To all the P90X folks THANKS but does this mean no cathe for 90 days :(

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robyn6002

Cathlete
First thanks SO MUCH to those of you who recommended it. It took me a Long to time to get it (actually got it for my DS) and I'm loving it (as is he).

It takes A LOT out of me - in a GOOD way. I'm finding I'm needing to up my calories and protein. .

Reading old threads it looks like your strength and muscle gains were great :)

Did most of you do the whole rotation?

Did you have to say goodbye to Cathe for 90 days :(

Thanks again for the recommendations :)
 
No, I will never say Goodbye!! Not ever!!

I did GS Legs on Tuesday.

I also (eventually) ended up scrapping Legs & Back X and instead did the leg portion of HSTA but after each leg segment, did the pull-ups that Tony did in Legs & Back X. That way, I received my Cathe fix, I received a much better leg workout and still received the perks of the pull-ups.

The other thing I did...I did all Cathe during Tony's "recovery weeks".
 
Robyn,

When I did my first P90X rotation I was ravenous!! I ate like a horse throughout. :) It took a lot out of me too, I felt like, WOW! what is this I've gotten into?! But my strength gains have been AMAZING. ( Just as an example, I've never been able to do much with my shoulders, when I started P90X in January I could barely do 12# presses, now I can do shoulder presses with 20#. ) The only thing I didn't do regulary in the rotation was the yoga, I don't like yoga. I did extra cardio instead, usually Cathe.

It's such a great program. Good luck with it, and keep us posted on your results!!

Sparrow

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ‘Wow - what a ride!’ — Peter Sage
 
Thanks Sparrow - Wow 12 to 20 lb... that's amazing improvemetn!

So it sounds like you played it by ear of what you needed eg. more cardio. I think perhaps I'll go through the whole routine for 1 week and see how I feel.

Did you do it for the full 90 days.

Hi Sarah - Thanks. Sounds like you also tried it and saw what you needed and adjusted as needed. That sounds great. Your pics look great so I assume you did it for the full 90 days.

Did you follow the diet. I'm a bit leary of the low carb phase. Would love to hear what you did.

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So it sounds like I should do before and after pics? See how it works and tweak if need be (to get that cathe fix!)
This week I'm just trying it out and would rate Kempo, Core Synergistics, Shoulders and Arms as all (A+)

Did you have specific goals? I'm at a point where the superficial isn't that important but I think it's really just to keep at it and to get in the best shape ever with a DD a jr in college and DS a sr in HS!

Thanks
 
I also alternated IMax 2 and 3 with Plyo X and KPC or a mishmosh for the Kenpo X. I figured it was the type of workout that was important, not the actual content. I actually like Legs and Back, but I did sub GS Legs for weeks 5-8.

And during the recovery weeks I did Core Synergistics, but I subbed Cathe for the rest.
 
If you can't give up Cathe for 90 days (though sometimes, I find a break is nice!), you can easily substitute one of her lower body workouts for Legs and Back, an Imax for Plyo X, and a kickboxing workout (or step if you prefer) for Kenpo X.

I wouldn't sub the other weight workout or Core Synergistics, because they are more effective than Cathe, IMO.

I would sometimes do KPC instead of Kenpo X, but otherwise stuck with P90X (though if I did the whole rotation again, I'd alterate between a Cathe lower body and Legs and Back---since L&B is repeated so much throughout the rotation, and it didn't give ME enough booty work).
 
> I think perhaps I'll go through the whole
>routine for 1 week and see how I feel.

Definitely don't make any changes until after the first week, so you can judge whether they are necessary. I found that week 1 was the toughest (I needed a lot more naps!).
 
I followed the diet for a short while but not long. I, personally, cannot part with carbs! I ran for cardio while doing the program so it was even more reason my body needed the carbs. I am just careful about the carbs I consume...i.e.whole grains versus twinkies, fruit instead of gummy bears, the less processed, the better, you know the drill.

