have IM. I don't mind chating sometime. you can walk me through it maybe. Since this jargon makes sence to you. I have no man here to read the book for me.

~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
okay. I see them now.

they are not as *defined* in the Pure Strenght DVD as the Newer DVD's I am thinking. I see chapters menue on this one but it sure is not on all of them. They have the sections but it doesn't say chapters.

So, I see them now but, no numbers on it to program them... are there? The words are so dang small it's a wonder you can get to where you want.

I think I'll end up just flipping to what I want because I can't see where you program it.

Thanks for the help on saying the DVD does this.

One more thing... if you take the DVD out, are those chapters in a memory of something so you can do a full 30 of one exercise? Say someone wants to do 3 different chest segments, can you do that? This would be from 3 different dvd's i'm talking.


~~tytbody~~
Working towards Perpetual Motion
 
HI, when I sue the mix & match my dvd players continues on to the next section, it does not go back to the menu. I have a jdc player, any ideas? What part of the manual would pertain to that? Thanks, Karen
 

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