vegan glucosamine

amybajamy

Cathlete
I did a search for glucosmaine and found a post about a vegan version.
Have very many of you had good results from this? I haven't taken glucosamine before, but I want to start because my knees are really starting to hurt ever since I started really getting into step with Cathe. Even my good knee hurts now and my bad knee clicks every time I take a step on the step now. I refuse to stop stepping though now that I've found exercise that I love to do! Also does anyone wear knee braces and do they help? Any help would be appreciated!
Amy
 
I use vegan glucosamine.

I particularly like two products:
Mega flax joint: a flax powder with added joint-health ingredients, including glucosamine.

Vegan Joint Supreme is a capsule (I open them up and put the innards in my morning smoothie) that contains vegan glucosamine, hyaluronic acid (helps lubricate the joints), MSM (beneficial on its own, but also makes whatever it is added to be absorbed more effectively into the body) and Avocado/Soy unsaponifiables (no idea!).

There's also a brand that combines Vegan Glucosamine and CMO (no idea), but it's a tablet, and I prefer vegan capsules that I can open up.

I get these at www.veganessentials.com (a great store, with fast delivery and a good selection of vegan stuff).


Although you say you refuse to do so, I would recommend backing off from step right now. You aren't doing your body any good by continuing to do something that it is telling you is not beneficial to you right now. And taking all the glucosamine in the world won't help if you keep abusing your knees.

Think in the long-term: you want to be healthy and exercising for year to come, right? And not screw that up by doing more damage to your knees, to the point that you won't even be able to walk without pain.

When you get back into it, be careful of torquey moves (like transitions between a move on the side of the step and a move behind the step, that I find Cathe likes to do, and which, if I don't take care in how 'wide" or "far back" I step, can be tricky for the knees. She steps wide/far back enough, but doesn't cue it.).

Also, don't step more than 3 times a week, with a day off in between. Your knees might not even be able to take that much.

I also find that avoiding moves like ricochets and 360-degree moves has helped my knees tremendously.

What I would highly recommend is some kind of rehab/muscle balance workout, like some TLT workouts. They will help strengthen the important stabilizer muscles, and perhaps help you reduce the knee pain. Doing some "quad sets" may help : lie on floor with one leg bent, one leg straight, flex the quad of the straight leg--feeling the muscle on the inside of the knee to make sure it's engaged--and keeping the flex as you raise the leg about 6 inches, hold, then lower slowly. These are often used in knee rehab when there are tracking problems (often due to muscle imbalance).

Knee braces may help, but they only treat the symptom, and don't adress the cause (perhaps muscle imbalance, perhaps tracking problems).
 
Thank you so much for the reply! I actually was planning on laying off step for a while (I should have clarified that), but I don't want to give up on it. The torquey moves don't really bother me so I was going to do Kick Max and Cardio Kicks for my cardio. It's the stepping onto the step, lunges and squats that are killing me. I'm even just using a 4" step and they still hurt. It's depressing because the DR told me to increase my quad strength to help my kneecaps track better and so when I first started to do squats and lunges they helped, but since increasing the intensity with step I've gone backwards.

I will try the "quad sets" that you mentioned. I was thinking of going to a DR again to maybe get some PT.

As far as the vegan glucosamine, did you have any problems before that it has helped, or are you doing a maintenance type thing?

I take flaxseed oil everyday, that would be the same thing as the flax powder wouldn't it?

Thanks again for your response!
Amy
 
>As far as the vegan glucosamine, did you have any problems
>before that it has helped, or are you doing a maintenance type
>thing?

I've had bouts of patellofemoral pain syndrome for years (since I thought it was a great idea back in 1977 to take up jogging, 4 miles a day, up and down cement-sidewalked hills, with cheap shoes---that lasted about a week!). I've got through PT (which is where I got the quad sets) but they did more harm than good, IMO, when the head gut put me on a diagnostic machine that did something nasty. Since then, I've been doing my own home PT and finding ways to get muscle balance and avoid future problems.

>I take flaxseed oil everyday, that would be the same thing as
>the flax powder wouldn't it?
I personally prefer ground flax over the oil, because I prefer whole foods, the way nature made 'em, with everything in that was there from the beginning (with flax, that's the fiber, and often the lignans, that can be missing in oils).

Though grinding your own seeds is better than getting the "' flax meal," which is the flax seed with the oil removed. Something I just discovered (the 'Mega flax joint" contains whole ground flax seeds).
 
Kathryn, thanks for the glucosamine link. I take glucosamine, really helps my knees and degenerative arthritis in neck. I'm going to give the veggie versions a try.
 

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