Do take pictures before and after each phase. It's the best way to see your progress, IMO, especially since the program is geared around putting some muscle on. Also, it may help to keep you on track if you know you have a photo shoot coming up in a matter of weeks!:p
 
Thanks Sarah. Yes I don't see how I could do it without the carbs. Ok! My DD just took picss. Funny how you want to NOT look good!
You're results from P90x are amazing. I'm not sure what my goals are I just want to feel really excited about my WO and feel energized good about myself for accomplishing something pretty daunting. I guess the how I look isn't so important, but it would be a very nice side effect.

Good point, Katherine, maybe a break is great. I'll watch how it goes for the lower body (my focus area) and if need be I can sub it L&G. I'm not one to stick to a rotation so we shall see.

I dabbled with P90x this week though you don't really DABBLE with P90x! Kempo, Core synergeticx, shoulder and arms. I think I'll do one tonight, Turbo Jam Friday/Saturday and start!

Thanks Christine - based on my first time with Core synergetics, I'll keep that in.

Again thanks so much! So thanksgiving it will be complete!
 
Good luck Robyn! Let us know how it goes! I think P90X will change your idea of rotations. I never really followed one until that one.
 
Thanks Christine! Glad to hear you were that way too.

I will post pics in November! I just joined the beachbody forum but think I'll still post with you folks too.

Sorry you may have said but when did you do it?
 
> I think P90X will
>change your idea of rotations. I never really followed one
>until that one.

I agree. P90X not only is a great rotation in itself, it teaches you: about the importance of recovery, the importance of variety, an how to plan an effective rotation that is well-balanced and thorough without overdoing too much of any one thing.
 
I'm on the second week of Phase III (so 3 more weeks to go for the full 90 days), and I've done it nearly by the book. I had to sub KPC for the first Kenpo, as my original Kenpo disc was bad (they shipped me out a new one IMMEDIATELY and I was able to use it from the 2nd week on), and when the weather is cooperating I have been subbing a run for Kenpo. Otherwise, however, I'm following the plan as is, including the nutrition aspect.

I thought I'd miss my Cathe, but I haven't at all, as much as I hate to say it. And I'm such a Tony junkie, I don't ever see going back, frankly. After this round is over, I plan to take a little time off from the X to let my body recover (not totally off, of course, but I am going to figure out a functional fitness / cardio rotation for about a month), then I'm going to do another round. I've been doing Cathe for YEARS and I've never seen the gains, both in strength and body composition (i.e., leanness), than I have over these 2.5 months. I'm sure that I'll use Cathe for short rotations between X rotations as "time off" from the demanding training of the X, but.... it's the X for me for the next long while.

m.
 
I'd also add that it's probably worthwhile to stick with the rotation as is for as long as you can. From all the comments here and elsewhere, I was worried about it not having enough cardio, not enough leg work, etc. I've just simply NOT found that to be the case. I can easily go for a 5 mile run, and both my cardio and legs feel GREAT. I've never been able to do this (run when not focusing on running) with any other program, including doing hard core Cathe cardio. And my legs have never been stronger or looked better! The combination of Legs & Back, PlyoX, YogaX and KenpoX gives you a great overall leg workout, at least in my experience (I'm a Classic rotation gal - don't know if you are doing Lean or Classic...).

Give it a whirl, and don't have preconceived notions based on your experience with other programs. This is different. :)

m.
 
I can't wait!! thanks kathryn. Sorry I realize I've spelled your name wrong a bunch of times.

I just joined the website over on beachbody and see a couple of cathe folks.
 
I'm doing a P90X Rotation now. I'm doing the Lean Routine but I switched some workouts and weeks around. I have been doing an extra cardio on the Yoga X day and added my Power Yoga onto my Kenpo X day (Sundays for me). This way I can fit a bit more aerobics in, as I need to lose weight. I have been using whatever yoga DVD I prefer (I have tons) and I don't care for Yoga X. I also subbed some ab workouts for Ab Ripper, as I'm getting too used to it. The other things I did a bit differently: switched the order that I'm doing the weeks in so that my legs get worked more frequently and adding an extra yoga and light cardio workout on the rest day - making it an active recovery day.

I have seen the best results in my shoulder area. I am getting very shapely in the shoulders. I like the look. I have been doing a lot of the pushups and I'm not really supposed to do them, as I have a disc injury in my neck that they aggravate, but I've been putting up with my pain flaring.

I would agree you could sub a Cathe leg workout here or there and eny cardio you wanted to on any given day. I just wouldn't sub out the weight workouts.
 
>I'm such a Tony junkie, I don't ever see
>going back, frankly.

I know what you mean. It's hard to get back to Cathe's strength work once you get 'spoiled' by Tony. I ended up doing some Power Half Hour after P90X and eventually got back into Cathe, but her straight-set workouts just don't do it for me in quite the same way Tony's sequence of exercises do.

I also like most of the Power 90 Masters workouts (except "Core Cardio," which was too 'up and down' for me). Sculpt 5-6 is a total body workout (actually more 'upper body with a bit of lower') that reminded me of why I like Tony's weight workouts so much. The workouts are shorter than P90X, but that makes it possible to do them back-to-back.
 
I'm just finishing my second week in Round 1 classic rotation and, thanks to input from ladies like Kathryn, I've found ways to modify where necessary and start growing w/ P90X.

I must say that the first Tony videos I owned were Power 90's I managed to catch at a garage sale and I was NOT impressed. So much so that I didn't even do them.

It took me until this summer to splurge on P90X after all of the rave reviews at VF and about 3 weeks of talking myself into starting it... thinking I'd miss Cathe and wouldn't like Tony, etc. Well, I find Tony growing on me with every workout and I look forward to what is in store for the next day. I am modifying the leg workout due to a knee rehab and have substituted Stretch X for Yoga X (not enough time in the A.M. on weekdays... I'm already getting up at 4:30 a.m.!) and Cardio X for Plyo X (due to the knee... and I'm keeping Cardio X low) and I am finding it fun!

I'm not hanging up my Cathe's and have, in fact, started to figure out ways to incorporate her when my knee rehab is finished and I've run through the 90 days of P90X!
 
Hi Lorajc and Gibbee: Congrats on the P90x workouts. Mind if I ask you (or any other P90xers) a few questionss

- Are you posting anywhere? I looked on beachbody and didn't find the daily check-ins like on cathe? Personally I LOVE that.

- What's the lean vs. classic. I got the book but didn't see it. Is this the number or reps.

- Did you follow the diets? I'm on the fence about that?

- Did you get the supplements (refresher drink) and bars?

Thanks SO MUCH
 
I'm not posting anywhere but I have been asking questions at Videofitness.com in the general discussion area to see what others do for modifications.

I would check there (do a search), check their check-ins (I'm not in one but there are several in a P90X check-in... I might ask to join soon) and check their combinations,rotations & modificatinos area for ideas on modifications and on incorporating Cathe.

As for classic versus lean, go to this page at Beach Body and scroll to the bottom... on the right hand side is a "P90X calendar" in adobe... it lists the workouts for classic, lean and doubles...

http://www.beachbody.com/shopping/browse/p90xgatewaymain.jsp?ruleID=2050&itemID=63&itemType=GATEWAY

Here's an example of a hybrid P90X / Cathe rotation...
http://forum.videofitness.com/showthread.php?t=78965&highlight=P90X

I have not followed the diet - although I am trying to be more purposeful and aware when eating and aiming for more fruit, veggies and lean meat... difficult for me but I'm working on it. (I'm only finished w/week 2) I don't take the supplements but sometimes the recovery drink sounds inviting. Not sure that it is much different than Tang, but maybe someone else knows??
 
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